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View Poll Results: Macross Frontier - Episode 10 Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 98 | 56.32% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 46 | 26.44% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 20 | 11.49% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 2 | 1.15% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 3 | 1.72% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 2 | 1.15% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 1 | 0.57% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 2 | 1.15% | |
Voters: 174. You may not vote on this poll |
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2008-06-06, 17:21 | Link #141 |
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Well, I was expecting to see Nora and co, or even a SV-51 prop!
But thats ok, I am just happy this episode was quality consistent with the other ones. I have no idea what the hell ever happened to episode 8, that was one weird experience. - Tak (At least I saw Roy's ex!) |
2008-06-06, 17:43 | Link #142 | |
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I think that was the point and hence Ranka's Mao Nome just outshined Miss Macross's Sara Nome comprehensively. |
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2008-06-06, 17:53 | Link #143 |
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The broadcasting time shifted. I cant possible to record to the last minute. Horrible shock. (>_<) new op/ed song is decided. op "Lion" ed "Northancross" from Mayn's official8月6日発売!! 『ライオン』May'n/中島愛 “ライオン” (マクロスF 新OPテーマ) 歌:May'n/中島愛 “ノーザンクロス” (マクロスF 新EDテーマ) 歌:シェリルノーム starring May'n Last edited by Delphin; 2008-06-06 at 18:23. |
2008-06-06, 18:31 | Link #145 | |
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2008-06-06, 19:01 | Link #146 |
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I started out being a fan of RankaxAlto, but damnit they have just consistently fleshed out sheryl's character that I couldn't help but turn traitor...
Ranka just feels too shallow character depth wise and not a complete person...Whereas sheryl always comes off as her own unique being full of vibrant energy. Best way I can phrase it I guess is that Sheryl exhibits more qualities of a woman in love enjoying life, whereas ranka seems to be the silly schoolgirl with a crush... Heres hoping the next episode is the start of a trend for ranka becoming alittle less two dimensional.
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2008-06-06, 19:16 | Link #147 |
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I personally have no doubt in my mind that in the end, we'll see Ranka "winning out" over Sheryl. It just fits the 'vibe' I get from the show thus far and from my understanding of anime plots thus far. I'd bet money on it, if I had money to bet. :P
I think that Ranka's character is not necessarily any less than Sheryls, rather it is simply the fact that they are two VERY different characters at very different stages in their lives. Sheryl is, in her life now, where Ranka -could- be eventually... yet in other says, Sheryl is less mature than Ranka. Right now we see Sheryl being fleshed out a lot- because the character did indeed seem rather shallow. But we are seeing seeds planted for the future development of Ranka as well. It is pretty clear to me that Ranka is the "lead female" here- she will be the key to everything that unfolds from here on out, and in the end I have a feeling some special power or unique past/background will develop with things only she can do. Likely it will be up to Alto to rescue her and bond with her in some unique way, and Sheryl will have to let him go. Or have you guys not seen enough Animes with that exact same kind of plot with similar types of characters to get the same 'feeling' I have on this one? :P I felt from the first episode, and the second, and then on that it was clear Ranka was being set up as the one who would win Alto. If they do anything else, it will be a very sharp break from previous plot trends in most anime and quite a surprise- I welcome it if so, nice to get something 'different'... though I do kind of like Ranka over Sheryl. PS- I think anyone who has seen some of the original Macross series (I didn't see it all- couldn't STAND the old style American dub... ick), but what I saw of it leads me to see a very clear parallel between Ranka's journey from normality to fame with the journey of the lead female in the original. It is, of course, a far deeper and more realistic journey- and I don't know if Ranka will make some of the same poor choices the lead in the original did, or if perhaps Sheryl embodies a bit more of someone who made those choices. Last edited by coroloro; 2008-06-06 at 19:19. Reason: Add a little more depth to comment |
2008-06-06, 19:24 | Link #148 | |
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But anyhow...I keep getting this KOR (Kimagure Orange Road) vibe with Sheryl as Madoka being the "good friend" and pushing and supporting Alto and Ranka when all this time she's been secretly pining her him as well. And for those who are familiar with KOR would know who won out in the end... ....but then again, that's just my take on things and may not necessarily be accurate. I guess the thing that makes Sheryl so attractive is her intense drive and professionalism as others have stated. I LOVE the fact that she doesn't play this damsel in distress. I'm completely sick of females portrayed in such a "needy" light....*shrugs*...perhaps I myself am living vicariously through Sheryl LOL....I just love that she doesn't take crap from anyone. On a rather different note....I've never been into the whole"Moe/Cute" factor so Sheryl is VERY refreshing. It's like Tsundere Candy...hard on the outside and soft on the inside Hahaha! But back on topic, I watched this episode yesterday and found it enlightening. I'm a bit intrigured with Brere at the moment and desire to know more about him...especially that jewel that Leon received...I just immediately thought of Sheryl. I've been a Macross Head since 1982 but I admit there are a lot of details about the universe that I had forgotten...i think it's time for me to review a lot of stuff....LOL, I still have those original Macross clamshells lying around...maybe I should just invest in the DVD version. I too had to rewatch some parts of Macross Zero to prepare for this episode and it was a hoot! Anyhow, this latest installment from Kawamori-san has exceeded my expectations so I'm definitely looking forward to more. Oh well...sorry for spamming this side of the forum with my useless comments....just wanted to comment on how enamored I am with the series at the moment. I just feel that this is such an excellent homage to the original. Perhaps I'll try to be a regular here from now on....the Mai Hime forum is pretty dead right now hence the reason why I haven't visited animesuki as much . --Lone Wolf 一匹狼 =================== Lone Wolf's blog of NatShiz http://ippikiookami.squarespace.com |
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2008-06-06, 19:26 | Link #149 | |
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Also, Brera made me think of Miyu during that last bit, with the way he's... weaponized. I suspect that Mao Nome may indeed have either had a descendant, in the form of Ranka or Sheryl (or both, even - as a mother in her forties, or as a grandmother)... or, like someone else suggested, had some other involvement with Ranka and the 117th Fleet, given that she had early contact with the Protoculture artifacts. Spoiler:
And for all you pairing folks, I'm tempted to root for MikhailxAlto, KleinxAlto, or BobbyxAlto (this latter one has always admired Alto, charged in for the rescue with the cry of 'I'm coming to save you, Princess!' in episode 7, and may have been referring to Alto during that 'I'll kill you if you hurt Ranka' speech in episode 9), just to piss y'all off. As far as I recall, Kawamori's stated he doesn't want the stories to be exact copies, which means that Sheryl and Alto may not be the 'end couple', just as Ranka and Alto may not be one. Or there may not even BE a couple, but just a mutual admiration society... there's certainly precedent for it, as Misa and Minmay made their peace and became good friends as well, enough so that all of them went off together in Megaroad 01 to create a legend. P.S.: Am I the only one annoyed that all these 'shippers' are pairing Ranka and Brera up just as they're trying to pair up Sheryl and Alto because they 'look good together'? Isn't that what everyone said in-universe about Minmay and Kaifun? Especially if Brera does bear any relation to Ranka? Seriously, folks... not everything's about 'looking good' together - else Hollywood marriages would all have happy endings, and all those good-looking couples wouldn't be divorcing all over the place. |
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2008-06-06, 19:31 | Link #150 | |
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........ For Alto I'm at Ranka 30% and sheryl dead 70%....>_>; In all seriousness now....Sheryl has the advantage so far...but from the macross I've seen...those with the lead at the start end up coming at the end limping with the lost....hopefully that formula doesn't change!! Ranka looked so adorable...when she saw the kiss scene... |
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2008-06-06, 19:38 | Link #151 |
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Macross 10 Review / Impressions Screens and Video up at my site
screen walking Video: Dailymotion, Vimeo When I saw the opening Scene looks just like a Macross Zero I knew this was going to be good. I do hope that Ranka and Alto get together in the end. They have yet to resolve Ranka's singing affecting the Vajra.
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2008-06-06, 19:40 | Link #152 | |||
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Look at the stuff in episode 10 Ranka found out about Alto, him being with Sheryl a lot, his past acting, she doesn't really know much about him and at the moment it's closer to a high school girl crush. This isn't the formula for a winner in a Kawamori show I'll tell you now... though I expect things to change. Sheryl otoh gets Alto on the "why do we fly/sing level" and her words about Destiny Alto mimicked when he told Ozma he wanted to join SMS. She also understands him on the acting part since she's been a star for a few years now while Ranka is just starting up right now. Also while Ranka may be the lead female Sheryl isn't exactly her Siesta to Ranka's Louise, or her Yoshida compared to Ranka's Shana etc. I personally doubt whoever is more important to the plot is going to also win the romantic stakes. Ranka and Sheryl are both very even, every episode that has focused on the other more has had undertones for the other. Quote:
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2008-06-06, 20:06 | Link #153 | |
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Finally, I don't agree with other comments that Ranka is a "shallow" character--she's not just a moeblob--her acting ability certainly showed as much. Alto's philosophy about acting all rests on emotional awareness and empathy, and Ranka absorbed that to such an extent she couldn't play Mao's role until she saw Sheryl steal that kiss. And once she started *acting*, she lost all the awkwardness and timidity that sometimes marks her character. That empathy may be important for a character like Alto, so beset by more adolescent angst than usual due to his family history. And we've seen her stand up to Ozma on the whole singing issue. Anyhow, I do agree with you that both female characters are *very* even, which is why this is a very good triangle. There's real uncertainty about pretty much everything; I still find Ranka way too charming, but Sheryl's character certainly has its strong points. It'll be interesting to see how they do things in the next ep. My guess is that we'll start to see Ranka being much more assertive, although that may or may not mean her "winning" in the end. But I think she's admitted to herself what she feels for Alto (comparing herself to Mao indicates that), while strangely enough, Sheryl may NOT have done that--Sheryl denying the importance of that kiss may indicate that. And Alto of course is a complete meathead when it comes to this sort of thing. |
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They're certainly close, although Sheryl's also catching up to some degree... but doing so with both of them. With Ranka, she's seemingly taken a proprietary interest in someone who either reminds her of herself... or someone that she wanted to be, and is actively encouraging that talent. The shocker of this episode may as much have to do with trying to goad Ranka on, as much as to tease Alto. Or because she really wanted to. Besides, I suspect there will at LEAST be a solid friendship at the end between all three, if they survive. They started that back in episode 3 in the shelter, and things since then have continued it even if there's a possible rivalry due to their roles in one another's lives. Ranka's starting to become more conscious of the fact that she DOES like Alto, which is at least a step in developing any real feelings towards him beyond that of gratitude for saving her life... or for listening and being the encouraging friend without being presumptuous like Nanase can be at times. In some ways, Alto's usurped Ozma's position as the most important male figure in Ranka's life... but Ozma did it to himself. I'm sure Lt. Glass will be most happy to tell him why he can't just be gruff with everyone... or Bobby might go GARby and end up doing so. Quote:
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2008-06-06, 20:50 | Link #156 | |||
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I do get some death vibes from Ranka due to her connection with the Varja and it's kinda increasing because unless I missed it (and it would've been a bad miss...) the last line from the 6 month old Frontier promo vid wasn't said in this episode. Read and watch at your own risk, line #6 was said in episode 8. Line #5 and #7 have yet to be said. http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost...&postcount=124 Notice how emotional that line is said too... great job by Megumi. It seems a lot of the voice acting was done a while ago or maybe that just did some key lines... and if that's the case than the last one is a very key line. Of course the line could be said in a Spoiler:
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2008-06-06, 20:54 | Link #157 | |
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actually line #6 hasn't been said yet... its a bit different from the one in episode 8 |
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