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Old 2018-09-16, 05:46   Link #2081
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Old 2018-09-16, 19:46   Link #2082
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Hey, we had Katapiler, of course we can have Fu chan.
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Old 2018-09-16, 19:54   Link #2083
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Or the comment is directed more towards the localization. I still cringe at Lancey. Just use the honorifics, Cygames.
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Old 2018-09-18, 12:19   Link #2084
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The buffs this time is super good.
Except Beatrix. Poor Bea, always at the short end of the stick.
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Old 2018-09-18, 16:26   Link #2085
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Old 2018-09-18, 21:13   Link #2086
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Bea isn't bad, her gimmick was removed and changed to be a pseudo Summer version of herself.

The biggest loser is once again Zeta.
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Old 2018-09-18, 21:27   Link #2087
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Bea isn't bad, her gimmick was removed and changed to be a pseudo Summer version of herself.

The biggest loser is once again Zeta.
Zeta is pretty much just nothing happens.

But if you ask me, Bea is more of a nerf than buff.
She use to have a kit that's super friendly to intermediate players despite not able to compete in the higher stratum.

But being a half baked summer version, she is still not good enough to compete with other top characters, while losing super convenience she can provide to the intermediate players.
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Old 2018-09-19, 16:00   Link #2088
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So Iíve heard Ridil is a great weapon. Should I get one for my full sword light grid for a light Glorybringer setup?
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Old 2018-09-19, 17:50   Link #2089
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Zeta is pretty much just nothing happens.

But if you ask me, Bea is more of a nerf than buff.
She use to have a kit that's super friendly to intermediate players despite not able to compete in the higher stratum.

But being a half baked summer version, she is still not good enough to compete with other top characters, while losing super convenience she can provide to the intermediate players.
She only had a spot for Hades grids tho. Because of her unique mod buff but even then she was never the go to option when Dark has plenty of better units to pick from and people choose inmediate rewarding than the outdated ramp up mechanics.
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Old 2018-09-19, 21:24   Link #2090
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She only had a spot for Hades grids tho. Because of her unique mod buff but even then she was never the go to option when Dark has plenty of better units to pick from and people choose inmediate rewarding than the outdated ramp up mechanics.
She can do Magna, even it is half baked.
That's why she is so new comer friendly.
An in game friend of mine was only 2/3 into the basic dark magna grid, and Bea is already steadily pumping out near cap damage with constant 40%+ TA rate.
And this is WITHOUT Zoey.

Yes, it is extremely button heavy to up keep that and advance players wouldn't bother, but she truely is a god sent to the new comers.

But now, advance players are still going to drop her, and all her new user friendliness are all gone.
If this is not a nerf, what is?
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Old 2018-09-20, 06:49   Link #2091
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Which, if any, of the free Side Story summons are worth keeping?
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Old 2018-09-20, 09:32   Link #2092
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She can do Magna, even it is half baked.
That's why she is so new comer friendly.
An in game friend of mine was only 2/3 into the basic dark magna grid, and Bea is already steadily pumping out near cap damage with constant 40%+ TA rate.
And this is WITHOUT Zoey.

Yes, it is extremely button heavy to up keep that and advance players wouldn't bother, but she truely is a god sent to the new comers.

But now, advance players are still going to drop her, and all her new user friendliness are all gone.
If this is not a nerf, what is?
That it's not true, current Bea needs babysitting, luck and source for data to keep her clock going that's anything but newcomer friendly.
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Old 2018-09-20, 09:34   Link #2093
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She can do Magna, even it is half baked.
That's why she is so new comer friendly.
An in game friend of mine was only 2/3 into the basic dark magna grid, and Bea is already steadily pumping out near cap damage with constant 40%+ TA rate.
And this is WITHOUT Zoey.

Yes, it is extremely button heavy to up keep that and advance players wouldn't bother, but she truely is a god sent to the new comers.

But now, advance players are still going to drop her, and all her new user friendliness are all gone.
If this is not a nerf, what is?
That it's not true, current Bea needs babysitting, luck and source for data to keep her clock going that's anything but newcomer friendly.
Intermediate and advance will aim for the obvious better options that are on others non selfish attackers.

An important detail I've seen is she's been changed to ougi.bomber which is the new meta on some elements.
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Old 2018-09-20, 23:32   Link #2094
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That it's not true, current Bea needs babysitting, luck and source for data to keep her clock going that's anything but newcomer friendly.
Intermediate and advance will aim for the obvious better options that are on others non selfish attackers.

An important detail I've seen is she's been changed to ougi.bomber which is the new meta on some elements.
Babysit? Sure.
But luck? It is the other way around. With a single Old Curtana she can maintain 40% TA just fine, if using GW dagger, she can maintain 70%
You kinda needs really bad luck to fail at upkeeping her buff.
And Bea's start up click pattern is like, set in stone. You just need to copy and paste what others did and you are set. There is no thinking required.
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Old Yesterday, 01:23   Link #2095
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And that is no longer newcomer friendly. That's medium.

Beatrix has always been niche. With the releases of new character she stopped being used progressively.
This rebalance simply made her bring utility and enable enmity on her own with Jammed with should be enough to cap on her own.
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Old Yesterday, 03:41   Link #2096
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And that is no longer newcomer friendly. That's medium.

Beatrix has always been niche. With the releases of new character she stopped being used progressively.
This rebalance simply made her bring utility and enable enmity on her own with Jammed with should be enough to cap on her own.
And remember my original point was that she's good up to intermediate level?
The tools needed to do what I mentioned above can be acquired even before unlocking the first Juutenshu.

Though, Bea's real problem is her button heaviness, not her damage out put.
300K+ per hit is like her standard damage (after proper buffs) without over reliance enmity once you are half way done with a dark magna grid.
And 440K can be achieved without heavy reliance on enmity either with a complete magna grid. She can also up keep 50% TA just by herself with two Old Curtana in the grid.
Her high hate value isn't without merit either, as it actually provides safety to character like Vyte and Orchis.
Just that all the clicks destroyed her under the current meta. I can see the fix is to adjust her to the new meta. Just I don't see doing so this can improve her worth as a character in general.
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