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dragon1412 · 2016-07-06, 12:34

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Originally Posted by OmegaWeaponZ

^Actually, all gods shown are gods of death/the dead. So there is very much a link between them all.

Was just about to edit my previous post about that fact.

Btw, Ra was basically the overall head of Egypt mythology.

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Originally Posted by EvI

^I see, in fact, i was looking at the leadership point of view, Horus is Ra sucessor and is the son of Osiris so i thought the author chose him, but yeah you are right

Ra is not the overall head of Egypt pantheon. Most of time, it is either Amun or Horankty ( Horus). Ra do merged with them later to create Amun-Re and Ra-Horankty, But in general, most of the time Ra is not treated as a chief god. There are areas that do treat Ra as chief god due to Egyptian's unique tendency, however these area is very rare and most of it is lost to time.

Horus and Ra is actually different, with the former being the god of sky and the latter being the god of the Sun.

OmegaWeaponZ · 2016-07-06, 12:42

Honestly didn't know that Amun was a separate entity. All that I know about Amun was just the title Ra obtained after emerging from the under world(Morning/first light). Thanks for clarifying that.

dragon1412 · 2016-07-06, 12:57

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Originally Posted by OmegaWeaponZ

Honestly didn't know that Amun was a separate entity. All that I know about Amun was just the title Ra obtained after emerging from the under world(Morning/first light). Thanks for clarifying that.

well most people would confuse in case of Ra, Ra merged with a lot of deities. even Osiris

Direwolf18 · 2016-07-06, 14:29

Egyptian mythology can get a little squirrelly that way. It evolves a lot over the years, and there are a lot of years. We are closer to the Roman Empire then then the New Kingsom (1550-1069 BC) was to the old kingdom (2600 BC-2100 BC).

Ancient Egyptian religion starts getting replaced around 332 BC when Alexander the Great conquers it and they become a lot more Greek. Common misconception is that Cleopatra was Egyptian, she was pretty much Greek. She is one of the only members of her entire dynasty (Ptolemaic) who bothered to even learn the Egyptian language.

OmegaWeaponZ · 2016-07-06, 15:53

^That's actually an interesting point, makes me want to read more into it now.

On the topic of death gods in regards to this series, do you guys think more will be added? If so which?

I would like to see something from mythos not used normally. Then again... I may be reading into the story waaaay to much again

EvI · 2016-07-06, 16:29

I actually think that, there are other groups of gods out there, Hokuto didn't seems THAT surprised when she faced Nayuta asking her if she was the same existence as them she was more surprised at the fact that she was human once and used Genesis to evolve, so there maybe other groups of gods with other objectives tho.

It would really be a pity if the author used these 4 as final bosses, it should be something evil they created or some other god, and i don't think they'll use the term "death god" here, since these four actually created life as well tho it would make no sense.

beast 666 · 2016-07-06, 17:04

Well, you should add more gods, would be something exciting, although there are many gods meaning "death" in Egyptian mythology, that the case of Anubis the dark God of the dead (has dog's head and human body), and also this Apophis which is the absolute God of darkness death and despair (although in some other mythologies is told that the is a dragon, this is false, but in Egyptian mythology it is said that it is a parasite). I am surprised to know that data Yurishia and Aine were taken by Thanatos, but my question is what its purpose.

The character of Thanatos is a character who leaves a lot to think about, I hope to see in a future know what is the reason for his sadness

Direwolf18 · 2016-07-06, 17:28

Well each of these gods is most defiantly part of a polytheistic pantheon. I would assume there are others. I mean Thanatos was pretty small fish for the greeks, while Odin was top dog.

Kuroageha · 2016-07-06, 18:09

Each name are the representatives of death each cosmology.

It doesn't matters much if they were chief gods or not, Odin got killed by a dog bite despite preparing himself for a long time to to prevent his fate.

kampfer91 · 2016-07-06, 18:22

But ain't it funny that the Creator is all Goddess ? There is only 1 way to settle this

XFire · 2016-07-06, 18:27

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Originally Posted by Kuroageha

Each name are the representatives of death each cosmology.

It doesn't matters much if they were chief gods or not, Odin got killed by a dog bite despite preparing himself for a long time to to prevent his fate.

That dog was Fenrir, the monster who ate literally the entire universe.

Kuroageha · 2016-07-06, 19:01

Which proves that being a chief hod means nothing against death.

EvI · 2016-07-06, 19:13

Dude norse mithology is that kind depressing history "AND THEN THEY DIED. THE END." please...

XFire · 2016-07-06, 23:35

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Originally Posted by EvI

Dude norse mithology is that kind depressing history "AND THEN THEY DIED. THE END." please...

Er, there was an epilogue involving an Adam and Eve plot as well as a single surviving god, I believe.

OmegaWeaponZ · 2016-07-06, 23:49

Actually, more gods than Baldur survive Ragnorok.

Hodur(The god who kills Baldur), is said to return only to make peace with Baldur, and Vali(The god who Odin sired to kill Hodur for his sin of killing of killing Baldur) are yow who come to mind that survive alongside Baldur. KInda symbolic really, the remaining gods would represent Truth, Vengeance and Light. (There is a fourth which survives, but their name eludes me...)

AP24 · 2016-07-07, 00:30

Looks like we're going to see core re-install, the same way it's done with Sylvia. In this volume it will be Himekawa while wearing that cosplay costume. I wonder if it will happen with Reiri too.

KnightShade · 2016-07-07, 00:34

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Originally Posted by OmegaWeaponZ

Actually, more gods than Baldur survive Ragnorok.

Hodur(The god who kills Baldur), is said to return only to make peace with Baldur, and Vali(The god who Odin sired to kill Hodur for his sin of killing of killing Baldur) are yow who come to mind that survive alongside Baldur. KInda symbolic really, the remaining gods would represent Truth, Vengeance and Light. (There is a fourth which survives, but their name eludes me...)

Vali being odins adopted son in DxD suddenly makes a lot more sense now

OmegaWeaponZ · 2016-07-07, 00:55

^Another reason why I need to read 19 - 21

For the little time, I could imagine odin to be a troll father, even if adopeted.

Direwolf18 · 2016-07-07, 05:40

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Originally Posted by kampfer91

But ain't it funny that the Creator is all Goddess ? There is only 1 way to settle this

Most really early religions, see Neolithic religions tended to be nature goddess worship. There are instances where the cultures didn't even realize men were required for pregnancy.

Sound familiar?

Athena from the Greeks is one of the holdovers from the old old religions before things started shoring up into the new old gods that most of us are familiar with.

OmegaWeaponZ · 2016-07-07, 06:09

^Found the Campione reader

2016-07-06, 12:42	Link #1102
OmegaWeaponZ Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2015	Honestly didn't know that Amun was a separate entity. All that I know about Amun was just the title Ra obtained after emerging from the under world(Morning/first light). Thanks for clarifying that. __________________ "There is no such thing as Good and Evil, but thinking that makes it such"

2016-07-06, 15:53	Link #1105
OmegaWeaponZ Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2015	^That's actually an interesting point, makes me want to read more into it now. On the topic of death gods in regards to this series, do you guys think more will be added? If so which? I would like to see something from mythos not used normally. Then again... I may be reading into the story waaaay to much again __________________ "There is no such thing as Good and Evil, but thinking that makes it such"

2016-07-06, 16:29	Link #1106
EvI Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Brazil	I actually think that, there are other groups of gods out there, Hokuto didn't seems THAT surprised when she faced Nayuta asking her if she was the same existence as them she was more surprised at the fact that she was human once and used Genesis to evolve, so there maybe other groups of gods with other objectives tho. It would really be a pity if the author used these 4 as final bosses, it should be something evil they created or some other god, and i don't think they'll use the term "death god" here, since these four actually created life as well tho it would make no sense. Last edited by EvI; 2016-07-06 at 18:04.

2016-07-06, 17:04	Link #1107
beast 666 Dragon Of The Destruction Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Brazil Age: 31	Well, you should add more gods, would be something exciting, although there are many gods meaning "death" in Egyptian mythology, that the case of Anubis the dark God of the dead (has dog's head and human body), and also this Apophis which is the absolute God of darkness death and despair (although in some other mythologies is told that the is a dragon, this is false, but in Egyptian mythology it is said that it is a parasite). I am surprised to know that data Yurishia and Aine were taken by Thanatos, but my question is what its purpose. The character of Thanatos is a character who leaves a lot to think about, I hope to see in a future know what is the reason for his sadness __________________ 'The destruction more beautiful is when you destroy the fears and weaknesses that you lurking, to become someone strong that can no longer be dominated by anything or anyone.'

2016-07-06, 23:49	Link #1115
OmegaWeaponZ Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2015	Actually, more gods than Baldur survive Ragnorok. Hodur(The god who kills Baldur), is said to return only to make peace with Baldur, and Vali(The god who Odin sired to kill Hodur for his sin of killing of killing Baldur) are yow who come to mind that survive alongside Baldur. KInda symbolic really, the remaining gods would represent Truth, Vengeance and Light. (There is a fourth which survives, but their name eludes me...) __________________ "There is no such thing as Good and Evil, but thinking that makes it such"

2016-07-06, 14:29	Link #1104
Direwolf18 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009	Egyptian mythology can get a little squirrelly that way. It evolves a lot over the years, and there are a lot of years. We are closer to the Roman Empire then then the New Kingsom (1550-1069 BC) was to the old kingdom (2600 BC-2100 BC). Ancient Egyptian religion starts getting replaced around 332 BC when Alexander the Great conquers it and they become a lot more Greek. Common misconception is that Cleopatra was Egyptian, she was pretty much Greek. She is one of the only members of her entire dynasty (Ptolemaic) who bothered to even learn the Egyptian language.

2016-07-06, 17:28	Link #1108
Direwolf18 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2009	Well each of these gods is most defiantly part of a polytheistic pantheon. I would assume there are others. I mean Thanatos was pretty small fish for the greeks, while Odin was top dog.

2016-07-06, 18:09	Link #1109
Kuroageha Mystic Musician Join Date: Jul 2015	Each name are the representatives of death each cosmology. It doesn't matters much if they were chief gods or not, Odin got killed by a dog bite despite preparing himself for a long time to to prevent his fate.

2016-07-06, 18:22	Link #1110
kampfer91 Master Eugenist Join Date: Jul 2013	But ain't it funny that the Creator is all Goddess ? There is only 1 way to settle this

2016-07-06, 19:01	Link #1112
Kuroageha Mystic Musician Join Date: Jul 2015	Which proves that being a chief hod means nothing against death.

2016-07-06, 19:13	Link #1113
EvI Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Brazil	Dude norse mithology is that kind depressing history "AND THEN THEY DIED. THE END." please...

2016-07-07, 00:30	Link #1116
AP24 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011	Looks like we're going to see core re-install, the same way it's done with Sylvia. In this volume it will be Himekawa while wearing that cosplay costume. I wonder if it will happen with Reiri too.

2016-07-07, 00:55	Link #1118
OmegaWeaponZ Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2015	^Another reason why I need to read 19 - 21 For the little time, I could imagine odin to be a troll father, even if adopeted. __________________ "There is no such thing as Good and Evil, but thinking that makes it such"

2016-07-07, 06:09	Link #1120
OmegaWeaponZ Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2015	^Found the Campione reader __________________ "There is no such thing as Good and Evil, but thinking that makes it such"