Shingeki no Kyojin (Attack on Titan) - Manga discussion

[Mad Pierrot]

Originally Posted by Ultragunner

chap 106 is out, and we get more context of things, and I am still salty about Sasha

If TVTropes is reliable, then Isayama originally planned to kill her far earlier but her popularity made her stay alive for a longer time.

[Wandering Soul]

I recall Isayama did state in an earlier interview that a rift would form between Eren and Armin, and now it looks like we just saw what started that rift. Armin hopes that things will progress to a point that they can be settled with negotiations, while Eren believes that Marley's animostiy towards them won't disappear and that the only way a future can be secured is by taking down Marley first. Eren didn't just decided to attack on his own, but he actually left for Marley by himself and let everyone else know through a letter. The main trio's relationship is in shambles now due to Eren and Armin's differing ideals and Eren's decision to do things on his own.

It was funny watching Hange gush over new types of technology. Also that bullet transition scene with Sasha was well done.

[kitten320]

Spoiler for Just in case, chapter 106:

Oh man, this is glorious. I know I will sound like an ass but I really don't care cause just few months back you guys laughed at me, saying I'm crazy for suggesting that Annie would be still alive and viola! Guess who is back and alive! Bwahahaha!

Anyone fancies an apology? Cause if you seriously thought she is dead after all that foreshadowing, then you clearly have no idea how literature works.

And honestly, since season 1 ended, my guesses and assumptions about Annie were correct. Won't deny I went overboard on several occasions but main points remained aka not Marco's cold hearted killer and being forced into whole thing and many more. About time you guys stopped doubting me when it comes to her.

And the whole trust thing... considering how easily they trusted Zeke and tons of other Marley soldiers, trust in Annie is really not that much of an issue as you guys were trying to make. Just being careful and keeping an eye out on them. As I said main cast needs information and needs to take the risks, that's exactly what they did only with Zeke instead of Annie who is even less trustworthy and caused 50 times more damage than Annie. So yeh... try again.

Sorry not sorry, but I had to take it out cause it is indeed hilarious. All the wait totally worth it.



Now about actual chapter with ass mode off, I have to admit I like where it's heading. Armin/Eren showdown should be fun to watch. Would be even more fun if Annie actually wakes up cause there will be 2/3 sides that she could join and Armin's side seems most beneficial for her since he wants to sort it out in less bloody way. Not to mention Armin is pretty close to understanding her and her motives/actions.


Defo looking to some complex character stuff in future chapters, excited.
Will be kinda funny if it turns out into Eren/Mikasa VS Armin/Annie. Though don't really wanna see the three of them killing each other, that's kinda sad twist considering Eren and Mikasa were ready to fight whole country to save Armin.

Well let's wait and see what happens^^

[LelouchR1]

Originally Posted by Wandering Soul

I recall Isayama did state in an earlier interview that a rift would form between Eren and Armin, and now it looks like we just saw what started that rift. Armin hopes that things will progress to a point that they can be settled with negotiations, while Eren believes that Marley's animostiy towards them won't disappear and that the only way a future can be secured is by taking down Marley first. Eren didn't just decided to attack on his own, but he actually left for Marley by himself and let everyone else know through a letter. The main trio's relationship is in shambles now due to Eren and Armin's differing ideals and Eren's decision to do things on his own.

It was funny watching Hange gush over new types of technology. Also that bullet transition scene with Sasha was well done.

Apparently, the author decided to make an attempt to intrigue us, but I think bad idea!

[Diluc]

Originally Posted by Mad Pierrot

If TVTropes is reliable, then Isayama originally planned to kill her far earlier but her popularity made her stay alive for a longer time.

Well,to be frank she and Connie probably the least relevant main characters. Their death is not impact much aside fandom reaction, it just matter of time Isayama disposed them.

[Kanon]

This chapter confirmed all my speculations. I didn't think there would be this many traitors from Marley though. We need a flashback telling Zeke's side of the story now. I don't know if it'll be important, but Levi is under the assumption Zeke's grandparents are dead, and perhaps believes it's part of the reason he betrayed Marley. However, we know his grandfather is still alive since Eren met him.

With Eren now having the power of the Jaw titan, Annie can be freed from the crystal. I expect the next chapter to deal with that.

[Wandering Soul]

Originally Posted by Kanon

I don't know if it'll be important, but Levi is under the assumption Zeke's grandparents are dead, and perhaps believes it's part of the reason he betrayed Marley. However, we know his grandfather is still alive since Eren met him.
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Levi is talking about the current day where he's saying that Marley most likely executed Eren's grandparents as scapegoats for his attack.

[Twi]

Originally Posted by Kanon

This chapter confirmed all my speculations. I didn't think there would be this many traitors from Marley though. We need a flashback telling Zeke's side of the story now. I don't know if it'll be important, but Levi is under the assumption Zeke's grandparents are dead, and perhaps believes it's part of the reason he betrayed Marley. However, we know his grandfather is still alive since Eren met him.

With Eren now having the power of the Jaw titan, Annie can be freed from the crystal. I expect the next chapter to deal with that.

He didn't get the Jaws. Remember, Reiner pulled him out before he got nommed. He does have the War Hammer though, but we've seen Jaws is tougher than War Hammer in terms of density if its on part with her crystal cocoon.

[Kanon]

Ah, that's right, I got Warhammer and Jaw confused. Then I guess Zeke might know of a way to break Annie out of her crystal.

About the grandparents, it doesn't make much sense for Zeke to abandon them when he sacrificed his own parents to ensure their safety. I actually thought they were part of the reason he faked his death. They have nothing to do with Eren either, and Zeke's contribution to Marley should outweigh Eren's actions. Of course, Piecke has already figured out Zeke is a traitor, but Levi and Zeke don't know that.

[ReddyRedWolf]

More than the allies they made these three years Paradis is divided between Hawks and Doves.

Both comes toward a MAD scenario. Doves wants to convince the rest of the world Paradis isn't made out of monsters. Hawks want Marley destroyed for all the injustice Marley did to them. The Wall Titans as deterrent.

Thing is either way Zeke had to be extracted. But since Zeke is on a clock Eren took matters into his own hands. Willy upped the ante with his scheme to make Paradis as scapegoat.

For other countries it comes down to they will side or consider a greater threat, Paradis or Marley?

[Toukairin]

In any case, the presence of Marleyan defectors shows me that Marley is more fragile than one would think. It's like Poland and Finland hating the Russian Empire in the early 20th Century. Since other countries have heard little of Paradis until now while they were at war for years and sustained heavy casualties against Marley, my guess is that they would rather try forging alliances with the new power that is Paradis... at least for now.

[Anh_Minh]

Originally Posted by Wandering Soul

I recall Isayama did state in an earlier interview that a rift would form between Eren and Armin, and now it looks like we just saw what started that rift. Armin hopes that things will progress to a point that they can be settled with negotiations, while Eren believes that Marley's animostiy towards them won't disappear and that the only way a future can be secured is by taking down Marley first.

To be precise, he didn't believe the animosity would disappear in the time Zeke had left. Which is a fair assessment. I mean, what were they doing when Eren launched his attack?

Also, looks like Eren's the only one with a better hairstyle post-timeskip.

[The Small One]

What surprised me the most in this chapter was, that Zeke obviously knew about his royal heritage.
This really makes me wonder how he got this information. As far as we know, his parents never told him. And even if they did, in his young age he was a loyal Marleyan soldier and would have told his seniors. So he propably only acquired this knowledge at a time he was already in doubt.

[bastek66]

Raws are up last page of latest chapter shows that Historia

Spoiler for new chap:

is pregnant

[Diluc]

Originally Posted by bastek66

Raws are up last page of latest chapter shows that Historia

Spoiler for new chap:

is pregnant

Spoiler for spoiler:

Eren was on spy duty for years so he is unlikely the father

[Ruki0089]

Who is the father?
Levi? Armin? Jean? Connie?
Or maybe? Fat old geezer?

[GDB]

Spoiler:

Honestly wouldn't surprise me if it were a Prince from another country. Political marriage and all, you know?

[scififan]

Historia wants to inherit beast titan's ability and Eren is against the idea?
No matter what, it seems she will return to the frontline and get killed.
Does Mikasa's tatto have hidden meaning?

[Wandering Soul]

Originally Posted by GDB

Spoiler:

Honestly wouldn't surprise me if it were a Prince from another country. Political marriage and all, you know?

Spoiler for Response:

Either that or it could be matter of making sure there is someone to succeed her if anything happens.

[Kanon]

Originally Posted by Wandering Soul

Spoiler for Response:

Either that or it could be matter of making sure there is someone to succeed her if anything happens.

Spoiler for Spoilers:

That's exactly it. They're having her have a baby so the royal bloodline can continue. Afterward, she's supposed to eat Zeke to get the Beast Titan. She tried to choose a different path but still ended up being a tool for others.

Paradis already has an alliance with the asian country (not surprising) and apparently Mikasa is the shogun's descendant? What?