High School DxD [LN/M] - Discussion about Other Topics

[eisai_haramasukoi]

Originally Posted by Parry999

Cloning is a possibility.

Why waste effort on cloning whey the have The Gun?

[B214]

Originally Posted by AD3LF0N53

Why waste effort on cloning whey the have The Gun?

Because the girls could end up becoming guys permanently too.

[Lucidrago]

Originally Posted by Tyler.R

I was just trying to point out that Sirzech having the blood of bael would help the great king faction as much as Sirzech himself being a leader of the Maou faction. I know there are many reasons for the bael position I just thought it might be a factor that no one really talks abou

They have always been the highest ranked noble house of the 72 Pillars and their position would be the same whether Sirzechs became Maou or not.

They have always had power being in the highest standing among the 72 Pillars and having a lot of authority. But that would be dwarfed by the influence the Maou had as rulers of the Underworld. And while the Maou are basically above the Great King in rank and should have more authority and influence, due to Sirzechs and the others not being the original Maou or descendants of the original Maou, they have no legitimate claim to the title by the standards of the Underworld.

Sirzechs becoming Maou increased the House of Gremory's standing within the 72 Pillars but not the Baels in the way you think. They have always been ranked the highest. And the reason the Bael Faction rivals the Maou Faction is due to the Underworld largely being built off of heritage and bloodlines.

[godz]

Guys a question, is it true that kuroka and koneko are the last nekoshu in dxd or only the acquaintances?

[Lucidrago]

Originally Posted by godz

Guys a question, is it true that kuroka and koneko are the last nekoshu in dxd or only the acquaintances?

I don't believe they're the last of the Nekoshou but that Nekoshou are very rare and low in number among the Nekomata species. I got to reread the novel to confirm it though.

[syzorst]

Back in vol. 3 Kokabiel once stated if the war between the 3 factions continued the Fallen Angels would have won. Do you think that would've been the case if the war continued?

[XFire]

Originally Posted by syzorst

Back in vol. 3 Kokabiel once stated if the war between the 3 factions continued the Fallen Angels would have won. Do you think that would've been the case if the war continued?

It seems extremely unlikely, even if Kokabiel didn't know of Sirzechs and Ajuka's full power. Azazel and the Grigori's research and SG users might close the gap a bit, but they always came off as the weakest of the three factions.

[syzorst]

Originally Posted by XFire

It seems extremely unlikely, even if Kokabiel didn't know of Sirzechs and Ajuka's full power. Azazel and the Grigori's research and SG users might close the gap a bit, but they always came off as the weakest of the three factions.

Sirzech and Ajuka can be considered aces on the devil's side but it's been stated many times that the devil population was low. Which makes sense since they had the Civil War between the old and current Maou faction.

[XFire]

Originally Posted by syzorst

Sirzech and Ajuka can be considered aces on the devil's side but it's been stated many times that the devil population was low. Which makes sense since they had the Civil War between the old and current Maou faction.

Yeah, but same goes for the others. The Angel's started doing the ascension thing to boost their numbers, and the Fallen have basically decided to die out with their generation.

[syzorst]

Originally Posted by XFire

Yeah, but same goes for the others. The Angel's started doing the ascension thing to boost their numbers, and the Fallen have basically decided to die out with their generation.

I don't recall seeing anything about the Fallen Angels being in danger of being extinct. We know the Angels were in trouble because they couldn't produce no more angels due to God of the Bible being dead and the Devils suffered a civil war. Fallen Angels had the best tech and had SG users.

[XFire]

Originally Posted by syzorst

I don't recall seeing anything about the Fallen Angels being in danger of being extinct. We know the Angels were in trouble because they couldn't produce no more angels due to God of the Bible being dead and the Devils suffered a civil war. Fallen Angels had the best tech and had SG users.

Azazel at one point says that he and the fallen have deliberately chosen not to use the same kind of reincarnation tech to replenish their numbers because "the fallen Angel's will end with just us".

[Royalknightftw]

Originally Posted by XFire

Azazel at one point says that he and the fallen have deliberately chosen not to use the same kind of reincarnation tech to replenish their numbers because "the fallen Angel's will end with just us".

I think it was in Volume 14 or something when they discussed about Brave saint and the future of rating game.

Lol, about fallen angels winning the war, it was just Kokabiel being a megalomaniac as usual

[syzorst]

Originally Posted by Royalknightftw

I think it was in Volume 14 or something when they discussed about Brave saint and the future of rating game.

Lol, about fallen angels winning the war, it was just Kokabiel being a megalomaniac as usual

Not really if you think about it. Fallen Angels had SG users on their side and had the best tech. I don't say their chances were guaranteed but they had a solid chance if you think about it.

[XFire]

Originally Posted by syzorst

Not really if you think about it. Fallen Angels had SG users on their side and had the best tech. I don't say their chances were guaranteed but they had a solid chance if you think about it.

Their tech didn't really amount to much until the artificial SG stuff took off, and that was perfected via the integration of other mythology tech iirc.

More to the point, the SG users for the most part didn't have access to Balance Breaker, as it was a rare thing until Cao Cao figured out how to supercharge the development cycle.

I think their strongest person was Tobio, followed by Vali, but neither of then matched up to Sirzechs or Ajuka.

[Parry999]

Lucifers and Gods technology was way better, holy swords, demonic swords, Scared gears and the Malebranche

[syzorst]

Originally Posted by XFire

Their tech didn't really amount to much until the artificial SG stuff took off, and that was perfected via the integration of other mythology tech iirc.

More to the point, the SG users for the most part didn't have access to Balance Breaker, as it was a rare thing until Cao Cao figured out how to supercharge the development cycle.

I think their strongest person was Tobio, followed by Vali, but neither of then matched up to Sirzechs or Ajuka.

What do you mean? Azazel was able to create a artificial SG through Fafnir and this was before the alliance. People with artificial SG was based on the tech from the Fallen Angels. So if anything it's because of the Fallen Angels that the artificial SG took off.

Sirzech and Ajuka are the strongest but when you factor in the number advantage then it can go either way. Ddraig and Albion bodies were destroyed because of this.

[Lucidrago]

The Great War ended before Sirzechs and Ajuka were even born. And even with the two of them it really wouldn't guarantee the devils would win. Rizevim was a Super Devil and yet the devils didn't win the Great War.

Each faction is basically equal. While the fallen angels know more about Sacred Gears and knows how to teach its possessors to use them, Heaven's side may have more Sacred Gear users than them.

And even if angels can't breed easily, they still outnumber the fallen angels. The original fallen angels may have been a small minority of the angels that God created. So even if they can breed more easily than angels, their numbers are still lower than the angels.

[syzorst]

Originally Posted by Lucidrago

The Great War ended before Sirzechs and Ajuka were even born. And even with the two of them it really wouldn't guarantee the devils would win. Rizevim was a Super Devil and yet the devils didn't win the Great War.

Each faction is basically equal. While the fallen angels know more about Sacred Gears and knows how to teach its possessors to use them, Heaven's side may have more Sacred Gear users than them.

And even if angels can't breed easily, they still outnumber the fallen angels. The original fallen angels may have been a small minority of the angels that God created. So even if they can breed more easily than angels, their numbers are still lower than the angels.

Where was it stated the Angels had more SG users? They mostly had exorcist with basic holy swords.

[XFire]

Originally Posted by syzorst

What do you mean? Azazel was able to create a artificial SG through Fafnir and this was before the alliance. People with artificial SG was based on the tech from the Fallen Angels. So if anything it's because of the Fallen Angels that the artificial SG took off.

Sirzech and Ajuka are the strongest but when you factor in the number advantage then it can go either way. Ddraig and Albion bodies were destroyed because of this.

He made a vessel that let him channel part of Fafnir's power, sure, but that was exclusive to him and (from what Fafnir has demonstrated thus far) horrendously inefficient. Artificial SG is Fallen Angel tech, but it never reached a practical stage before the Aliance.

There is no numbers advantage. All three sides were equally exhausted and depleted from the war.

[Parry999]

Originally Posted by XFire

He made a vessel that let him channel part of Fafnir's power, sure, but that was exclusive to him and (from what Fafnir has demonstrated thus far) horrendously inefficient. Artificial SG is Fallen Angel tech, but it never reached a practical stage before the Aliance.

There is no numbers advantage. All three sides were equally exhausted and depleted from the war.

Didn't Kokabiel say they lost a majority of there army, but kept there leaders? Well the devil side had hundreds of high class devils and an unknown amount of low and mid.