2015-05-25, 23:09 | Link #1 |
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Chinese Media Say Military Confrontation Over South China Sea 'Inevitable' If US Tries To Stop Island Reclamations
Note "Chinese Media Says". Still it would be interesting to see some sabre rattling here.
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2015-05-26, 06:52 | Link #2 |
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Pfft, all this saber rattling is just strengthening the Anti-Chinese alliance in the Far East.
Though on the other hand its still quite improbable for a war to break out between the US a and China. Maybe a proxy skirmish between China and neighbors like Vietnam or the Philippines? But it certainly would be a negative outcome for the recently recovering world economy.
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2015-05-26, 07:33 | Link #3 |
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I'd rather not have a war thanks. The US would use Australia as a staging ground and I'd rather not have that sort of target painted on us. Compared to the countries around us our armed forces are quite small, even if we are probably crazily trained and fairly well equipped (I've never really looked to hard at what we have, just that apparently the S.A.S are insane). I guess the upside would be that if the US and the majority of SEA throw down against China, the total numbers would probably be fairly even.
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Also, the PH isn't totally well-equipped for armed combat. Despite my grandpa's continuous complaints about the government's actions as "befitting of gay cowards", I feel that the UNCLoS is the only way the Philippines can "fight". I'm that even China won't risk getting sanctioned by the UN for crossing the line over international laws. Quote:
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2015-05-26, 13:47 | Link #6 |
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For all the crap that is said in the Chinese media, I always wonder if they have at least 2 neurons to think what would happen if the US starts using their own media machine to play the same kind of game (Oh, the irony!). I'm sure it can be very unpleasant if you have the US media machine turning against you in any kind of story.
From what I can understand, the Seventh Fleet is in the area. So my guess is that the "threats" are aimed at the Fleet, especially since the Navy sent a P-8A Poseidon to take better photos of the infrastructures built by the Chinese on the island on a regular basis. So far, that's all: a plane taking photos of a construction being built in an illegal zone. What is it to get pissed about? Either way, China's presence is already an ecological threat with the way they are destroying coral reefs through construction out there. Last edited by KiraYamatoFan; 2015-05-26 at 15:14. |
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So I would assume this is an opinion of a random writer based on that. Edit: ok, upon further reading, this opinion is also shared by 2 academic analysts from China. |
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2015-05-27, 21:54 | Link #8 | |
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In the short/mid term, a conflict is pretty much impossible. China holds so much US treasury bonds that China can threaten financial ruin for the US should anything happen. China also can threaten the global supply of rare earths, which would mean no more smartphones for you (side note, most smartphone assembly is in China so that's a double no smartphone for us) On the flip side, China is still very much export dependent for it's economy so shooting the people who are buying your goods is a very bad business decision... Also, I suspect any armed conflict would turn off relations with Taiwan and bolden the separatist in HK I think NK would be super happy though |
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2015-05-28, 06:56 | Link #9 |
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U.S. hopes Chinese island-building will spur Asian response
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/...0OD0AX20150528
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And when it come to military power, I don't think ASEAN stand a chance against China even if all ASEAN countries combine their forces. We're talking about a war against a country with more than 1.3 billion people ( They can literally zerg rush you ) and nuclear weapon. Dealing with China through diplomatic measure is ASEAN's best choice.
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2015-05-29, 06:28 | Link #11 |
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Well as I've said a lot of these sabre rattling is just playing into the hands of the US. There's that major "trade" agreement being negotiated with the Trans Pacific Partnership which conspicuously doesn't include China. The hawkish remilitarization of Japanese rhetoric, reiteration of US support to various far East Asian allies etc.
And no, its not as if ASEAN countries would be standing alone if there is a conflict with China. There are mutual defense treaties between the US and various countries in the region after all such as Japan, South Korea, the Philippines, Australia, etc. Which is a heavy deterrent and counterweight in the region.
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2015-05-29, 08:02 | Link #13 |
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U.S. says China has placed mobile artillery on reclaimed island
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/...0OE12T20150529
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2015-05-29, 23:33 | Link #15 |
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China Tries To Jam U.S. Global Hawks While Busy Developing Their Own:
"China has reportedly been trying to jam U.S. Air Force RQ-4 Global Hawk flights flying over the increasingly volatile South China Sea. Meanwhile, they are busy perfecting its own High Altitude Long Endurance (HALE) unmanned aircraft, with new pictures of a twin fuselage design emerging on the internet." See: http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/chi...lop-1707641153 |
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Exclusive: Vietnam eyes Western warplanes, patrol aircraft to counter China
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/...0OL04U20150605
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2015-06-05, 23:45 | Link #17 |
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Chinese hackers have breached the US government twice in less than a
year: "The US government suspects that Chinese hackers have hacked into the Office of Personnel Management, which operates as the human resources arm of the federal government, according to reports by the Wall Street Journal and the Washington Post. The records of about 4 million current and former federal employees were compromised. According to the Washington Post, the hackers obtained information about "employees' job assignments, performance ratings and training," but not sensitive information related to background checks or security clearances." See: http://www.vox.com/2015/6/4/8732499/...overnment-hack ================================================== ==== Giant hack may be first step in pursuit of bigger US secrets: "The government is worried that hackers who raided more than 4 million federal employment files will use their loot to pry into more-secure computers and plunder secrets about the U.S. military, economic strategy or foreign relations. Federal officials said Friday the cyberattack appeared to have originated in China, but they didn't point fingers directly at the Chinese government. The Chinese said any such accusation would be "irresponsible and unscientific."" See: http://bigstory.ap.org/article/3c000...federal-agency ================================================== ==== 'We should be very clear: China is at virtual war with the United States': "China's offensive cyber capabilities have consistently surprised the United States in terms of breadth and sophistication of attacks. "The latest attacks revealed yesterday show millions of existing and former US government employees with their private data now in the hands of the Chinese state." See: http://www.businessinsider.com/china...-the-us-2015-6 ================================================== ==== Go Ahead, China—Copy Our Crappiest Warplane: "Desperate to project power in the South China Sea, Beijing is working on a hovering “jump jet” that looks a lot like the Pentagon’s F-35B. But this bit of espionage will cost them." See: http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...-warplane.html ================================================== ==== Avoiding Or At Least Hiding The Apocalypse: "Internet photos (of ship mockups for training) and chatter indicate that China is preparing to begin construction of a new (Type 055) 12,000 ton cruiser class ship with over a hundred VLS tubes and much else besides. This would be the largest surface combat ship China has ever built. Carriers, which are much larger, are also planned." See: http://www.strategypage.com/qnd/chin.../20150605.aspx |
2015-06-06, 05:04 | Link #18 |
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Why the hell does China feel a need to saber rattle? Surely there government must know there best strategy is to keep the economy growing and not create the sort of situation were there major trading partners aren't super edgy around them?
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