2013-07-24, 01:59 | Link #524 |
Fairy Legion
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WEll... i do recommend an upgrade to A-10 in increase load and increase in mobility... For example, you can fit <Land Spinner> on its legs so that you can increase its over all maneuverability...
The only problem is... what kind of innovation do you need to stop an advance of BETA? 36mm has prove ineffective piercing a destroyer class forward armor... 120mm doesnt do shit about it either... But a railgun does work... i was thinking if somewhat one way, a rifle version of Assault cannon(i'll call it Tactical Cannon) which uses Rail technology which uses at least 45mm rounds to pierce a destroyer class's shell up front and in safe range as well... do you think shell accelerated 3 times the speed of sound can pierce a 15 moh's scale armor in 200m range? and can be semi mass produced by any countries? Now fit that technology in a TSA like A-10 I was thinking as well how to kill tank class without expending too much ammunition at the same time allows you to fight them up front with out the risk of being latched on?? Well, i was thinking of traditional shot guns... they will be very effective engaging anything on close range i would suggest calling it as Box-Shot Cannon or Shot Cannon for short.... Any thoughts about this ideas |
2013-07-24, 02:46 | Link #525 | |
Lumine Passio
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Explosive fraction bullet (Like the Riot Grenade in Code Geass, just exploding on contact). |
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2013-07-24, 06:40 | Link #526 |
Idar Lead
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I don't think there's a track system can can reliably tow/move something as heavy as A-10.
Also, railgun technology wouldn't work, because it's too fragile and inefficient. IRL, the smallest railgun today is size of a destroyer, and is result of decades of work, millions of dollars, and can fire a shell every...several hours? M-L's railgun is smaller, but it uses G-elements (which are in short supply), and is incredibly fragile (LNs and Manga of TE show that it's utterly worthless if you get surprise-attacked). And yes, it can fire 2000 rounds in matter of seconds, but then it has to be reloaded. To BETA, loosing 3000 troops is an acceptable loss, especially if the next wave will overrun the railguns anyway. Another thing is that Destroyer's shell is nowhere near as indestructible as most people assume it is. The side-materials suggest that it really is that though, but ML: Alternative VN (which is IMO, the source of all cannon), shows that it's inconsistent; Valkyries take down several Destroyers with frontal shots, and even sword blows. One of the side materials implies that most forces still use Steel Penetrator rounds instead of Depleted Uranium/Tungesten sabots. While I'm not a military expert, steel-tipped rounds were obsolete towards the end of Cold War, and wouldn't do jack against modern-day tanks, much less armored aliens. It would probably be more effective to simply increase the supply of quality ammo, rather than build new weapons altogether. 120mm cannons can also fire canister shots, which makes shotgun weapons redundant. Really, for the most part, M-L's humanity would handle itself well, if not for the sheer attrition they suffered before decent technology became available, and the mind-blowing incompetence of several countries (Yes, I'm looking at you, USSR).
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2013-07-24, 08:05 | Link #527 |
Lumine Passio
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Well, you are right! But how about increasing the size of A-10 feets? I am thinking a Snow Skier/Patin fusion.
And the supply, you know that the USSR doesn't have much ground left, not to mention that it's hard and costly to mining in a land like Siberian. Also, what exactly a Assault Cannon made from? I just want to make sure how long could they overheated. |
2013-07-25, 05:32 | Link #528 |
Idar Lead
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I'm not sure what increasing A-10s feet would do, other than increasing it's mass, and it wouldn't be able to "float" on ground a la skis, since it's just not mobile enough.
Mining in Siberia is expensive, but the natural wealth there far, far outruns the costs. This is why it's Europe that's afraid of Russian economy, not the other way around. Of course, in Muv-Luv the greatest issue would be securing Siberian mining interests against the BETA...then again, I'm alright with Soviets being overrun and killed to the last. The rest of the world can buy its ammo from America, South American countries and Greenland. It's never mentioned from what Assault Cannons are made from. I assume its some sort of composite, but I wouldn't bet my life on it.
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2013-07-25, 07:59 | Link #529 | |
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2013-07-25, 10:51 | Link #530 |
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On penetrators, towards the tail end of WW2, tungsten sabot rounds started to replace steel penetrators, but the major issue with tungsten is that it's fucking expensive. That's why in the US, they use depleted uranium, since they've got huge uranium stockpiles and DU is CHEAP compared to titanium or tungsten. In fact, with the Mideast mostly overrun, Imcould see the US shifting to nuclear power for a lot of their domestic energy consumption, with fuel prioritised for the military. The reactors the US uses will creat DU as a byproduct, which can be used for ammo making.
This is a small point in Comet; the US TSFs are for the most part using better ammo which means better results.
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2013-07-26, 02:58 | Link #534 | |
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Is there a way we can cause the Ruitare's own shell to shatter and spread into tiny sharp, superstrong fragments to rip up nearby BETA? HESH rounds don't do the trick. any other ideas?
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2013-07-26, 07:02 | Link #535 | |
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As for blowing up the shell, I'd love to be able to do that, but I have a feeling the explosives needed to pull that off mean we have a negative return on investment.
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2013-07-26, 08:06 | Link #536 |
Lumine Passio
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Just thinking about Lead/Uranium combination. The Uranium would melted the Lead to coated injures, thus render regenerate useless. But of course, it isn't very devastating as fragmented ond.
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2013-07-26, 10:25 | Link #540 |
Truth Martyr
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There's no point using uranium, because it's too fucking radioactive.
You want shit to burn? DU already does the job because it's porphyritic - it burns on contact with air. There's no point in using radioactive materials to poison BETA because you want to kill the motherfuckers NOW, not 30 years later from cancer.
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