2015-01-15, 17:57 | Link #41 | |
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It's been a few loops since the showdown, but Red Robe might think he's got Zorian already by killing the mercenaries. |
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2015-01-15, 18:26 | Link #42 |
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As I stated in my post further up, it's very likely that Red Robe was in a position to know about Zach being put in a loop to further his magic development and took advantage of it for his own gain. That's why I believe that even if people died before the loop started he might have had a hand in it. Basically I don't believe that Red Robe was like Zorian and just sort of stumbled into the time loop situation.
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Just got done binge reading this. I have to say I really like it. There's some definite Dungeons and Dragons going on here though (some terms are really specific to the old 2nd edition pen and paper books, which my name comes from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Greyhawk_deities#B).
But more importantly this is a better version of what Edge of Tomorrow wanted to be. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1631867/ The main character isn't a pansy or idiot like Tom Cruise's character was. And he's learning actual skills instead of just straight up rote memorization. Which is something Tom Cruise did way too much in that movie. Quote:
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2015-02-10, 17:30 | Link #45 | |
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The other started as unlucky reporter in front line without any battle experience. Of course he was idiot and cowards at the start of the movie but that was the whole point of the story. By the way, Edge of Tomorrow original story was different from the novel. They western the story and add happy ending since it will sell more like that in USA market They even change novel name "All You Need Is Kill" to Edge of tomorrow to be clear about that from the beginning. __________________________________ With that out of the way, this novel is pretty interesting, if I have to say, I though it was translated light novel at the beginning |
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2015-02-11, 14:40 | Link #49 |
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Finally got around to reading the latest chapter.
Most important points are... 1. Zorian now has access to Zach's location at all times as long as he is in Eldemar. 2. He now has access to some books detailing some heavy-duty illegal combat magic. 3. He now has a workable plan to defend himself from soul magic. 4. The merchant Zorian was going to spy on is involved in the invasion somehow. Now all that's needed is to spend a good 4-6 months learning what he can from Alanic and Lukav and polishing his mind reading. Then he can retry the spy mission on the merchant and follow where that leads. Alternatively, he can also track down another Aranea community before doing the cloak and dagger thing. |
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2015-02-11, 14:57 | Link #51 | |
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Frankly, if Red Robe was in the loop from the beginning he would be a much better mage. He's good, but no match for even Zach much less the lich. Considering Zach pretty much started from zero while Red Robe seems to be an older man, that seems to me like he joined the loop after it had already been going for a while. |
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2015-02-11, 15:09 | Link #52 | |
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But no what I meant was that if Red Robe had the same marker as Zorian and Zach then he should have been able to easily locate both of them, the fact that he didn't indicates he can't find them easily if they both go off the radar and all he would need to do is find Zach to learn about Zorian with how easily Red Robe can take care of him.
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Also, I'm pretty sure it was stated, last chapter even, that only his personality may have been affected, and that's a long shot too, cuz it would have been anyways, lol. |
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2015-02-11, 16:19 | Link #57 | |
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2015-02-11, 17:13 | Link #58 |
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After the last run in with Red Robe and Zach, I kinda think Red Robe might be pulling an aranea spider in that he's 3rd party time looper. But it may only be offensive.
I just can't imagine that of all the looper's involved that Zorian is both the smartest and most methodical. So how about this theory: The beginning of each loop starts off with Zach's gaurdian trying to either read or destroy his mind. Which is why there's the scuffle each time. |
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Honestly, we don't have enough information on who Red Cloak could be to make educated guesses about him/her. We can do the WMG Game all we like, and hit
five different future plot points, none of which related to Red Cloak. But, hey, if we've started the Red Cloak WMG Game, I don't see a reason why I shouldn't participate. 1. Red Cloak's actually the first person to know about the Time Loop, and thus has been in it for longer than Zack. However, unlike Zorian and Zack, Red Cloak's Soul isn't taken back in time, only his mind/memories are, so he doesn't get the Shaping Skill/Magic Power increases of Zorian and Zack. Zack, meanwhile, was brought into the loop by Red Cloak, who was looking for a way to improve himself while in the time loop. Red Cloak still doesn't have the spell on him, however, as he can't find a way to cast it on himself, and was spending his time trying to work out a way to get his entire soul sent through. Spoiler for Primordials:
3. Red Cloak was the person who accidentally made the Time Loop, and Zack was supposed to be a sacrifice for the spell. Spell goes haywire, Zack gets a part of the spell that send his soul back, Red Cloak's mind Hitch-Hike's back on the spell on Zack. 4. The one Zorian seems to currently believe. Zack's the centrepoint of the spell, and it was created for his benefit. Only Zack gets to benefit from the spell, because REASONS, before Red Cloak is invited in and wipes Zack's mind of the event. The Zorian enters the Time Loop due to the Lich. 5. Number 4, but Red Cloak is Veyers Boranova. If you don't remember who that is from the name (I don't blame you), it's the person who WAS in Zorian's class, until he lashed out in rage at a disciplinary hearing and got expelled. He was mentioned in chapter 2 and hasn't been mentioned again. I'm mentioning this possibility because while the character's been mentioned, we have no idea what he's doing and the "angry at being expelled" could be the reason why he's happy to see what might be his home town be smashed by the invaders. That said, I don't think it's likely. I am currently supporting the suspicion that Veyers is currently with Zorian's brother, Daimen, so that Zorian will have two people he actively dislikes and doesn't really want to be around when he actually goes to see Daimen (which I suspect is inevitable, but won't be for a while). If it looks like I'm trying to promote the idea that Red Cloak has been in the Time Loop as long/longer than Zack, without as much benefit, there's a reason for that. I don't like how many questions there are in option 4, it doesn't seem to fit this type of story as anything more than a red herring. Questions like "How did he persuade Zack to let him into the loop? How did Zack forget everything that would have likely taken numerous repeats of the time loop to get him to enter? Why is he working for the Invader's, seemingly willingly?" |
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Since now the Red Cloak knows there's a third time traveler, wouldn't the events of not being able to assassinate Lukav and Alanic be a trigger for him to come to the vicinity? If I assume they both die every loop if Zorian didn't interfere on this particular loop. That being said, will he have enough time to learn what he's learning for the next few restarts or will Alanic be permanently dead the next time?
Also, that little girl with the bicycle in the original cycle and the cat that replaced her spot in one of the loops. Will they play a part in this I wonder. |
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