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mid 18th century : C.P.E. Bach, Gluck, Salieri --- Rococo 1750 ~ 1827: Mozart, Haydn, Beethoven, Salieri --- Classical 19th century: Weber, Mendelssohn, Liszt, Schubert, Schumann, Wagner, Brahms, Bruckner, Mahler, Verdi --- Romantic Above is brief summary of what you will see in Music History text books ( I have not added many other important composers for sake of brevity, so please don't burn me for not mentioning them ). When people say Classical Music, various definition exists. Take your pick 1. Music composed for art sake, not according to some commercial model ( Yeah. Tell that to Bach and Haydn who wrote in their complaints about money into their music ) 2. Music that requires some formal education to compose and play ( Cannot apply to pre-Rennaissance Music ) 3. Music that requires some contemplations to enjoy ( I believe they mean you need to do more than just listen to enjoy classical music, but how can you explain my son liking Mozart's Magic Flute Opera, even though he can't talk! ) 4. Music composed in European tradition dating back to Greek music to current academic music composition ( I believe this is the closest to what people expect, but still, it is not a clear cut definition ) 5. Music that some snobs who consider themselves to be above most people talks about in order to show off ( Sometimes, this is true ) 6. Music that is composed in order to be played by any musician willing to study the score ( This is actually the biggest difference between classical music and pop music. In popular/commercial music, the music is supposed to be played by certain person/group, and any one else playing that music is mere copy. In classical music, there is no such thing as the real player and copies, although some musicians do try to imitate peculiarities that another famous musician introduced into playing that certain piece. As long as you pay for the music score, you are legally allowed to perform classical music composed by someone who is alive, right now, to earn some money. In popular music, you cannot play any music to make money unless you get explicit permission from whomever holding the copyright. Of course, this definition is ignoring long tradition of improvisations, cadenzas, and additional decorations by classical music performers. ) 7. Who cares! If I say it is classical, it is calssical!
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Debussy and Ravel are classified as French Impressionist. Rachmaninoff is classified as late Romantic era composer. All three were active during late 19th century to early 20th century, so in broader sense, they can all be classified as Romantic era composers. To classify them as classical music composer would be using one of the 7 even broader definition I have listed above.
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I'm probably going to be hung for this, but I prefer Richard Wagner (Yeah the Nazi Icon and noted Germanic supremacists music). Now the person in question I don't care for, but if you've ever seen Legend of The Galactic Heroes you'd know why he is one of the best opera composers that ever lived.
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From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wagner The twentieth century harmonic revolutions of Claude Debussy and Arnold Schoenberg (tonal and atonal modernism, respectively) have often been traced back to Tristan. Wagner's concept of leitmotif and integrated musical expression has been a strong influence on many 20th century film scores such as John Williams' music for Star Wars.
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My favorate composer is Tchaikovsky and beethoven in romantic period, and carl orff in mordern period.but I dont like baroque music that much,I feel sleepy if not irritated when ever i hear them |
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John Williams made many 'formal classical' compositions, and he does know Gustav Holst's work very well.
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The 'duel of fate' music played on darth maul's entery is spine chilling and the music played on geonosis battle is awsome. I think duel of fate is more influenced by carl orff's music rather than wagner or gustav.Really plenty of anime music(also movie,games etc)are based on carl orff's music.but i havint seen anyone pointing out carl orff anywere on this forum .and Tchaikovsky also. |
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Although I'm glad Tchaikovsky's 4th symphony finally got its exposure to mass media from Suzumiya Haruhi Ep. 12 ' the day of Saggitarius', I still am puzzled why nobody used the grand opening in its 1st movement, yet. Someone will do it, some day, and will receive lot of praise for it.
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I am a sucker for any piano concertos. I watched the first and second Rachmaninov concertos being played live a few years back. I think I literally went into a trance. When I can't sleep, I put on Rachmaninov. If anyone can recommend some piano concertos similar to Rachmaniov's, that'd be great. Also, I don't know if anyone has heard Neon Genesis Evangelion - The Birthday of Rei Ayanami (link). The style of music on that really appeals to me too. What type is it? |
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I don't see the anime Corda D'Oro (Kin-iro no Corda) mentioned in this thread. It just includes bits of some well-known concert pieces, but they seem fairly well played to me, and it really conveys a love of music. Or I should say "conveyed" since the broadcasts just ended. I don't think there is a sub. It's a shoujo reverse harem in which the main girl gets a magic violin and takes part in a competition with several talented boys at a high school specializing in music. After the end credits of each episode there is a little bit of music education for children. I think this show is going to encourage some kids to play -- or to keep playing.
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I just want to say that almost everything wontaek says about Corda D'Oro is true, yet it didn't impair my enjoyment of it in the least. It's not a somewhat realistic show for older teens and adults, like Nodame, it's a fantasy show for young teen girls. And I thought it did its job well enough -- particularly in the emotions and in the way the characters showed enjoyment of music -- to please even some of us who are not in the target audience. Perhaps most of you in this thread are, like wontaek, too mature and knowledgeable to be pleased, but it worked for me. I was even moved by some of the performances, at least in the context of the show. But I just posted about it because I thought you should know about any anime that has a relation to classical music.
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Speaking of shows with much classical music in it, I wonder how people feel about the series that elevated use of classical music in the first place, the Legend of Galactic Hero. I still think the first OVA of LoGH features the best use of Ravel's Bolero I have ever experienced. Yes, there are elements in the show that reminds me of Nazi, but still there were much enjoyable elements in the show as well as great classical music.
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Glorious Bach Music, Played and Sung by Japanese Ensemble, Wows Audiences in Germany
My favorite composer has long been the German Baroque composer Johann Sebastian Bach (1685-1750), whom many consider the greatest composer in the history of Western music.
His monumental Mass in B Minor (H-Moll-Messe) may be the greatest work of Christian sacred music ever written. Because it is Holy Week this week, Bach's sacred and religious music are particularly appropriate during this most solemn, and ultimately joyous, season on the Christian calendar. Bach's St. Matthew Passion (Matthäuspassion) and St. John Passion (Johannespassion), the two extant passions out of the purportedly five he composed, and his Easter Oratorio (Oster-Oratorium) suit this time of year very well. When I moved away from classical music several years ago, Englishman Sir John Eliot Gardiner's Monteverdi Choir & English Baroque Soloists, Dutchman Ton Koopman's Amsterdam Baroque Orchestra & Choir, and Belgian Philippe Herreweghe's Collegium Vocale Gent & La Chapelle Royale ranked among the leading HIP (historically informed performance) choral and instrumental ensembles of Baroque music. And they still are. When I came back to classical music recently, another ensemble had joined their ranks: Bach Collegium Japan, founded and conducted by Japanese Masaaki Suzuki. Suzuki's Bach Collegium Japan has since become my favorite choral and instrumental ensemble. Their singing and playing are unsurpassed. I love the heavenly, angelic sound of their adult mixed choir - beautiful, radiant and pure, with great diction and oustanding intonation, just perfect for Baroque choral music. The internationally acclaimed, widely praised Bach Collegium Japan under Masaaki Suzuki won a Cannes Classical Award in 2000 for their superb 1998 recording, released in 1999 on the Swedish label BIS, of the St. John Passion by Johann Sebastian Bach. Many regard the ongoing Bach Collegium Japan series of the Bach cantatas - most, but not all, are sacred and religious in nature - to be the finest on record. In his August 18, 2005 article for the highly respected, high brow, German nationwide weekly newspaper Die Zeit, "The Meistersingers from Tokyo: Conductor Masaaki Suzuki and his Japanese Bach Collegium left audiences speechless in a recent tour of Germany," Die Zeit journalist Wolfram Goertz writes: Quote:
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There is a really interesting, well-written, article about an experiment conducted in Washington. The world famous violinist Joshua Bell, who plays to sold out crowds, on a violin worth millions, took his stuff to a Washington subway and pretended to be a street musician. Here's the result:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...hpid=features1
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