Anime DVD/BD Sales in Japan: Discussion

[relentlessflame]

Originally Posted by Kaioshin Sama

Another 300 unit dropoff for Accel World eh? At this rate the final volume will be lucky to clear over 5,000 units and the idea of a second season might just end up a fleeting dream. Bet the producers are kicking themselves for not adding in more fanservice early on in the shows run. Really it only started to come into play in the second quarter while the first was mostly game and world building focused. Guess we'll see with the next volume since it contains bathing scenes.

I don't think more fanservice would necessarily have saved it, as there are plenty of fanservice shows with worse sales. Plus, these are only first-week sales, and we should continue to see a bit of second-week sales push it up a bit further. It's still over 8k total, which is quite good. As Westlo said, drop-off like this is extremely common (basically the rule, with only a few exceptions each season).

[onetwothree]

Originally Posted by relentlessflame

Plus, these are only first-week sales, and we should continue to see a bit of second-week sales push it up a bit further. It's still over 8k total, which is quite good. As Westlo said, drop-off like this is extremely common (basically the rule, with only a few exceptions each season).

I think he was only comparing first week sales to first week sales. By that measure, it dropped 6%. Which is not bad, no. Normal dropoff from the first volume after three volumes is 16% (average), 17% (median). Accel World is down 11.6% (comparing only first week) and 22.5% (totals). If it adds about 650 units next week, it'll be off 16.3%, dead center of normal.

[ahelo]

If in the end, AW's last volume would be about 5K, that's still fairly good if you add it all up (and way better than a lot of stuff that aired in spring and summer).

[onetwothree]

Originally Posted by ahelo

If in the end, AW's last volume would be about 5K, that's still fairly good if you add it all up (and way better than a lot of stuff that aired in spring and summer).

Only if the volume on volume decline accelerates. If it stays at exactly 6% first week like 1→2 and 2→3 it would look like:
Volume 3: 8079
Volume 4: 7594
Volume 5: 7138
Volume 6: 6710
Volume 7: 6308
Volume 8: 5929
Assuming the DVD version continues to chart (very likely). I figure sales will bottom out at some point (maybe 6700 first week) and later volumes will decline less than 6% from the previous.

[hyl]

I am actually curious to know how many BD discs Koichoco sold, seeing that anything under 3k wasn't mentioned.

[onetwothree]

Originally Posted by hyl

I am actually curious to know how many BD discs Koichoco sold, seeing that anything under 3k wasn't mentioned.

Won't find out until the complete list is released later this week. Only partial data is released on Tuesdays.

[Marcus H.]

Stalker Points time!

***,*50位/***,*49位 ★ (**3,195 pt) To Love-Ru Darkness
***,*58位/***,*59位 ★ (**1,763 pt) Jojo
***,*67位/***,*66位 ★ (**1,971 pt) LB!
***,*70位/***,*72位 ★ (**1,276 pt) Chuunibyou
***,149位/***,156位 ★ (***,771 pt) Hidamari Sketch
***,203位/***,199位 ★ (***,287 pt) Girls und Panzer
***,306位/***,297位 ★ (***,207 pt) Sakurasou no Pet na Kanojo
***,324位/***,345位 ★ (***,216 pt) Kaibutsu-kun
***,329位/***,323位 ★ (***,230 pt) Busou Shinki
***,367位/***,364位 ★ (***,545 pt) Jormungand
***,482位/***,477位 ★ (***,448 pt) K
***,617位/***,598位 ★ (***,*49 pt) Ixion Saga DT
***,879位/***,872位 ★ (***,204 pt) Oniichan Dakedo Ai Sae Areba Kankei Nai yo ne—
**1,059位/**1,031位 ★ (***,*87 pt) Kami-sama Hajimemashita
**1,066位/**1,058位 ★ (***,156 pt) Shin Sekai Yori
**1,847位/**1,843位 ★ (***,*67 pt) Zetsuen no Tempest
**2,195位/**2,154位 ★ (***,104 pt) Code Breaker
**2,397位/**2,321位 ★ (***,*18 pt) Sukitte Ii na yo!
**3,587位/**3,519位 ★ (***,*65 pt) Medaka Box
**3,631位/**3,655位 ★ (***,108 pt) BTOOOM
**5,992位/**5,913位 ★ (***,*78 pt) Hiiro no Kakera

[FlavoryFantasy]

From MAL via Oricon. For week of Oct. 22 - 28

Blu-ray
*1, 29,757 29,757 Strike Witches The Movie Limited Edition
*2, 27,326 27,326 Sword Art Online vol.1 Limited Edition
*3, 18,033 18,033 Kyoukaisenjou no Horizon II vol.2 Limited Edition
*4, *9,176 *9,176 Kuroko no Basket vol.4
*5, *6,577 *6,577 Hyouka vol.5 Limited Edition
*6, *6,380 *6,380 Accel World vol.4 Limited Edition
*7, *5,525 *5,525 Dog Days' vol.2 Limited Edition
*8, *4,688 *4,688 Haiyore! Nyaruko-san vol.5 Limited Edition
*9, *4,392 *4,392 Guilty Crown vol.10 Limited Edition
10, *4,235 *4,235 Muv-Luv Alternative: Total Eclipse vol.2 Limited Edition
11, *4,179 *4,179 (Yuru Yuri ♪♪ Live Event 2)
12, *3,774 *3,774 Aquarion Evol vol.7
13, *3,482 *3,482 Joshiraku vol.2 Limited Edition


DVD
*1, 10,872 10,872 Kuroko no Basket vol.4
*2, *6,844 *6,844 Sword Art Online vol.1 Limited Edition
*3, *4,227 *4,227 Strike Witches The Movie Limited Edition
*4, *3,709 *3,709 New Prince of Tennis vol.4
*5, *3,263 *3,263 Hakuouki Reimeiroku vol.2 Limited Edition
*6, *2,674 *2,674 Tales of Symphonia The Animation: Sekai Tougou-hen vol.3 Limited Edition
*7, *1,958 *1,958 Dog Days' vol.2 Limited Edition
*8, *1,927 *1,927 Bleach Shingami Daiko Shoshitsu Hen vol.3
*9, *1,801 *1,801 Marmalade Boy DVD Box
10, *1,715 *1,715 Arcana Famiglia vol.2 Limited Edition
11, *1,564 *1,564 Momo e no Tegami
12, *1,419 *1,419 Accel World vol.4 Limited Edition
13, *1,247 *1,247 Tsuritama vol.5 Limited Edition
14, *1,202 *1,202 Guilty Crown vol.10 Limited Edition
15, *1,081 *1,081 One Piece Jidaigeki Special
16, *1,070 *1,070 Aquarion Evol vol.7
17, *1,021 *1,021 Hiiro no Kakera vol.5
18, *1,018 *1,018 Hyouka vol.5 Limited Edition
19, **,982 **,982 Haiyore! Nyaruko-san vol.5 Limited Edition
20, **,930 **,930 Queen's Blade: Rebellion vol.5
21, **,902 **,902 Shirokuma Cafe vol.4
22, **,862 **,862 Smile Precure! vol.5
23, **,811 **,811 Toriko & One Piece Collaboration
24, **,808 **,808 Muv-Luv Alternative: Total Eclipse vol.2 Limited Edition
25, **,768 **,768 Chouyaku Hyakuninisshu: Uta Koi. vol.2 Limited Edition
26, **,706 **,706 Joshiraku vol.2 Limited Edition

[Last Sinner]

Stalker overestimated SAO numbers by about 5k. 34k is still quite a good result. The amount of Asuna merchandise and the game will be big revenue raisers as well. Whether those numbers remain around 30k or so for the long run will be interesting.

F/Z S2 went to 44k? Not as big a drop-off as some were predicting in various places, so that's a good result for ufotable.

[onetwothree]

Originally Posted by Last Sinner

F/Z S2 went to 44k? Not as big a drop-off as some were predicting in various places, so that's a good result for ufotable.

45,804 total, a drop of 10.78%. Indeed, not bad.

[edujude]

Hi! Where can I find an updated list of 歴代累計平均ランキング（テレビアニメ) (集計期間1988年頃～2012年12月24日付速報) that extends beyond 50 places? The list at http://www38.atwiki.jp/uri-archive/pages/75.html lists only 50 titles, including OVAs. Is there still an updated list that goes down to anime with average sales of 10000 copies?

[relentlessflame]

Originally Posted by edujude

Hi! Where can I find an updated list of 歴代累計平均ランキング（テレビアニメ) (集計期間1988年頃～2012年12月24日付速報) that extends beyond 50 places? The list at http://www38.atwiki.jp/uri-archive/pages/75.html lists only 50 titles, including OVAs. Is there still an updated list that goes down to anime with average sales of 10000 copies?

You can find some related information in the Cumulative Reports thread. It's not presented in quite that format, but you'll find a lot of information there.

[Marcus H.]

Winter 2012 Pre-Orders

***,*17位/***,*17位: Nekomonogatari Kuro (38,417pt)

[37,291-point gap]

***,*41位/***,*40位: Maoyuu Maou Yuusha (1,126pt)
***,*60位/***,*59位: Love Live (1,434pt)
***,*99位/***,*97位: Boku wa Tomodachi ga Sukunai NEXT (517pt)
***,118位/***,114位: Tamako Market (391pt)
***,138位/***,138位: Minami-ke (492pt)
***,191位/***,184位: Oreshura (355pt)
***,247位/***,276位: Kotoura-san (63pt)
***,267位/***,262位: Senran Kagura (488pt)
***,352位/***,355位: Puchimas! (1,164pt)
***,407位/***,450位: Sasami-san@Ganbaranai (138pt)
***,425位/***,443位: Da Capo III (299pt)
***,747位/***,723位: Hakkenden (283pt)
**1,007位/***,971位: AMNESIA (94pt)
**1,030位/**1,001位: Mondaiji-tachi (181pt)
**1,369位/**1,321位: GJ-Bu (109pt)
**2,988位/**2,849位: Cuticle Tantei Inaba (89pt)

The Bakemonogatari series proves yet again why it is the bakemono among anime series.

Temporal Blu-ray + DVD Rankings for Fall 2012 (First Volumes Only Except Stated Otherwise)

*1, 16,782 *1 Chuunibyou demo Koi ga Shitai!
*2, 16,155 *1 Girls und Panzer
*3, 12,409 *1 To LOVE-Ru Darkness
*4, 11,723 *1 Gintama' Enchousen
*5, 11,036 *1 Little Busters!

-----------------10000 Line------------------------

*6. *9,690 *1 Hidamari Sketch x Honeycomb
*7, *7,659 *1 Psycho-Pass
*8, *7,503 *3 K
*9, *5,787 *1 Kami-sama Hajimemashita

-----------------Manabi Line (2,899)----------------

10, *2,497 *0 Onii-chan Dakedo Ai Sae Areba Kankenai yo ne
11, *2,494 *1 Tonari no Kaibutsu-kun
12, *2,392 *1 Jormungand Perfect Order
13, *2,184 *0 Busou Shinki
14, *1,759 *1 Ixion Sage DT

--------------Anime Saving Line (883) ---------------

15, **,594 *0 Shinsekai Yori [VOL 2 DATA]
**,*** *0 BTOOOM!
**,*** *0 Code:Breaker
**,*** *0 Hayate no Gotoku! Can't Take My Eyes Off You
**,*** *0 Sukitte Ii na yo

[Kanon]

Hidamari Sketch is a stable series as usual. There's a good chance we'll see a fifth season with those numbers (plus Shaft loves it).

To Love-ru darkness is selling a lot better than I thought it would. Airing it censored heavily on TV apparently paid off.

[Reckoner]

Very sad day for anime when Shinsekai Yori can't even reach 1000 volumes.

[Xellos-_^]

Originally Posted by Reckoner

Very sad day for anime when Shinsekai Yori can't even reach 1000 volumes.

i like the anime concept but it probably would have work better as a movie or oav then a long series.

[Kirayuki]

Surprised to see Little Busters! doing so well.

[Klashikari]

Originally Posted by Reckoner

Very sad day for anime when Shinsekai Yori can't even reach 1000 volumes.

Genre and plot notwithstanding, the fact the BD/DVD bring little to no actual content over the TV ver, nor ANY Sakuga/animation enhancement are a glaring deterrent for such expensive purchase. BD and DVD are basically a meaningful purchase that are the main support to the industry, but also a token of pride and collection. So having physical copies that are basically the carbon copy of what you got from your recorder obviously tone done the meaningfulness of such purchase.

Originally Posted by Kirayuki

Surprised to see Little Busters! doing so well.

LB results are... "quite big" considering the adaptation, but on its own as a very well known franchise, it is quite a lukewarm result, not on par with Kanon and Clannad, despite the huge fanbase. Whether or not it is because of the adaptation or other issues is a different story.

[Triple_R]

Originally Posted by Reckoner

Very sad day for anime when Shinsekai Yori can't even reach 1000 volumes.

I didn't expect Shinsekai Yori to sell that well. The lack of a catchy OP, the fact that it's a shippers nightmare, the darker tone of the work, the very unusual setting, these are all negatives for it as far as being a marketable anime property is concerned (their worth at a purely creative level may be different, of course).

However, it is disappointing to see it bomb that badly.

Originally Posted by Kirayuki

Surprised to see Little Busters! doing so well.

It's Key. Anything less than 10 K would have been a disaster, imo.

[Xion Valkyrie]

Originally Posted by Triple_R

I didn't expect Shinsekai Yori to sell that well. The lack of a catchy OP, the fact that it's a shippers nightmare, the darker tone of the work, the very unusual setting, these are all negatives for it as far as being a marketable anime property is concerned (their worth at a purely creative level may be different, of course).

However, it is disappointing to see it bomb that badly.

Should have upped the ecchiness to 11.