2008-05-13, 17:24 | Link #1041 |
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You give one area a SAZ, and all the others will want one too, right? If it works out alright for Britannia, I don't see why they wouldn't let it expand to other areas as well, using Japan as a model.
I mean, all this posturing about having to take down the Emperor or him shutting everything down is kinda baseless, isn't it? The Emperor's been shown to not be an especially bigoted or prejudiced guy. If it works, it works, right? Just like Lelouch. Seriously, Wakamoto's got bigger fish to fry than picking on a couple conquered nations. He's after the gods. If an SAZ is what it takes to settle everything down and move his resources to where he needs them, then why not? Just like Schniezel. |
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2008-05-13, 18:26 | Link #1044 | |
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2008-05-13, 19:24 | Link #1049 |
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sorry, was that a confirmation translated from Japanese? In that case, could you also check the second part of my quote where Suzaku says 'I was going to commit patricide'? Because both of those lines indicate that Suzaku seperated from Lelouch before he killed his father. The picture book is a bit confusing because earlier on Suzaku also refers to the patricide as in the past, when he says "I made it so. I couldn't turn back. If I hadn't killed my father on that day, all those people wouldn't have had to die." But I took the two mentions of his plans later on to indicate that it was indeed a premeditated act.
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2008-05-13, 19:30 | Link #1050 | |
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2008-05-13, 19:32 | Link #1051 | |
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The whole thing shows only that he killed his father, and has no mention of whether it was premeditated. However, the overall atmosphere leads one to believe that it was not somethng planned. It seems that the hate for Suzaku has turned some people to think of our poor guy as some murderous, backstabbing evil character. |
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2008-05-13, 19:44 | Link #1053 |
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Here's the quote again, important parts in bold:
"I should have spoken to you. I should have told you what I was going to do. That's what I thought...but at that moment, I couldn't bring myself to say it. Maybe that was why, when you said those words, I somehow felt a feeling of salvation." "Suzaku...Suzaku...I...will destroy Britannia!" "Then I felt a tinge of sorrow in me. I could not answer your pledge to me. I was going to commit patricide. Perhaps it was the wrong answer. I know. I knew full well. But..." And no, I don't hate Suzaku, far from it. I'm actually quite a vocal supporter for him, as you might see throughout the earlier parts of this thread. Lowell1025, I'm a bit surprised. I was thinking you'd been making somewhat enlightened posts in the philosophy and Turn 06 threads but if a mere planned patricide can set off your moral outrage radar than I may have to reconsider that perception. |
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I think KSJ answered it with that quote "That I killed my father."
I don't quite get how some people can support him since Taniguchi has been making it clear that he is not really the sort of person you should like.
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2008-05-13, 19:52 | Link #1056 |
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o_O wow, really? That totally changes the meaning of the scene. Heh, I guess gg weren't kidding when they said their season one subs were crap (sorry, is that allowed? mentioning the sub group, I mean. If not, I'll edit this.). Not quite sure what to believe anymore.
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2008-05-13, 19:55 | Link #1058 | |
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2008-05-13, 19:57 | Link #1060 |
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Does he literally say that he purposefully tried to make Suzuku unlikable? Or is that the assumption that most people make based on his actions and personality? I mean, in the show there seems to be plenty of people who like him, such as the student government, gino, Nunually, Lelouch used to, Todou seems to be slightly supportive of him or at least truly understands him. Most of the people who really dislike him are usually his enemies anyway in one form or another.
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