To Aru Majutsu no Index - Anime General Discussion [NO SPOILERS]

[mit2591]

i am actually curious if touma's hand negates any thing magical or supernatural and even his own good luck as speculated by index in the first episode does it negate his own life force?may be each time he uses his power his life shortens.
Besides so far in the anime all esper user or magic user has only used their right hand to use their power.why only one hand and only right hand?can't they channel their power through their both hands?a magic user like Stiyl if uses his both hands will not he be able to produce double amount of flame?

[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by mit2591

i am actually curious if touma's hand negates any thing magical or supernatural and even his own good luck as speculated by index in the first episode does it negate his own life force?may be each time he uses his power his life shortens.

Well if that's true, then the situation might be worse than you think because his ability is always on... Whether he uses it to negate magic or not, it's powerwith always be there.

Originally Posted by mit2591

Besides so far in the anime all esper user or magic user has only used their right hand to use their power.why only one hand and only right hand?can't they channel their power through their both hands?a magic user like Stiyl if uses his both hands will not he be able to produce double amount of flame?

This is just me, but I don't think there's any special meaning to it It's probably because they're all right-handed so it's only natural for them to use their right hand...

Psychic, and most likely magic as well, comes from the brain, not the hand.

Touma is just one of the more unique cases.

[mit2591]

lol..yeah that may be the most possible answer.but well if they can channel their power through their both hand simultaneously will not people like misaka or Stiyl be able to produce double amount of power..

[tzia_n]

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

Look, I'm just going to be repeating myself here so I'll just drop it

Monologues actually... Meaning what Touma was thinking to himself.

the monologues might have offered what i was looking for, namely something clearer for me as to show the development of their relationship.

but yeah, i'm fine with dropping the issue. the topic was neither important nor going anywhere. just something to pass the time i suppose

Originally Posted by mit2591

i am actually curious if touma's hand negates any thing magical or supernatural and even his own good luck as speculated by index in the first episode does it negate his own life force?may be each time he uses his power his life shortens.

so i suppose he should be doing bad with school work if he writes his answers using his right hand just imagine all the thing he/people can do with his right hand and imagine having immense bad luck in those

[mit2591]

Originally Posted by tzia_n

so i suppose he should be doing bad with school work if he writes his answers using his right hand just imagine all the thing he/people can do with his right hand and imagine having immense bad luck in those

lol..he is already bad with his school work.have you forgotten he had to take extra lesson in the first episode? and for the other things you mentioned i am not that much sure

[tzia_n]

Originally Posted by mit2591

lol..he is already bad with his school work.have you forgotten he had to take extra lesson in the first episode? and for the other things you mentioned i am not that much sure

it just dawned on me how there might be an actual reason to it

[Clarste]

Originally Posted by mit2591

i am actually curious if touma's hand negates any thing magical or supernatural and even his own good luck as speculated by index in the first episode does it negate his own life force?may be each time he uses his power his life shortens.

He doesn't "use" his power at all, from what I understood. It's just passive. If he could turn it off I don't he'd be so depressed about the luck thing. So if it was eating his life he'd be dead by now.

Also, remember it only negates "supernatural" thing. I think if you start to think of life as something supernatural it becomes difficult to imagine what exactly would be natural.

Originally Posted by tzia_n

so i suppose he should be doing bad with school work if he writes his answers using his right hand just imagine all the thing he/people can do with his right hand and imagine having immense bad luck in those

At least part of the curriculum is the training of psychic abilities. Considering that he has zero (measurable) psychic abilities, and even if he could bend spoons he'd negate it with his hand, I got the impression that he was completely failing his psychic tests, and merely average for normal stuff. They haven't made a point that he's particularly stupid or lazy anyway.

[Niu]

On what Imagine Breaker erase and it don't

Spoiler:

As far as I have gathered, life won't be erased by Imagine Killer. Or else Touma would be killing whoever he touches. As for chimyaku or ryumyaku, Imagine Breaker won't damage them. But however, Imagine breaker does erase Telasma, which is source for Ley lines and supernatural powers.

And I have to poke on this

Originally Posted by orion

Her blade is too long. She needs distance and time to swing it unless it's a short blade in a long scabard. Those wires are in case someone is gifted enough to get within her weak zone. So basically, she has no short range defensive capabilities and had to cheat with wires.

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

I don't think so...
The way she says it, Nanasen is her primary attack while her Katana is the one they would have to face if they got pass it.

Kaori's fighting style is Amakusa style, which uses deception. Alternating between wire-katana wire-magic is part of it. One attack is to cover up another or to distract you. Though using Shichitanshchitou is definitely saved for the last, it is saved for when all her other tricks failed.
And if you want details on how they work....

Spoiler:

Nanasen attacks through wires, but makes you mistaken it as an iai by moving Shichitenshichitou slightly at the same time. And if you get pass the wire, the wires themselves can reform into 3D magic circles and smash you with magic. And even you get into the front of her, you have to deal with her Yuisan. It is an iai arts that combines with Christian, Buddhist, and Shinto magic all in one, and requires Kaori using her power as a Saint. In other words, this attack is EXTREMELY powerful but also very costly and exhaust Kaori fast. Basically, it is not that Kaori have no close combat skills, but rather, it is something she has to save for the last due to how power consuming and how ridiculously powerful it is. While her wires and magics are good enough to deal with magic foes.

[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by Niu

Kaori's fighting style is Amakusa style, which uses deception. Alternating between wire-katana wire-magic is part of it. One attack is to cover up another or to distract you. Though using Shichitanshchitou is definitely saved for the last, it is saved for when all her other tricks failed.

Yup, so I was right... She was using her Nodachi as a distraction, and a good one really- Who wouldn't be worried about a 2 metre sword

Originally Posted by Niu

And if you want details on how they work....

Spoiler:

Nanasen attacks through wires, but makes you mistaken it as an iai by moving Shichitenshichitou slightly at the same time. And if you get pass the wire, the wires themselves can reform into 3D magic circles and smash you with magic. And even you get into the front of her, you have to deal with her Yuisan. It is an iai arts that combines with Christian, Buddhist, and Shinto magic all in one, and requires Kaori using her power as a Saint. In other words, this attack is EXTREMELY powerful but also very costly and exhaust Kaori fast. Basically, it is not that Kaori have no close combat skills, but rather, it is something she has to save for the last due to how power consuming and how ridiculously powerful it is. While her wires and magics are good enough to deal with magic foes.

There's one thing interesting that I learnt from this-

Spoiler:

So different styles of magic are strongly affiliated with religion? Are there any obvious difference between them?

[tzia_n]

Originally Posted by Niu

On what Imagine Breaker erase and it don't

Spoiler:

As far as I have gathered, life won't be erased by Imagine Killer. Or else Touma would be killing whoever he touches. As for chimyaku or ryumyaku, Imagine Breaker won't damage them. But however, Imagine breaker does erase Telasma, which is source for Ley lines and supernatural powers.

so in layman's terms???

[mit2591]

Originally Posted by Niu

Kaori's fighting style is Amakusa style, which uses deception. Alternating between wire-katana wire-magic is part of it. One attack is to cover up another or to distract you. Though using Shichitanshchitou is definitely saved for the last, it is saved for when all her other tricks failed.
And if you want details on how they work....

Spoiler:

Nanasen attacks through wires, but makes you mistaken it as an iai by moving Shichitenshichitou slightly at the same time. And if you get pass the wire, the wires themselves can reform into 3D magic circles and smash you with magic. And even you get into the front of her, you have to deal with her Yuisan. It is an iai arts that combines with Christian, Buddhist, and Shinto magic all in one, and requires Kaori using her power as a Saint. In other words, this attack is EXTREMELY powerful but also very costly and exhaust Kaori fast. Basically, it is not that Kaori have no close combat skills, but rather, it is something she has to save for the last due to how power consuming and how ridiculously powerful it is. While her wires and magics are good enough to deal with magic foes.

wow!she seems a formidable opponent.i wonder if magic users could be graded like supernatural power users what would be her level?definitely level 5 that's for sure but level 5+ i am not that much sure.

[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by mit2591

wow!she seems a formidable opponent.i wonder if magic users could be graded like supernatural power users what would be her level?definitely level 5 that's for sure but level 5+ i am not that much sure.

Level 5 is the highest possible level that a psychic can reach, in fact there are only seven Level 5 in existence.

Mikoto ranking in number 3.

[serenade_beta]

Originally Posted by mit2591

wow!she seems a formidable opponent.i wonder if magic users could be graded like supernatural power users what would be her level?definitely level 5 that's for sure but level 5+ i am not that much sure.

Mah, if they do volume 4, you will be able to learn (it's explained, really) just how powerful she is (or so they say).

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

Level 5 is the highest possible level that a psychic can reach, in fact there are only seven Level 5 in existence.

Well, technically, the highest level is...

[Chaos2Frozen]

Originally Posted by serenade_beta

Mah, if they do volume 4, you will be able to learn (it's explained, really) just how powerful she is (or so they say).

It could be possible, that is if they have a OP2 by episode 16 or something...

Judging from the speed they're using, how many episodes do you think it would take to animate vol 2 & 3?

[serenade_beta]

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

Judging from the speed they're using, how many episodes do you think it would take to animate vol 2 & 3?

As of now, I would assume the same number of episodes as vol.1 gets. Assuming JC Staff keeps up miraculously following the novel so well.
Mah... I can't really say I'm looking forward to vol.4 even if they do do it. Not just because of Kanzaki, but the damn book contradicts itself again...

[Fynal_Fyre]

Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

It could be possible, that is if they have a OP2 by episode 16 or something...

Judging from the speed they're using, how many episodes do you think it would take to animate vol 2 & 3?

Oh serenade, stop cockteasing.

Also, IIRC, Index moved real quick (they covered an entire volume already?) in just episodes 1-4.

[serenade_beta]

Originally Posted by Fynal_Fyre

Also, IIRC, Index moved real quick (they covered an entire volume already?) in just episodes 1-4.

No, they are still on volume 1. It will take 1-2 more episodes to complete it. And then the anime will move onto volume 2... I think.

[tzia_n]

Originally Posted by serenade_beta

No, they are still on volume 1. It will take 1-2 more episodes to complete it. And then the anime will move onto volume 2... I think.

you're not that sure?

[serenade_beta]

Originally Posted by tzia_n

you're not that sure?

Well, the manga skipped the volume entirely (poor Himegami *laugh*), so the anime might have placed them in the OP, but actually skip them as a way to trick viewers...
Which isn't a serious thought.
They appeared in the OP, so they will get the little time they get.

That, and I'm hoping the Railgun manga or something like that will be added in between vol.1-2.

[MrTerrorist]

Originally Posted by serenade_beta

That, and I'm hoping the Railgun manga or something like that will be added in between vol.1-2.

Indeed. Can't wait to see BiriBiri and her gang (Kuroko, Kazari & Saten) lovable wacky adventures.