2013-05-08, 22:13 | Link #521 | |
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2013-05-08, 22:34 | Link #522 | |
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If the villain "isn't following the hero's doctrine" like...oh, I don't know, BY KILLING INNOCENT PEOPLE.....I fail to see why this is a bad/annoying thing. Why shouldn't characters try to stop others from doing evil!? Evil isn't a matter of opinion here. It's regarded as wrong to kill, wrong to steal, wrong to make others suffer, etc. They don't have their "own religion". They are following the basic morals of humanity. They won't have all the answers right away (that turns them into a Mary-Sue). But the point is, they are trying to do good. Far better role models for kids than selfish and apathetic characters who sit back while terrible things happen and go "...not my problem!"
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2013-05-08, 23:33 | Link #523 | |
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And I can hardly recall any of these “heroes” exterminating their foes just for the happiness of a girl. Most of the time, the villains got exterminated because they have devilish plan that will hurt (a lot of) innocent people too. That’s why the “heroes” took them down. As ridiculous as Emiya Shiro’s altruism get, when he’s fighting Caster, a wizard who use her magic to absorb mana/prana from a lot of innocent people to their death, I can hardly protest when he wanted to stop her and maybe smack some sense into her in the process.
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2013-05-11, 18:02 | Link #525 | |
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Telling your enemy what you're going to do to them in excruciating detail is just plain stupid.
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2013-05-11, 18:25 | Link #526 |
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What I dislike is emotional outbursts from the Main Character when something goes wrong. I feel like almost every action and adventure protagonist does this. Sure, it adds a lot of drama element to the story, but it always make me say, are these characters immature brats? Don't get me wrong, I feel that the main character should have a reaction towards things that go wrong, but I feel like the childish emotional outbursts isn't the way to go. I feel like there should be more stern reaction or a monologue in the main characters' head calming having his reaction and smartly thinking of ways to fix the problem.
If such cases, it alright because it fits the Protagonists' personality such as One Piece with Luffy whose personality is child like so its okay in that instance since it made sense like during the time when going to the New World then Nami saying to cut off the fish attached to the ship. Another exception is that it depends on the problem that the main character face, if its big enough where its believable for anyone to lose their cool and perform an emotional outburst than that is okay. Such as Kaze no Stigma with Kazuma when he was speechless of Tsui Ling revival. Last exception is when its a comedy where the emotional outbursts serves to make the viewers laugh and is an important aspect of the story like Beelzebub when Oga Tatsumi utterly shock beyond reason when Hilda's memories were lost and she taken the persona of being his wife. Other than that, that cliche is really getting old. |
2013-05-11, 20:51 | Link #527 | |
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For my own - Cliche: Boy and Girl who knew or met when they were 6, and after being separated for the next 10 years, he/she still holds a candle for the other. Worst offenders: Shuffle! |
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2013-05-12, 17:19 | Link #528 | |
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Heaven forbid the guy changing his mind. And he'd better not have forgotten about it (or her), or there will be hell to pay.
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2013-05-12, 21:14 | Link #529 |
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I think I can agree with you. Probably the biggest offender is Slam Dunk where you have armies of fangirls worshipping one guy. I knew it was played for comedy but it does gave me a bad view towards fanboyism/fangirlism.
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2013-05-12, 21:41 | Link #530 | |
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If not.......it's like....one of them never grew up or something....>_>
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2013-05-13, 02:21 | Link #531 | ||
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It's understandable when people dislike specific childhood friend pairings, but if they dismiss the genre as a whole, without exceptions, that really makes me depressed Last edited by Dwalin; 2013-05-13 at 02:35. |
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2013-05-13, 03:24 | Link #532 |
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People change over time. Stuff like your habits, tastes and beliefs aren't static. Sometimes, that means two people who used to make a great couple are no longer very suited for each other, and both of them realize that.
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2013-05-13, 10:04 | Link #533 | ||
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Plus imagine how many new people you would meet in those 10 years you are separated from your little friend.. 10 years is a REALLY long time...and you're gonna tell me you're going to turn down every single person who asks you out because you still like your six-year-old friend!? People don't do this. Quote:
Now, if the parents decided to engage the children at a young age, THAT is a lot more believable. Because it would have "grounds" to it, and not the type of grounds that are easy to back out of like "oh, we were really young and I forgot" type of grounds. If the child grows up knowing he/she has a fiancee, that would keep him/her from dating other people....as long as they are the loyal type. Match-making is a tricky thing. I'm kind of divided on it. If the characters are teenagers, they should be permitted to marry on their own decision...but if they're really young and are on good terms with their would-be-fiancee....I guess it's okay.....? Spoiler for "Sumomomomo momomo example:
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2013-05-13, 10:17 | Link #534 | |
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And yes, if I fell in love when I was little, I would have turned down everybody else no matter what. I am not sure. I think it's not really wise to engage them without them agreeing because children may develop a brother-sister like bond, not a romantic one. They may start feeling it's like incest. Last edited by relentlessflame; 2013-05-13 at 14:19. |
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2013-05-13, 11:24 | Link #535 | |
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In either case, even if you did, doesn't mean everyone should stick to their old flame, especially when they can't be sure they'll eventually see each other again.
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2013-05-13, 11:54 | Link #536 |
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I refuse to answer this question without my lawyer present
Seriously, I never had the occasion to be tested on that matter as I never fell in love as a child. I understand. What I find sad is that some people think that, if THEY didn't stick to their childhood love, then those who did are retarded or immature. |
2013-05-13, 13:33 | Link #537 | |
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I don't think anyone here was suggesting that. |
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2013-05-13, 13:48 | Link #538 | |
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I must admit I have a personal disdain for extreme busybodies who butt into everyone's business, but humans are social creatures, and it doesn't really work if you just stand around and look out for yourself, as everyone had to be reliant on someone else at some point in life. Let's just use a common example. Signs of domestic violence are viewed. Some people would say "Leave it to their own business". And that's how that crap keeps going on.
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2013-05-13, 13:48 | Link #539 |
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No, and please don't laugh at me for that in case you want to. Until some years ago, I found any kind of romantic stories quite annoying, later I changed my mind, but so far the only ones that manage to make me emotional are the ones about childhood sweethearts.
Here, maybe not. But I saw many people on other forums saying things that carried more or less the message "So they love each other since childhood and never moved on? That stinks!". |
2013-05-13, 14:18 | Link #540 | |
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Spoiler for Annoying childhood friend is annoying in this manga:
Now I find this type of character incredibly unlikable and pathetic to boot. Such clinginess is so childish....you can compare it to a kindergartener who won't give up his security blanket. It feels a lot like a case of emotional retardation, if there is such a thing. A healthy teenager does not act that way....especially a boy. But for a series like Ano Hana, the whole childhood friend=love theme is really really nice.
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