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AC-Phoenix · 2016-09-11, 09:23

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Originally Posted by Alpha Knight

After watching certain scenes, are we sure Munakata's NG is actually "Opening doors"?

I don't know you, but it sounds like a really ineffective and predictable NG for someone like Munakata.

Even if he couldn't open doors, that time when he was after Naegi he could've just asked Juzo who was with him to open it, or even better, just cut the door to pieces. The guy has a katana, for crying out loud. To me it looked more like Munakata was checking the time that was left before the 2th time limit was completed.

Then we have the part where he goes after Naegi and breaks the glass to enter the room. Again, Naegi or any of his friends could've just locked the door.

And now Naegi is headed to confront Munakata who has become an unbeatable monster all by himself. Even if someone goes with him, it wouldn't take Munakata 2 seconds to kill that person.

So it makes more sense that Munakata's NG is actually 'Killing Makoto Naegi'. It's something the killer would do, and is in line with what Munakata told Naegi, about the killer wanting him alive.

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As for Juzo, I wouldn't put it past him to have been the one who killed the guards and Miaya. Monaca couldn't have been, not as Gekkogahara, not as Monaca. She lacks what it takes to perform such an action.

So that would also mean Juzo is secretly in cahoots with the killer, and would also explain why after all that licking Munakata's shoes he tried to get out the moment he was presented with that chance.

My guess goies more to 'Failing to convicne Naegi to Kill himself' - Otherwise he could again just let Juzou do it.

DMurphy · 2016-09-11, 09:49

As far as Munakata not opening doors go, this is the guy who decided to stand on a table instead of sitting down like a normal person, he clearly has a flair for the dramatique that cannot be satisfied by just opening a door with its handle like a normal person.

Homura7 · 2016-09-11, 10:47

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Originally Posted by AC-Phoenix

My guess goies more to 'Failing to convicne Naegi to Kill himself' - Otherwise he could again just let Juzou do it.

Hmm, good guess. A forbidden action like that would have really heavy implications. It would mean Munakata cannot allow anyone to kill Naegi, nor himself, or his NG bracelet would activate.

pervypig · 2016-09-11, 10:58

That's what I had thought about, and had been challenged before about Munakuta throwing his katana after Naegi. Well, the katana may not have been aimed straight at naegi, since he was being carried by Gozu at that time. Also, Munakuta checking his bracelet after throwing the katana may also be interpreted as reminding himself about the danger of killing Naegi.

I mean if we're talking about the chance of Munakuta's NG code being "opening doors" or "killing Naegi", there's almost as many circumstantial evidence on both sides.

Marina2 · 2016-09-11, 11:24

Munakata didn't pick up his sword that was thrown at the door. He waited for Juzo to pull it out and returned to him. That was very strange.

Homura7 · 2016-09-11, 12:01

He just has flair, and a certain habit to let others do stuff for him.

Gan_HOPE326 · 2016-09-11, 15:37

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Originally Posted by Marina2

Munakata didn't pick up his sword that was thrown at the door. He waited for Juzo to pull it out and returned to him. That was very strange.

If his NG code is not to open any doors, was the sword stabbed through the door? He may have worried that it would open if he pulled.

Or perhaps his NG code is that he can't even touch a door.

Homura7 · 2016-09-12, 06:23

We still don't know who moved Kirigiri and put her in supine position. Oh, and also very carefully concealed her notebook.

Gan_HOPE326 · 2016-09-12, 06:45

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Originally Posted by Alpha Knight

We still don't know who moved Kirigiri and put her in supine position. Oh, and also very carefully concealed her notebook.

Oh, didn't notice that. Damn.

Guido · 2016-10-30, 22:00

Sakakura may have been odious to me, but he was always faithful and supportive to stand by Munakatas' goals and ideals. It's just a little bit sad that Munakata backstabbed him in order to make the sacrifices needed to end the war against despair, particularly that Sakakura was ready but anxious to reveal a secret to Munakata.

As for Ruruka, her further flashbacks expounding on how she preferably betrayed Izayoi first out of fear that he could betray her to me led nowhere else. Her story arc worked better when running in parallel and together with that of Seiko's.

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FFTHEWINNER · 2019-03-08, 08:07

Finished the ninth future arc episode.

-Am I the only one who thinks that the "building falling" scene looks like a giant rising instead? 0_o

-how did Kirigiri know they are underwater? It makes sense that she figured out that they are in a different building,but how did she know that building is underwater? That was weird.

-so how did Monaca learn all their forbidden actions exactly? Regardless, it is obvious now why she was so sure of somebody dying because of Naegi.

-also,the wrestler's was very fitting XD. RIP Great Gozu :'(

-at first I thought what Naegi and co were looking at was the information from the pda that munakata took. Turns out they were just trying to compile all the forbidden actions they knew about.

-It was predictable from the flow that munakata will stab juuzo,but it still made no sense whatsoever. I really hope their explanation for his acts is good.

-an explanation that ISNT good though is ruruka's. In fact, it is pure and utter BS garbage that no one with a molecule of brain would accept,and then they top it off by making the victim somehow "understand". That is SO BS,and it legit pissed me off.

-thus,I was VERY glad that she FINALLY got murdered. It wasn't the killer's work though. The style is completely different. That means either next episode we will see who the killer actually killed,or it would be pretty much guaranteed that the killer was one of the people who died during the period between this rest period and the one before it. Anyone has a list of who died in this period?
Also,it seems like her corpse was moved as well. I wonder why.

-When I saw how Kirigiri talked to Naegi I was like "talk about shipping XD. She even took off her gloves!". It makes sense now though. I have to say, it was incredible how she was willing to sacrifice herself for him,and it makes sense now that she didn't follow him in the beginning,as she most likely thought that solving the case before the 4th sleep time would have been her only chance at surviving. It was worrisome throughout the episode with the death flags,and then it happened with a very unexpected and sad forbidden action. RIP Kirigiri :'(

Overall,this episode was better than most of the other future episodes,but ruruka's crap still drags it down a bit.

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2016-09-11, 09:49	Link #202
DMurphy Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2014	As far as Munakata not opening doors go, this is the guy who decided to stand on a table instead of sitting down like a normal person, he clearly has a flair for the dramatique that cannot be satisfied by just opening a door with its handle like a normal person. __________________ Latest Review: Psycho-Pass 2 and Legend of Korra

2016-09-11, 11:24	Link #205
Marina2 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006	Munakata didn't pick up his sword that was thrown at the door. He waited for Juzo to pull it out and returned to him. That was very strange. __________________

2016-10-30, 22:00	Link #210
Guido Snobby Gentleman Join Date: May 2004 Location: Monterrey, México Age: 43	Sakakura may have been odious to me, but he was always faithful and supportive to stand by Munakatas' goals and ideals. It's just a little bit sad that Munakata backstabbed him in order to make the sacrifices needed to end the war against despair, particularly that Sakakura was ready but anxious to reveal a secret to Munakata. As for Ruruka, her further flashbacks expounding on how she preferably betrayed Izayoi first out of fear that he could betray her to me led nowhere else. Her story arc worked better when running in parallel and together with that of Seiko's. Spoiler: Nevertheless, I'm grading high this episode due that Kirigiri's death became a shocker to me no matter how many times I actually saw it. It was a plain tear-jerker, especially when the astute viewers sensed the raising of death flags not only before this episode but likely from the start when she first look with a perplexed look at her forbidden action just

2016-09-11, 10:58	Link #204
pervypig Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2016	That's what I had thought about, and had been challenged before about Munakuta throwing his katana after Naegi. Well, the katana may not have been aimed straight at naegi, since he was being carried by Gozu at that time. Also, Munakuta checking his bracelet after throwing the katana may also be interpreted as reminding himself about the danger of killing Naegi. I mean if we're talking about the chance of Munakuta's NG code being "opening doors" or "killing Naegi", there's almost as many circumstantial evidence on both sides.

2016-09-11, 12:01	Link #206
Homura7 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009	He just has flair, and a certain habit to let others do stuff for him.

2016-09-12, 06:23	Link #208
Homura7 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009	We still don't know who moved Kirigiri and put her in supine position. Oh, and also very carefully concealed her notebook.

2019-03-08, 08:07	Link #211
FFTHEWINNER Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Age: 30	Finished the ninth future arc episode. -Am I the only one who thinks that the "building falling" scene looks like a giant rising instead? 0_o -how did Kirigiri know they are underwater? It makes sense that she figured out that they are in a different building,but how did she know that building is underwater? That was weird. -so how did Monaca learn all their forbidden actions exactly? Regardless, it is obvious now why she was so sure of somebody dying because of Naegi. -also,the wrestler's was very fitting XD. RIP Great Gozu :'( -at first I thought what Naegi and co were looking at was the information from the pda that munakata took. Turns out they were just trying to compile all the forbidden actions they knew about. -It was predictable from the flow that munakata will stab juuzo,but it still made no sense whatsoever. I really hope their explanation for his acts is good. -an explanation that ISNT good though is ruruka's. In fact, it is pure and utter BS garbage that no one with a molecule of brain would accept,and then they top it off by making the victim somehow "understand". That is SO BS,and it legit pissed me off. -thus,I was VERY glad that she FINALLY got murdered. It wasn't the killer's work though. The style is completely different. That means either next episode we will see who the killer actually killed,or it would be pretty much guaranteed that the killer was one of the people who died during the period between this rest period and the one before it. Anyone has a list of who died in this period? Also,it seems like her corpse was moved as well. I wonder why. -When I saw how Kirigiri talked to Naegi I was like "talk about shipping XD. She even took off her gloves!". It makes sense now though. I have to say, it was incredible how she was willing to sacrifice herself for him,and it makes sense now that she didn't follow him in the beginning,as she most likely thought that solving the case before the 4th sleep time would have been her only chance at surviving. It was worrisome throughout the episode with the death flags,and then it happened with a very unexpected and sad forbidden action. RIP Kirigiri :'( Overall,this episode was better than most of the other future episodes,but ruruka's crap still drags it down a bit.