(L) Negima Manga Discussion

[OverMaster]

Originally Posted by Blank-Mage

Not even partial strippage, it was full on nudity. Or, as close as Ken gets, anyway.

Spoiler for Important-ish!:

Other than that, Negi seems to have dropped his ME, and considering how tough Dynamis was the first time around, I imagine Negi'd have to have quite an ace up his sleeve to take him out a second time in addition to several Fates. Speaking of which Tertium does not look happy. Sextum blushed, a good sign for potential befriending, but it looks like Gravekeeper might be erasing her. Thoughts?

Spoiler for Thoughts:

I don't think the Gravekeeper will be erasing her. If she's really one of the good guys, and she'd have allowed everyone to drown otherwise, she won't resort to basically murder when she can restrain Sextum so easily.

Dynamis is still under the contract, so odds are he won't be able to fight Negi again. Even if he were to, he'd be pwned again; it's the Averrunci Negi has to worry about.

Also, I wonder exactly how did Sextum consider DROWNING PEOPLE DOWN was non lethal. Or didn't she get the same orders as Quartum?

[Moczo]

Originally Posted by OverMaster

Spoiler for Thoughts:

I don't think the Gravekeeper will be erasing her. If she's really one of the good guys, and she'd have allowed everyone to drown otherwise, she won't resort to basically murder when she can restrain Sextum so easily.

Dynamis is still under the contract, so odds are he won't be able to fight Negi again. Even if he were to, he'd be pwned again; it's the Averrunci Negi has to worry about.

Also, I wonder exactly how did Sextum consider DROWNING PEOPLE DOWN was non lethal. Or didn't she get the same orders as Quartum?

Spoiler for Thoughts of my own:

Well, Quartum mentioned something about 'even if your bodies are destroyed it doesn't matter as long as your souls are still sent', right? Presumably there is some way to do exactly this that Sextum was planning to use.

[OverMaster]

Spoiler for IIRC...:

I think Quartum was talking about the standard erasing procedure for the MM residents. Killing humans from Mundus Vetus seems to be a fully different thing.

[Ancient Death]

Originally Posted by Tiresias

Spoiler for LOL:

Heh, looks like Tertium's pulling the 'only I can mess with him' card

I wonder if Chao's Strip Beams were inspired by her ancestor's particular...habit

Ah, who know? As you know might know that everyone have a hard time to figure out what Chao is thinking...or couldn't...never.

Geniuses always have one or two twisted habits (or hobbies).

[al103]

Originally Posted by OverMaster

Spoiler for IIRC...:

I think Quartum was talking about the standard erasing procedure for the MM residents. Killing humans from Mundus Vetus seems to be a fully different thing.

Spoiler for Naaah, remember Godel's ball...:

Dynamis directly stated that he would send Nodoka to KE, but it will leave dead body behind.

[OverMaster]

They are a bunch of damn hypocrites then, seeing as they apparently aren't allowed to kill, but... their ultimate objective is to basically kill. LOL WHAT.

Seriously, though, KE's whole rules on killing or not seem to be made on the fly and depending on what the situation demands at any moment.

[Krono]

Originally Posted by OverMaster

They are a bunch of damn hypocrites then, seeing as they apparently aren't allowed to kill, but... their ultimate objective is to basically kill. LOL WHAT.

Seriously, though, KE's whole rules on killing or not seem to be made on the fly and depending on what the situation demands at any moment.

Nah. Basically as long as their soul gets sent to CE, they don't consider it killing. Killing them before the soul can be sent on the other hand would be killing.

Drowning doesn't instantly kill someone. First they lose consciousness, then you've got a minute or two before you have to worry about brain damage. Plenty of time to use magic to pull the water out of their lungs leaving them all unconscious and weak, or just rip their souls out of their bodies and send them along.

[Blank-Mage]

I'm gonne agree with OverMaster here. Drowning as a non-lethal measure is feasible, but it's kind of a stretch. Hey, maybe Sextum is genre savvy enough to know killing someone in Negima is next to impossible anyway, and just wasn't worrying about it.

[Kurush]

Perhaps the Averruncii were designed as the bypass. They enforce the law that you do not kill humans but hold the authorization themselves to perform the deed if it becomes necessary. Fate said it himself: "We are to refrain from pointless killing. If we don't limit our sacrifices to those necessary to achieve our purpose, we'll lose sight of our just goal."

I'll confess I took that from the volumes.

[OverMaster]

Originally Posted by Krono

or just rip their souls out of their bodies and send them along.

"Don't worry, I won't kill you. I'll just eternally rip the soul out of your body, leaving it a dead husk."

"But that is killing."

"Says who? Bring me a dictionary!"

"No one needs a dictionary to know killing is the act of interrupting all vital functions of a human being's body in an abrupt and sudden way!"

"That's where you're wrong! It won't be abrupt and sudden! It'll be slow and lingering!"

[DKN117]

Just read 313. Am actively avoiding 314 spoilers to avoid being spoiled.

Spoiler for Massacre of 313:

...Why, Akamatsu?! Why are you killing them all?! Chachamaru sliced in half! Kotarou, Kazumi, Yue, and Makie vaporized, with Natsumi and Nodoka assuredly about to be executed as well! Kuu Fei frozen, which (unless you're anti-magic Asuna) is unsurvivable! WHY THE FUCK DID YOU MAKE US LOVE ALL THESE CHARACTERS IF YOU WERE JUST WAITING TO CASUALLY AND HORRIBLY KILL THEM OFF?!!

[OverMaster]

He's gone off the deep end?

Seriously, though,

Spoiler for You said you didn't want spoilers, but this could make you feel better::

things get better in Chapter 314. A little. For the time being, at least.

[quigonkenny]

Originally Posted by OverMaster

He's gone off the deep end?

Seriously, though,

Spoiler for You said you didn't want spoilers, but this could make you feel better::

things get better in Chapter 314. A little. For the time being, at least.

Pretty sure DKN117 is being sarcastic... At least I hope so...

[DKN117]

Actually, I'm not. I deliberately avoid spoilered things until after I've actually read the chapter, and it does indeed look like

Spoiler for 312 & 313:

the last two chapters have seen a significant number of the gang brutally killed by the Averruncus Series.

[quigonkenny]

Originally Posted by DKN117

Actually, I'm not. I deliberately avoid spoilered things until after I've actually read the chapter, and it does indeed look like

Spoiler for 312 & 313:

the last two chapters have seen a significant number of the gang brutally killed by the Averruncus Series.

Yes, but there's also the unmistakable fact that

Spoiler for 1 - 311:

no one has been killed over the course of the series to date.

Past performance is no guarantee of future results, of course, but I'm not spoiling anything by saying that none of those people you mentioned is dead. For one thing, I'd be saying the exact same thing even if I hadn't seen the spoilers, and for another, with the obvious exceptions of badass, take a ton of damage fighters Kotaro and Kaede and robot Chachamaru, all of their "damage" took place off-screen. Even Nodoka got zotted right in the middle of a frame, and I don't see anybody in-universe acting as if she has any ailment beyond "knocked out". Certainly no one's been "vaporized". Even the guy who took a giant flaming sword through his ship, which then went asplode, only got petalled. They even took a few extra frames to make it extra clear that he had only gotten petalled, although by the Fates' own words, it seems clear that death by any manner would send a Magicus denizen to KE at this point.

[Blank-Mage]

Agreed. No one's going to die, or at the very least, not right now. There is always the chance in any series that at least one character might get a poignant death scene. But that'll be absolutely last chapter material.

[Kurush]

The question then would be: Who?

[quigonkenny]

Originally Posted by Kurush

The question then would be: Who?

Nagi and/or Takamichi have the largest death flags. No one in 3-A is at all likely to bite it, at least traditionally, even near the end of the series...

[Kurush]

Originally Posted by quigonkenny

Nagi and/or Takamichi have the largest death flags. No one in 3-A is at all likely to bite it, at least traditionally, even near the end of the series...

For the record, Kenny, it was a rhetorical question.

[nines]

If anyone were to have a death scene I would think it would be Chisame, she was a side character at first but now shes grown into something really important to the series and especially to Negi. With her death it could cause a major bitch fit.