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View Poll Results: Who is the ultimate shinobi? | |||
The 1st | 24 | 5.99% | |
The 2nd | 3 | 0.75% | |
Sarutobi | 117 | 29.18% | |
The 4th | 119 | 29.68% | |
Jiraiya | 27 | 6.73% | |
Orochimaru | 10 | 2.49% | |
Tsunde | 4 | 1.00% | |
Itachi | 73 | 18.20% | |
Other...[Please State Who] | 24 | 5.99% | |
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2004-05-22, 15:28 | Link #41 | ||
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2004-05-22, 15:28 | Link #42 |
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The strongest
Some one mentioned that Jiraiya shouldn't be in the list becasue he had no specialbloodline or secret jutsu...
COME ON!!! Please remind me my friend which Hokage (strongest person in the village) had an advanced bloodline? ehhh... answer:NONE!!! Strenght depends on 1.talent, 2.genius and/or 3.the amount of chakra you have. Didn't you hear the 3 ANBU saying that they were absolutely terrified by feeling the chakra of the 3th and orochimaru? Be an Uchiha, be a Hyuga, pick any bloodline you wish, none of them can surpass the conditions mentioned above |
2004-05-22, 15:35 | Link #43 |
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is that really that hard to belive? that Itachi, your lover, might be afraid of someone?
And about the Akastuki being mad, when i think of people who must be running that group of crazy killers, i dont think its a bunch of forgiving nice guys who want to understand others. Its probably people like Kisame, Itachi and Zabuza. People with tempers, who dont like failures. So i can safely assume they are pissed. Its a bad thing Itachi using it so often, cause look what happens? you never know when youll need it, he didnt know if Jiraiya was going to figure out what they did to that girl or not. Well, maybe he didnt have to kill Sasuke, he coulda just knocked him out. How would Itachi know Naruto would be alone later on? For all he knew, after the encounter, Jiraiya takes NAruto back the Konoha and has 3 ANBU teams, 2 elite Jounins, and himself watching Naruto 24/7. And i dont think it was dumb for Itachi and Kisame to run b/c Gai showed up, Gai said he called for back up. so it would be what? 20 vs. 2? thats not dumb, and it wasnt even there mission to fight that worthless battle, it was Naruto. and when the battle to get Naruto came up, it was 2 vs. 1. Sasuke and Naruto would be useless in the fight, we all know that. There are actual good reasons why he wouldnt chase after them, what was Jiraiyas GOAL? its was Naruto. So why go after them? |
2004-05-22, 15:44 | Link #45 | |
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And one quesion. If you had a mission to get a..... statue for example(:P), and that statue was the most important thing for your group/family. And you could get the statue right there, but it were only one man in the way who you did not fear,and you knew that you could not loose against him. Would you run away then ? |
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2004-05-22, 16:04 | Link #46 |
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There is a big difference between caution and fear. Recognizing someone's strength does not mean you are afraid of them!
And pillage my lover would be Jiraiya not Itachi. I don't like Itachi as a character. So your point was? The mission was to get Naruto and go, not to get in a huge fight with Jiaiya get hurt in the process. Who knows with all the high level jutsus OTHER jounins would show up just like in the Kakashi fight... "forget stealthy LET'S BATTLE !!! W0000!" Lets look at this scenario: There is a room with something you need but there is a guy that will fight you if you try to go in. You know if you fight him you will beat him and get acces to the room ... but ... during the fight you will be badly injured. You also know that at some point the guy will leave to eat dinner so you can go in without all the commotion. So would you be patient and wait ... or would you just charge the guy beat him up but loose an arm or something. Let's say you choose to be patient and wait for the guy to leave ... does that automatically mean that you are scared of the guy? If there was no way to avoid a 1v1 match between Itachi and Jiraiya(like 3rd vs Oro) do you honestly think Itachi would try to run or be afraid of Jiraiya? I don't get this ... does Itachi really come off as a coward to you people? Last edited by Lexander; 2004-05-22 at 16:22. |
2004-05-22, 16:23 | Link #48 | |
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If Sasuke found Itachi the whole Jounin team of Konoha will too don't you think? |
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2004-05-22, 16:55 | Link #49 | |
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And, IMHO, Itachi is ever so slightly overrated. The reason everyone puts him on top is because of one technique that he claims cannot be countered by anyone except his little brother - a claim which, without logical reasoning behind it, rates equally as a claim of "I cannot be defeated". |
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2004-05-22, 17:18 | Link #50 |
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Hm.. overall speaking it has to be the 3rd Hokage in his prime. He was known as the god of all shinobi... if anyone else matched up to him then they would have been given that title.
Second strongest would have to be Orochimaru. He easily defeated the 3rd Hokage (the strongest kage) and his summon during the older years. Yes I say EASILY since the ONLY damage Orochimaru and his own summons received was due to the sealing techinque. Other than the sealing technique...the third didn't even scratch Orochimaru. The third himself was coughing up blood and what not. Other reasons for Orochimaru - He was the 3rd Hokage's FIRST choice to succeed him (reminder - Hokage is strongest ninja in village). He picked Orochimaru over the 4th hokage, Jiraiya, Tsunade, and any others. The only reason he wasn't picked is because of his twisted ideals. He told Jiraiya to be more like Oro. He is mentioned as a genius that comes along once in decades. I dont see why the 4th hokage is supposed to be so strong. He sealed the kyubi through one specific technique.... a technique that ends up costing him his life.... That isn't sufficient for me to put him above others. Jiraiya hasn't impressed me with anything either. All he's done is held off an Itachi who didn't want to have a battle in the middle of the city. Itachi is a possibility.. very real too. He actually might be stronger than Oro or the 3rd, but I need to see more of him fighting. So.. for now, its 3rd Hokage until I see what Itachi is capable of. |
2004-05-22, 17:28 | Link #51 | ||
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As for Tsukiyomi...there might probably be a loophole or something, but since no one has figured it out yet and our dear friend Orochimaru hasn't either, I'd say Itachi gets the benefit of doubt. |
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2004-05-22, 17:46 | Link #52 |
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I'd still say the 4th because on various occasions they were like "I wish the 4th was here" Sarutobi said that he was the strongest ever. So my ranking goes:
The 4th - Said to be the strongest ever Sarutobi - Said to have mastered every jutsu Itachi - Feared by Oro Orochimaru - By a slim margin beats Jiraiya Jiraiya - Has a nice summon and good jutsus [Was doing good against Oro even though he was drugged] Tsunde - Is wickedly strong and can heal herself plus has a summon The 1st - Is wickedly strong The 2nd- Only saw him fight when braing controled |
2004-05-22, 17:49 | Link #53 | |
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A question: If these are all supposed to be in their primes, shouldn't Naruto, Sasuke, Neji and all of those be on the list as well? Naruto in his prime should kick anyone's ass... Seriously, he should! Stop argueing! HE SHOULD! Oh, you didn't argue..?
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2004-05-22, 18:48 | Link #54 | |
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When the guy leaves for dinner you enter and grab the thing you are after. Then as you turn to leave, the guy is back and blocking your exit. He says he is going to kill you. He then lunges at you. What do you do? You drop the thing you already had in your grasp, and blow a hole in the wall so you can run away. As for Itachi's killer mange sharingan, as Gai already said all you have to do is look away from his eyes and it won't be able to work on you. I'm sure there are several jutsu out there that can counter it too, whoever decides not to look away... staying behind a summon and out of the sharingan's range could be one way. For most powerful ninja I'd go for Orochimaru. He wanted a kage body, so he killed one to get it. He's the only ninja we know to have killed not one, but two kages. He can summon kages/giant snakes to do his work for him. It took the godofdeath-sealing technique to stop him, last time that technique had to be used it was against kyuubi. He created the curse seal and has eyes which can freeze a ninja on the spot. He's near impossible to kill too. If you gave him something worth fighting for(if sasuke's sharingan/body was at risk) and Oro went all out with all his jutsu... that's gonna leave a mark. But the facts say Sarutobi knew all the jutsu in Konoha and was the most powerful in his prime so I'll go with Sarutobi 1vs1, but Oro for larger scale destruction(like destroying a city). |
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2004-05-22, 18:51 | Link #55 | |
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2004-05-22, 19:49 | Link #57 | |
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The anime chose to show it as an equal fight in which everyone was trying to kill each other, but • I still doubt that the clan would have ever tried to kill Itachi - even to the very end. They would have fought to disable him without permanent injury - like if your best friend (or brother, or sister) gets really drunk and tries to start a fight with you. • The anime didn't show the Uchiha as battle-hardened warriors - quite the opposite, in my view. |
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2004-05-22, 20:25 | Link #59 | |||
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Your arguments are mute, all you say is that since Itachi ran from a fight that was unneccasary to begin with, and chose to return when it would be less hassle for him, he's afarid of Jaraiya. So as it has been put, your saying that whenever someone in the series chose or chooses not to stay and fight an un-needed battle, they are afraid of their opponent. Deny that statement all you want but that is exactly what your saying. As said before, I dislike Itachi, not even on my list of likeable characters, I just think your being dumb and so therefore am telling you as such. |
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