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Old 2018-08-04, 12:44   Link #541
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Old 2018-08-04, 14:22   Link #542
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ehhh, If I had the IQ quirk I'd try to do something else other than hero work tbh
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Old 2018-08-04, 14:52   Link #543
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ehhh, If I had the IQ quirk I'd try to do something else other than hero work tbh
Then that girl has a particular reason to be a hero? Or she just wants the celebrity status that professional heroes have.
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Old 2018-08-04, 16:01   Link #544
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Actually IQ's plan looked kind of idiotic. There were at least a dozen girls sitting in one of many buildings waiting for someone to wonder into their trap as more then half the hundred spots to pass were filled. And her super plan only worked as well as it did because Momo's group acted like fools.

Momo is so incredibly powerful that she is forced to be brain dead to even it out and in this case it rubbed off on her whole party. A battery powered electric blanket, a thermite lance and not running around in front of a known sniper would have ended the trap in five minutes.

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Old 2018-08-04, 22:58   Link #545
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Man, the Deku dick riding on this episode was pretty annoying... Well, more than usual. Seriously, at this point it is as if these characters can't do a thing without going "What would Deku do?", it just feels way too forced for my taste.

The IQ girl was another annoying and boring part of the episode, was quite literally trying not to fall asleep during that whole part. That was a pretty dumb plan that could have been interrupted a hundred ways to sunday out of the sheer fact that this is basically a battle royale and don't get me started on Momo and her group, is it that difficult to make everyone their own coat to stave off the cold? Why just one shitty blanket? How about a drill or jackhammer to escape through the lower floors or you know, a wall?

And then there is Aizawas little speech at the end, of which parts ring hollow when Bakugo was clearly not even once given the same treatment as Deku throughout the entire episode. All of a sudden I am supposed to believe that Bakugo is some sort of charismatic character? I understand Deku but that is mostly because the show is structured to make you see him that way but Bakugo has not once shown that kind of quality in between his little hissy fits of rage.

This episode is a great example of what mean when I say that this anime is trying it's hardest to manipulate your thoughts and feelings. The thing is that I don't exactly hate some of these things, but man, at the very least try and make it more believable and try to give your characters more individuality.

I didn't even mean to rant, but man did this episode really annoy me.
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Old 2018-08-04, 23:10   Link #546
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In its defense the Todoroki and Momo segments were anime fillers. Which is a shame. I don't even know why the producers think this series needs fillers.
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Old 2018-08-04, 23:26   Link #547
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And then there is Aizawas little speech at the end, of which parts ring hollow when Bakugo was clearly not even once given the same treatment as Deku throughout the entire episode. All of a sudden I am supposed to believe that Bakugo is some sort of charismatic character? I understand Deku but that is mostly because the show is structured to make you see him that way but Bakugo has not once shown that kind of quality in between his little hissy fits of rage.
I posted this back when this chapter came out, and it seems appropriate here again.

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We've seen, several times, that pretty much the entire class has come to respect both Deku's ability to analyze things, and his grit and determination to overcome whatever's in front of him even in the face of serious injury. With his determination to become a hero he has pushed, and the other students, some consciously some unconsciously, have responded to that and pushed harder themselves.

And Bakugo is much the same. He's an ass: everyone can see that. However, those who have truly been watching him, rather than just judging him, have seen that he truly is focused on nothing less than becoming the greatest hero he can be. They saw him fight Uraraka at full power in the sports festival not out of cruelty, but out of respect for her, and those who can see that respect him for it. They heard Aizawa tell the reporter to his face that if he, or the villains, thought Bakugo could be turned to a villain himself, then they'd F'd up, because there was no one more determined to become a true hero than he was. And several of those students were willing to put themselves in the most unbelievably dangerous position of their lives in order to rescue him.

These things are inspirational. They are not always inspirational in the same way, and not everyone may even realize they're being inspired by them, but despite working from opposite ends of the personality-spectrum, both Deku and Bakugo have helped push their classmates forward to become more than they would have otherwise been on their own.
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Old 2018-08-04, 23:57   Link #548
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Yeah, the anime filler parts are really weaker than the manga material. I don't mind some explaining, but it gets repetitious with how scattered all the Class A students are.

Todoroki's part wasn't too bad, since it was mostly just power against power. Although those ninja guys were kind of stupid- they have a good set-up against Todoroki (heat-resistant metal and water and dirt to counter his fire) but all this effort just to take down one student? When best case scenario they'd need at least two students for each of them. Unless they really hate UA, but that's a bit silly. In the manga, their defeat was off-screen, so it was easier to infer that they had just bumped into each other and Todoroki had overpowered them as he usually does.

Yaoyorozu's section was weak too- I'm not sure why she didn't just produce that cannon (from the sports festival) and bust their way out, too much talking honestly. Rather, too much talking in the middle of a battle. And it all started because they had to go into a isolated room by themselves (compared to outside where they would have more room to maneuver). Momo's quirk is always particularly dangerous, especially since more than most other quirks, you literally never know what she can produce (especially as she accumulates more knowledge). Oh well, that's anime filler for you.

Eraserhead's analysis is sharp as always. Its hard not to be inspired by those two's dedication (as Yaoyorozu's flashback showed as well as other examples). And Bakugo's not likable, not ever, but its hard not to respect him a little. Or at least to acknowledge his ability. That's probably one of the longer arcs in the series, Bakugo's relations to the rest of the class.

That's one strange quirk. And disturbing to see what it does to people, but then that would be perfect for restraining villains. Cute to see Uraraka instantly agree with Midoriya's plan, but she's right, his plans are usually good. Hopefully this particular test will wrap up soon and they won't have to include too much more filler.
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Old 2018-08-05, 00:54   Link #549
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Yeah, the anime filler parts are really weaker than the manga material. I don't mind some explaining, but it gets repetitious with how scattered all the Class A students are.

Todoroki's part wasn't too bad, since it was mostly just power against power. Although those ninja guys were kind of stupid- they have a good set-up against Todoroki (heat-resistant metal and water and dirt to counter his fire) but all this effort just to take down one student? When best case scenario they'd need at least two students for each of them. Unless they really hate UA, but that's a bit silly. In the manga, their defeat was off-screen, so it was easier to infer that they had just bumped into each other and Todoroki had overpowered them as he usually does.

Yaoyorozu's section was weak too- I'm not sure why she didn't just produce that cannon (from the sports festival) and bust their way out, too much talking honestly. Rather, too much talking in the middle of a battle. And it all started because they had to go into a isolated room by themselves (compared to outside where they would have more room to maneuver). Momo's quirk is always particularly dangerous, especially since more than most other quirks, you literally never know what she can produce (especially as she accumulates more knowledge). Oh well, that's anime filler for you.

Eraserhead's analysis is sharp as always. Its hard not to be inspired by those two's dedication (as Yaoyorozu's flashback showed as well as other examples). And Bakugo's not likable, not ever, but its hard not to respect him a little. Or at least to acknowledge his ability. That's probably one of the longer arcs in the series, Bakugo's relations to the rest of the class.

That's one strange quirk. And disturbing to see what it does to people, but then that would be perfect for restraining villains. Cute to see Uraraka instantly agree with Midoriya's plan, but she's right, his plans are usually good. Hopefully this particular test will wrap up soon and they won't have to include too much more filler.
Didn't she say something like the risk of collapsing the building they're in when Shoji suggested her to create something to bust out of the room?
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Old 2018-08-05, 01:31   Link #550
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The IQ girl was another annoying and boring part of the episode, was quite literally trying not to fall asleep during that whole part. That was a pretty dumb plan that could have been interrupted a hundred ways to sunday out of the sheer fact that this is basically a battle royale and don't get me started on Momo and her group, is it that difficult to make everyone their own coat to stave off the cold? Why just one shitty blanket?
She wanted to save the use of her quirk. Though yeah, I don't remember her ever having problems with producing as little material as she did here. Didn't she eat before coming to the exam?

My real question, though, is why the AC of a "normal office building" can be weaponized. AC can make things unpleasant, sure, but not unbearable. They didn't walk into a freezer.

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Yaoyorozu's section was weak too- I'm not sure why she didn't just produce that cannon (from the sports festival) and bust their way out,
Because the point wasn't just to get out of the room. It was to defeat the students on the other side of the door.
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Old 2018-08-05, 02:59   Link #551
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ehhh, If I had the IQ quirk I'd try to do something else other than hero work tbh
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Then that girl has a particular reason to be a hero? Or she just wants the celebrity status that professional heroes have.
Not defending the rather bad writing of this episode, but remember in this world you need a Hero License basically to make any commercial use of your Quirk. Uraraka wants it to be able to help her parents (I assume, by making construction materials lightweight and easy to move ).
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Old 2018-08-05, 07:15   Link #552
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My real question, though, is why the AC of a "normal office building" can be weaponized. AC can make things unpleasant, sure, but not unbearable. They didn't walk into a freezer.
That student with an ice quirk was freezing the air through the vents, remember? Seen at around 8:37.
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Old 2018-08-05, 07:23   Link #553
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Oh, right. OK then.
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Old 2018-08-05, 08:39   Link #554
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Well filler is filler but couldnt they just smash to a lower floor since the only part locked was that one floor. My guess this filler was only made to show how Midorya or Bakugo influanced the whole class, but for me that could be skipped and let Midorya group finish their part so we can move to next group.
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Old 2018-08-05, 08:41   Link #555
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I posted this back when this chapter came out, and it seems appropriate here again.
Well, of course they have to respect him, Deku is conveniently the only one and probably the first person ever in this world to use tactics and to analyze a battle. The only reason any other character even entertains the thought of trying to do some small battle analisys is only due to the fact that Deku did it, not because they themselves are that smart or capable, no, it is only because Deku did it (or said it) first.

Now I am not saying this is a bad thing. When done well that kind of development can work, but, when every single one of your characters have to go "what would Deku do?" any time they need to "turn the tables" or something of the like, you are doing a disservice to said characters by not giving them a sense of individuality.

While you make a few good points about Bakugo, that is not what Aizawa pointed out about Bakugo in this episode. Aizawa was talking about how Bakigo was (I am paraphrasing here) "the one always caught up in the middle of these villain attacks" and how that made him be on par with Deku as one of the main pillars of the class (if in this episode Aizawa had mentioned the things you pointed out his words would not rings as hollow for me). The thing is that most of those are him being kidnapped while someone else (mainly Deku) goes after him to save him, the writing so far has not really shown him to be anything more than the obvious third placer that he is that sometimes does one admirable thing.

Heck, it would have been far more believable if Aizawa had said mentioned Todoroki instead of Bakugo, at least then it would make sense seeing as Todoroki has in his own way (of course after Deku did it) proven he is one of the pillars holding up their class (when he used talk-no-jutsu to inspire both Iida and Momo in the same wah Deku did to him). Bakugo can't claim to have done anything remotely similar at this point, maybe that will change later but as of now I don't see it.

It isn't that you did not make some really good points but as it stands with what we have been shown so far I can't exactly agree with what the series is trying to convey at certain points.
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Old 2018-08-05, 10:51   Link #556
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As far as filler goes, this was pretty good. The enemy character feel like they could have come from the manga, the conversation between Aizawa and Joke was pretty good, and of course Hibernating-Tsuyu is so adorable that she's worth the price of admission by herself.
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Old 2018-08-05, 11:35   Link #557
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While you make a few good points about Bakugo, that is not what Aizawa pointed out about Bakugo in this episode. Aizawa was talking about how Bakigo was (I am paraphrasing here) "the one always caught up in the middle of these villain attacks" and how that made him be on par with Deku as one of the main pillars of the class (if in this episode Aizawa had mentioned the things you pointed out his words would not rings as hollow for me). The thing is that most of those are him being kidnapped while someone else (mainly Deku) goes after him to save him, the writing so far has not really shown him to be anything more than the obvious third placer that he is that sometimes does one admirable thing.
But it is what Aizawa pointed out. "There's something I realized after watching Class A for a while. They may not have realized it, but in Class A there are two people whose presence has a big effect. They're not leaders, or the most popular, and the two of them don't get along at all. But, before I knew it, their passion spread to the rest of the class. It's strange, but one of them is always at the center of any major event. Joke, I'm not worried. I can't wait to see what they'll do. Even if they're not physically with everyone, their presence raises the standard for the whole class."

Bakugo has passion and drive, and the way he keeps pushing has pushed the others to try harder, to be stronger, to go beyond what they thought they could do.

Also, the "one of them is always at the center of any major event" doesn't mean "Bakugo always gets caught up in things" but rather "one or the other of them will be involved in any major thing that happens, for good or for ill." They cannot stay away from it, and both end up standing out in how they handle things.
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Old 2018-08-11, 07:28   Link #558
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Bakugo's actions here help give more context to Aizawa's words. He's a jerk, but him actually working with Kaminari probably counts as character development for him. Nice new gear for Kaminari, that'll give him a lot more flexibility in combat situations from now on (and hopefully won't kill off his intelligence as fast). And I always find Bakugo's crazy attitude to be more funny than annoying (like he just sees more targets rather than being outnumbered). Aoyama gets some spotlight, he's a bit unusual but he is nice. Iida's always so enthusiastic about everything.

Still a bit of recap, but far less filler this week, which helps. Too bad we couldn't have seen more of the general brawl. And they really go all out for these tests, huh? Well, they've tested their combat ability and intelligence, nice to see the rescue side of heroics brought up too (and this will probably be even trickier than the last part).
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Old 2018-08-11, 08:53   Link #559
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As far as filler goes, this was pretty good. The enemy character feel like they could have come from the manga, the conversation between Aizawa and Joke was pretty good, and of course Hibernating-Tsuyu is so adorable that she's worth the price of admission by herself.

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Agreed. This was more adorable than it had any right to be. And it fits what the Principal was saying during his test about super-smart villains who would sit back and watch you struggle.
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Some nice teamwork in this episode. Bakugou is definitely growing, being able to trust his fellow classmates, and he didn't insult Deku much, and in fact almost... praised him?

Camie managed to pass despite taking off her targets earlier. There has to be some trick.
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