2012-07-11, 07:33 | Link #21 |
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Unfortunately, due to me having various hobbies (and also the fact, anime/manga isn't my prime hobby anymore), I only tend to buy local releases, has to be bluray and has to be something I REALLY enjoyed. At the last anime con (was more of a pop culture convention, but with a large anime component) I bought a bunch of classic Ghibli movies that were remastered in Bluray that were on sale (like $15 each), Usagi Drop ($30) and the 3 volumes of Madoka Magica which totaled $50. There's a bunch of titles I'm still waiting for will give "reasonable prices".
Otherwise, I still buy manga on a bulk basis about once or twice a year ... mainly of the shojo or josei demography ... I'm such a girl! Limited money is my biggest factor in trying to support the anime industry. I will never buy those overpriced Japanese imports |
2012-07-11, 07:50 | Link #22 |
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if you can afford to import anime DVD/BluRay from japan then that is the best way, along with buying their anime merchandises
if you got less money then buying legal anime DVD/BluRay on your local stores is good if you got only few money to spare then a crunchyroll subscription will support the anime companies too if you got no money at all then discussing about anime on forums/etc will improve the interest of potential buyers more, and also making MAD/AMV videos to promote anime will be good to increase interest for portential buyers, also if you got deviantart just vector or make good drawings of your favorite anime that is another way to promote them and again increase interest of potential buyers, even making sigs will do too |
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It's possible to buy a few titles and have a family. ($100 a month [locally bought] and the rest to your family).
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2012-07-11, 19:36 | Link #26 | |
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2012-07-12, 00:02 | Link #27 | |
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So yeah... without any doubt, it's unreasonably expensive compared to all local entertainment. They're very expensive keepsakes.
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2012-07-12, 14:55 | Link #28 |
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If you want to support the *SOURCE* of anime production, buy the swag from Japan. Figures, music CDs, posters, keychains, etc. from places like cdjapan.co.jp, hlj.com, rightstuf.com.
Unless the R1 license gives the producer a cut of the sales, then sales of R1 videos only benefit the R1 distributor (which does mean they're more likely to license more products though). The streaming sites.. the same problem - unless the producer gets a cut of each subscription then you're really only benefiting Crunchyroll. I'm not saying don't buy R1 DVDs or subscriptions - just that you're not necessarily helping the industry inside Japan all that much. I usually don't buy the 'japanese original dvd/blu-ray' for the reasons relentlessflame lists. But I have purchased, for example, the K-On! live concert Blu-ray discs and I have a large collection of japan-released music CDs (OSTs, character song CDs, etc). I also collect the figures (1/8, 1/6, gashapon, etc) of specific series I've enjoyed.
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2012-07-12, 17:54 | Link #29 |
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How much of this money actually goes to the animators/voice actors/bg artists that actually create the thing we watch?
As far as I've read on some blogs, none. If that's true, is there a way to support them, and not the producers and retailers that only pour capital into the thing? |
2012-07-12, 19:54 | Link #30 |
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Sadly, very little actually gets to the voice actors, animators, etc in comparison to that which their "overlords" get... so they tend to thrive on people's personal thanks and fandom (the voice actors in particular).
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2012-07-12, 19:59 | Link #31 | |
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Nevertheless, the idea behind support is that profitable productions mean continued employment for people in the industry. We support them by giving the producers a reason to make more anime. |
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2012-07-12, 20:19 | Link #32 |
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Continued employment, but of what kind? I've read some things about how this industry works and if they aren't outdated or inaccurate, it's a pretty shitty job, especially for inbetweeners and clean-up animators. Some KAs and other staff like the sound crew or the writers are in better economic positions, but it's still a low-end job compared to the huge money the industry supposedly moves.
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2012-07-12, 20:26 | Link #33 | |
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The R1 companies are essentially the middle man for us. I guess in theory if we buy the series we like from the R1 companies they would license more of those type of series and in that sense the Japanese companies do get money from those sales, it's just in an indirect way. It's the R1 companies giving them the money not us. Not really sure how it works with American subsidiaries of Japanese companies though.
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2012-07-12, 22:11 | Link #35 | |
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Now that the bubble has burst in NA I am not sure if those licensing fees would be quite as high these days but Japanese companies do make something from the US anime companies essentially buying the rights to sell the series over here. I expect Japanese companies make more money off of that than royalties since a lot of series don't even sell that well here. Although that is just for BR/DVD, not sure how streaming works. For the record this is a list of licensing costs for various ADV series. http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news...icensing-Costs
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However, surveys are skewed because higher paid animators are less inclined to respond to them. As some have mentioned, they would never have stuck around if their yearly incomes were as low as suggested. No one gets rich working as animators, but some do well enough to avoid working all year round and to be choosy in terms of projects. Quote:
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2012-07-13, 08:11 | Link #38 |
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If you ever wondered why ADV had to re-organize, looking at that list of licensing fees they paid will tell you a lot. Just under a million dollars for Kurau: Phantom Memory? Fees like that are now just a "phantom memory" in the minds of the Japanese production committees.
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2012-07-13, 09:19 | Link #39 | |
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If you can buy stuff, please do. If you can't buy a lot, or can't buy anything at all, that's okay, but please buy what you can. |
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2012-07-13, 12:34 | Link #40 | |
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In some cases, it doesn't make sense to buy the series because it isn't licensed in your region. That doesn't mean one can't buy the swag -- figures, CDs, manga, light novels, posters, etc. As long as it isn't bootleg - those profits also go to the producing companies. It is pretty simple - no money, no anime will happen. As long as there's a *patron* class who spends enough money on the art/performance, the *peanut gallery* (leechers) get some benefit as well. But there has to BE patronage by sufficient numbers of people or the entertainment vanishes. I think the best ethical rule of thumb is to buy what you can when you can. If you're a teenager, you're unlikely to have the funds to buy much just like you can't afford to go to the concert. If you're a 20-something programmer making 50K euros a year... you can probably afford to visit www.cdjapan.co.jp or www.hlj.com and pick up a few trinkets.
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