2013-05-28, 08:50 | Link #2981 | |
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2013-05-28, 16:45 | Link #2982 | |
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Hearing about the speculation about Kurumi is one thing. On one of Shinji's post;
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Her motivates could also be seen as selfish with her dislike that she's a Spirit, she isn't kind as people would think it would just be convinent for her. And don't forget the time paradox she's going to create. (She goes back in time and kills the first-spirit, which mean she doesn't gain her powers -> She doesn't go back in time to kill the spirit -> First Spirit isn't dead therefore the incidents happen -> She gains the powers and uses it to go back in time and kills the spirit -> which repeats the pattern.) And all in all, those people she killed will be killed in-vain (Continously or if Shidou manages to convince her to stop her plans). Along with her shortening many other lifespans. |
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2013-05-28, 16:51 | Link #2983 |
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Why exactly does everyone think the spirits are going to be "erased"? They existed in a separate world before they were dragged here, so if Kurumi prevents whatever is pulling them here from doing so, they'll just exist there instead.
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Nope, I didn't forget the time paradox that she'd create. The grandfather paradox, was it not? Quote:
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2013-05-28, 20:56 | Link #2988 | |
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1. She only killed the guys in the last episode because she saw them picking on a puppy 2. When shidou said he wanted to save her she threatened to kill everybody. 3 .Multiple times tried to convince shidou she was evil and a bad thing. 4. When shidou was about to kill himself she thought he was bluffing and not only saved him asked if he was out of his mind. 5. Stopped the thing that basically gave her strength plus a spacequake after being convinced to do so by shidou 6. Was going to take his hand and stop everything before another kurumi killed her. And two other things tell you she aint evil. 1. She could've eaten shidou at least 3 times in that episode but didn't. 2. If she was this powerful how come she let mana continue to kill her. Maybe its just me or like everyone else i'm stunned at how hot she was in the black underwear but she mite be the most confusing female character in anime history. |
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2013-05-28, 21:01 | Link #2989 | |
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2013-05-28, 21:27 | Link #2990 | |
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1. And she also killed 10,000 other people with her own hands along with random civilians by causing intentional spacequakes. Truly an angel. 2. She wanted him to feel terrified. 3. Because she pretty much is. 4. She needs him alive to absorb his powers. 5. I guess being convinced to do something makes you a tsundere now. Guess every anime character is a tsundere by your definition. 6. Yeah, killed by the original. 1. And she was about to before Mana came in. Before that, she was pretty much fucking around, and even explicitly says she wanted to experience what school life was like before attempting to wipe it out. As for the roof scene, she was having fun messing around before Shidou's half-assed attempt to 'save' her. 2. She was having fun. I think at this point you're just trying too hard to make this character something that she isn't. |
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2013-05-28, 23:40 | Link #2992 | |
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@Marly: I agree with all your points except for this one:
Now, why would the original want to kill that particular clone of hers? Because she didn't want to be seen as too weak. Quote:
Also, the time with Phantom in the epilogue of volume 4. Again, she doesn't want to be seen as too kind. Last edited by iamadooddood; 2013-05-28 at 23:54. |
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2013-05-29, 00:19 | Link #2993 | ||
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I also don't see how this works as a "tsundere" character archetype if a character was "dere" some time in the past and was "tsun" in the present, though I don't think "tsun" even actually characterizes Kurumi in the first place. |
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2013-05-29, 00:19 | Link #2994 | ||
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2013-05-29, 00:55 | Link #2995 |
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Right, so I have a question, for once.
When we're talking about the "First Spirit," does it mean that it was the first spirit that ever existed, or the first spirit that appeared in the world? (and hence causing other spirits (whether they're actually older than the "First Spirit" or not) from that dimension to flow into the world) |
2013-05-29, 02:29 | Link #2996 |
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I actually interpret that as the first spirit who appeared in the world. However, it is possible said "First Spirit" is supposedly the top of the hierarchy of the Tree of Life (given the Hebrew origins of the Spirits' Angels). We have zero hints as to the actual number of the "First Spirit" so it's quite open to debate at this point.
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2013-05-29, 04:15 | Link #2999 | |||
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To elaborate on my point, her kindness is the "twisted" kind; by making it so that spirits never existed in this world, she's thereby sparing them of the pain they would endure if they existed. This is what I think Phantom meant. Quote:
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