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MeoTwister5 · 2013-07-09, 01:18

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Originally Posted by FredFriendly

Being my most anticipated anime of the summer 2013 season, I couldn't wait for a subbed version to be available, so I watched it RAW. What a surreal experience! I can't say that I was disappointed. Quite the contrary, even without understanding a word of the extra large portion of dialogue, it was a blast!

I'm glad they didn't try to "cuten" (is that even a word?) Tomoko up to make her less unattractive to the audience. So far, I'd say they got the essence of the manga down pretty darn good. I just hope eventual subs don't lose anything in the translation.

Moreso than the OP, I enjoyed the ED, not for the tune, but for the very effective, creative use of minimal graphics.

As usual, thanks!

I never found Tomoko to be unattractive in the manga. I mean sure she looks better in the adaptation but I never thought she was ugly.

Or maybe I'm just biased. I admittedly have a thing for the neurotic.

Traece · 2013-07-09, 01:22

Since I queued up the shows I intend to watch this season I've been quite excited to see this one. This seemed like it would fill a spot left by Yahari, and ultimately it has.

I'm not familiar with WATAMOTE at all, but I'm very interested. This was some nice comedy for a first episode, and I liked the idea of it. I actually ended up pitying her quite a bit because she's actually rather cute. I have a feeling that this is going to be episodes of her undoing her own acceptable image by trying too hard.

That opening was, uh... A bit of a surprise.

I was getting concerned for a moment because of how dark it was. For a moment I thought that I had walked into the completely wrong genre!

hamazura · 2013-07-09, 02:37

Uhh... I watched the subs.... Dont know why but i cant get the 'feel' when i read the manga...
im not even laugh or grin a bit while when i was reading the manga i always ROFL -_-

Blonto · 2013-07-09, 03:10

Ok, what is up with so many recent anime that have "I'm a lone, friendless loser and a social reject" as their premise? Do people really relate and want to read about that?
I tried reading the manga and this girl is just so pitiful to watch. Maybe I'd enjoy it more if the market wasn't crawling with these types of stories.
The opening is hilarious though.

Libros · 2013-07-09, 04:27

That OP sounded like it was taken straight out of one of the most badass action animes of all time. As for the episode itself, I liked it. It was pretty funny though..I can't say I didn't pity Tomoko just a little bit at times. Also, Is it odd that I sort of feel like Tomoko is kind of adorable?

Trogdor Jube · 2013-07-09, 04:48

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Originally Posted by Blonto

Ok, what is up with so many recent anime that have "I'm a lone, friendless loser and a social reject" as their premise? Do people really relate and want to read about that?

Do you really need to ask that?
People tend to like what they can relate to

Dr. Casey · 2013-07-09, 04:58

It shouldn't be as much of a problem in future episodes if I watch them whenever I'm well-rested and energized (I watched the premiere while drained and worn out), but much of the humor centering around Tomoko's early days as a Freshman in high school stung more than they amused as they hit a little too close to home for me. It's like it's really 2002 again.

I enjoyed watching this, though, during the scenes that didn't have anything to do with high school and thus didn't make me want to put a bullet through my head (that's a joke). I love Tomoko's elation over every single vaguely successful social interaction she pulls off, and she's so cute whenever she's too shy to speak in anything but a tiny voice.

S-S-Sayonara... Also, dat ass. That alone should be enough to ensure her some popularity. I don't normally even care about butts much at all, but I noticed that whenever she was crawling forward in her brother's room around 12 minutes into the episode that hers is rather nice.

Jaden · 2013-07-09, 05:17

Well, uh...this kind of works as an anime? Great OP/ED. I like the voice actress. I wish they put more emphasis on the gags though, because this is going to give people the wrong impression. For the longest time manga readers were expecting other substantial characters to be introduced, expecting Kuroki to develop as a character, and expecting longer dramatic story arcs. Because with this setting, those are the usual kinds of developments.

But no, what you see is what you get, it's just a gag anime...or perhaps a cringe anime with a rather narrow target audience.Unless they're going to surprise us in a big way. :P

jeroz · 2013-07-09, 05:45

Spoiler for so you are telling me:

That this is not huggable?

edited btw

HandofFate · 2013-07-09, 06:04

Can't tell if I like Tomoko's voice or not. Can't decide if it be better more 'anime-ish' or more 'regular talking narrative' kind of like Turning Girls.

Wonder if they're gonna do anything creative with the narrative since the manga was mainly just short stories with no real cohesion.

As far as the jokes go, I wish it had better delivery or more punch of the end results of them. I compare the manga close to Curb Your Enthusiasm, where a lot of the end results just makes you cringe or get embarrassed for her. In the anime, its just "oh okay" then it goes on to the next scene with no transition or hint that it was the end of the scene.

I did enjoy the conversation Tomoko had with her brother. Really nice relationship. I don't think I seen many younger brothers in animes with a female lead that isn't a total toddler. Tomoko's voice is pretty good to listen to when she talks on for an extended period of time. Too bad most of the narrations even are so short. But once she gets the talking going, it flows really well.

jeroz · 2013-07-09, 06:12

to be honest, the set up of this first episode does feel like a drama series instead of comedy.

Traece · 2013-07-09, 06:35

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Originally Posted by jeroz

So you are telling me
That this is not huggable?

Eh, tails... I prefer when she has her hair normally, but she is huggable.

I honestly thought her cutest scene was the black and white still after his brother says the "Woah! Who is this freaking ugly chick?!" line.

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Originally Posted by HandofFate

Can't tell if I like Tomoko's voice or not. Can't decide if it be better more 'anime-ish' or more 'regular talking narrative' kind of like Turning Girls.

I do like her voice. It's cute, and the voice actor has some subtle inflections that really make it work. Plus it's kind of an unusual voice compared to the normal sorts we get.

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I did enjoy the conversation Tomoko had with her brother. Really nice relationship. I don't think I seen many younger brothers in animes with a female lead that isn't a total toddler. Tomoko's voice is pretty good to listen to when she talks on for an extended period of time. Too bad most of the narrations even are so short. But once she gets the talking going, it flows really well.

What surprised me was that her brother really is her younger brother. When she referred to him as her "little" brother and I saw him, I thought it was a joke. He looks older no matter how you look at him.

Her conversations with him were really fantastic though. Her monologues as well are nice to listen to. Admittedly though, some of them do slur together a little bit. They have a really strange brother and sister relationship that kind of sells this for me a little bit. A strange dynamic where she's older but unpopular, and he's younger and popular. It's completely strange.

backbone · 2013-07-09, 06:58

Err . . is this supposed to be funny? Our female lead's antics hardly made me laugh and at best, i just chuckled. It doesn't help that she delivered her inner monologue in rather bland and bleak tone for the most part, leaving me cringed instead of laughed. It's thanks to her brother and his extreme bluntness and cruel talk that saved this eps for me.

Oh and i'm calling it now. This show has the best OP song of the season!

D-KLAC · 2013-07-09, 07:13

ep.1

tomoko is female who ready for high school give having lots experience due to playing lots high school dating game but reality kick in nobody notice her in any way.

cause she see those high school students are just blah to her so after go look in the mirror in her style she puke due looking like the Walking Dead so after i-net search for ways to be cute.

tomoko tried show her "cute" side to her brother but it was a brain bleach right now & then go ask her brother for advice & ideas so she get notice in school.

so next day she slowly talk to other peoples yet seem working well even trying to normal high school doing til arrive at wcdonald til still high school students go do makeover look got bit mention.

til her brother appear go like seriously that look cause her brother's classmate called her stink cue crash & burn til brother arrive there always next time.

DXMichael · 2013-07-09, 07:25

I see now why a lot of people were looking forward to this anime

The main character is just plain crazy XD She's the definition of obsessed

I like that in this anime it's actually showing how she struggles to not only make friends, but to even talk to people. Usually anime has the same scenario of having a character that is alone, but by the end of the episode they had joined a club or made a friend. It looks like it's going to take more than one episode for this main character lol

She's so innocently cute at times and I feel sorry for her a lot of the times XD

Goty · 2013-07-09, 07:42

Best thing about the first episode was the duckface, that actually made her much uglier. I always hated it, can't believe there are people who think it's a cute thing to do.

Oh and i love how she kept saying she needs to "recover her old conversation skills".

Ceral · 2013-07-09, 07:49

This show is straight-up, the truth, no sugar-coating here. Just watching the social ineptness was painful, but there's something about seeing someone in a humiliating situation that's intriguing. I'm laughing and relating at how sad Tomoko is, it's almost like this show is made for the sadistic sides of people. Other shows have painful moments, but when it's the entire subject matter, it's a refreshing premise I haven't seen.

I find Tomoko's looks interesting from the creator's standpoint, on one hand they need her to be ugly to match the premise. But then the target demographic and genre, would suggest that the main heroine always needs to be cute and pretty. I think her looks strike a perfect balance for her role, not ugly enough to be a distraction, but not so cute I'm in disbelief about her not being popular. There's actually nothing wrong with the geometry of her face, it's just those bags under her eyes, even on Middle-aged characters in anime these days, they have near perfect skin.

Looks like a solid anime to watch this season.

omimon · 2013-07-09, 08:53

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Originally Posted by Blonto

Ok, what is up with so many recent anime that have "I'm a lone, friendless loser and a social reject" as their premise? Do people really relate and want to read about that?
I tried reading the manga and this girl is just so pitiful to watch. Maybe I'd enjoy it more if the market wasn't crawling with these types of stories.
The opening is hilarious though.

This series is different though, the other series end up with the MC have a ton a friends in the end while Tomoki is forever alone.

BTW the first episode was as painful to watch as I anticipated it and it was GREAT!

Chaos2Frozen · 2013-07-09, 08:55

...I just found my cutest Anime this season so far

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Originally Posted by jeroz

Spoiler for so you are telling me:

I'll take it good sir

!

P.S - Also, the OP is WAY too badass for a show like this

And the ED is hilariously cynical as well with it's lyrics

Kanon · 2013-07-09, 09:16

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Originally Posted by MeoTwister5

I never found Tomoko to be unattractive in the manga. I mean sure she looks better in the adaptation but I never thought she was ugly.

Or maybe I'm just biased. I admittedly have a thing for the neurotic.

As her brother said, she's average. Not ugly, not pretty - just plain average. That's why she goes unnoticed. That and her personality.

2013-07-09, 01:22	Link #142
Traece :cool: Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Idaho Age: 32	Since I queued up the shows I intend to watch this season I've been quite excited to see this one. This seemed like it would fill a spot left by Yahari, and ultimately it has. I'm not familiar with WATAMOTE at all, but I'm very interested. This was some nice comedy for a first episode, and I liked the idea of it. I actually ended up pitying her quite a bit because she's actually rather cute. I have a feeling that this is going to be episodes of her undoing her own acceptable image by trying too hard. That opening was, uh... A bit of a surprise. I was getting concerned for a moment because of how dark it was. For a moment I thought that I had walked into the completely wrong genre! __________________

2013-07-09, 04:27	Link #145
Libros I never hid my hurts. Join Date: May 2012 Location: Where the wild things are--Hell.	That OP sounded like it was taken straight out of one of the most badass action animes of all time. As for the episode itself, I liked it. It was pretty funny though..I can't say I didn't pity Tomoko just a little bit at times. Also, Is it odd that I sort of feel like Tomoko is kind of adorable? __________________ "Let the flesh instruct the mind" - Claudia, Sister Death, Interview with a vampire by Anne rice Last edited by Libros; 2013-07-09 at 04:39.

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Jaden Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006	Well, uh...this kind of works as an anime? Great OP/ED. I like the voice actress. I wish they put more emphasis on the gags though, because this is going to give people the wrong impression. For the longest time manga readers were expecting other substantial characters to be introduced, expecting Kuroki to develop as a character, and expecting longer dramatic story arcs. Because with this setting, those are the usual kinds of developments. But no, what you see is what you get, it's just a gag anime...or perhaps a cringe anime with a rather narrow target audience.Unless they're going to surprise us in a big way. :P __________________

2013-07-09, 05:45	Link #149
jeroz Art Block Specialist Join Date: Jun 2007	Spoiler for so you are telling me: That this is not huggable? edited btw __________________ [TAC]

2013-07-09, 06:12	Link #151
jeroz Art Block Specialist Join Date: Jun 2007	to be honest, the set up of this first episode does feel like a drama series instead of comedy. __________________ [TAC]

2013-07-09, 02:37	Link #143
hamazura whatever Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: wherever	Uhh... I watched the subs.... Dont know why but i cant get the 'feel' when i read the manga... im not even laugh or grin a bit while when i was reading the manga i always ROFL -_-

2013-07-09, 03:10	Link #144
Blonto Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Age: 31	Ok, what is up with so many recent anime that have "I'm a lone, friendless loser and a social reject" as their premise? Do people really relate and want to read about that? I tried reading the manga and this girl is just so pitiful to watch. Maybe I'd enjoy it more if the market wasn't crawling with these types of stories. The opening is hilarious though.

2013-07-09, 04:58	Link #147
Dr. Casey Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Tennessee Age: 36	It shouldn't be as much of a problem in future episodes if I watch them whenever I'm well-rested and energized (I watched the premiere while drained and worn out), but much of the humor centering around Tomoko's early days as a Freshman in high school stung more than they amused as they hit a little too close to home for me. It's like it's really 2002 again. I enjoyed watching this, though, during the scenes that didn't have anything to do with high school and thus didn't make me want to put a bullet through my head (that's a joke). I love Tomoko's elation over every single vaguely successful social interaction she pulls off, and she's so cute whenever she's too shy to speak in anything but a tiny voice. S-S-Sayonara... Also, dat ass. That alone should be enough to ensure her some popularity. I don't normally even care about butts much at all, but I noticed that whenever she was crawling forward in her brother's room around 12 minutes into the episode that hers is rather nice.

2013-07-09, 06:04	Link #150
HandofFate Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006	Can't tell if I like Tomoko's voice or not. Can't decide if it be better more 'anime-ish' or more 'regular talking narrative' kind of like Turning Girls. Wonder if they're gonna do anything creative with the narrative since the manga was mainly just short stories with no real cohesion. As far as the jokes go, I wish it had better delivery or more punch of the end results of them. I compare the manga close to Curb Your Enthusiasm, where a lot of the end results just makes you cringe or get embarrassed for her. In the anime, its just "oh okay" then it goes on to the next scene with no transition or hint that it was the end of the scene. I did enjoy the conversation Tomoko had with her brother. Really nice relationship. I don't think I seen many younger brothers in animes with a female lead that isn't a total toddler. Tomoko's voice is pretty good to listen to when she talks on for an extended period of time. Too bad most of the narrations even are so short. But once she gets the talking going, it flows really well.

2013-07-09, 06:58	Link #153
backbone Banned Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: East Asia Age: 32	Err . . is this supposed to be funny? Our female lead's antics hardly made me laugh and at best, i just chuckled. It doesn't help that she delivered her inner monologue in rather bland and bleak tone for the most part, leaving me cringed instead of laughed. It's thanks to her brother and his extreme bluntness and cruel talk that saved this eps for me. Oh and i'm calling it now. This show has the best OP song of the season!

2013-07-09, 07:13	Link #154
D-KLAC KLAC OF THE ANIME WORLD Join Date: May 2007 Location: gs series Age: 34	ep.1 tomoko is female who ready for high school give having lots experience due to playing lots high school dating game but reality kick in nobody notice her in any way. cause she see those high school students are just blah to her so after go look in the mirror in her style she puke due looking like the Walking Dead so after i-net search for ways to be cute. tomoko tried show her "cute" side to her brother but it was a brain bleach right now & then go ask her brother for advice & ideas so she get notice in school. so next day she slowly talk to other peoples yet seem working well even trying to normal high school doing til arrive at wcdonald til still high school students go do makeover look got bit mention. til her brother appear go like seriously that look cause her brother's classmate called her stink cue crash & burn til brother arrive there always next time. __________________ ONCE A GS ALWAYS A GS A KLAC IS JUST TOO COMMIT, HONOR, LOYALTY, PRIDE, ETC TO WORLD OF ANIME WALKING THE PATH OF KLAC ON THE JOURNEY THORUGH THE KLAC-ERA YOU EITHER ANIME NEXUS http://myanimelist.net/clubs.php?cid=24159 OR AGAINST THE ANIME http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6WFM...eature=related KLAC OF PERSONALITY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqyG8w0iMPw

2013-07-09, 07:25	Link #155
DXMichael Psycho Falling Deep Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: The Anime World Age: 29	I see now why a lot of people were looking forward to this anime The main character is just plain crazy XD She's the definition of obsessed I like that in this anime it's actually showing how she struggles to not only make friends, but to even talk to people. Usually anime has the same scenario of having a character that is alone, but by the end of the episode they had joined a club or made a friend. It looks like it's going to take more than one episode for this main character lol She's so innocently cute at times and I feel sorry for her a lot of the times XD __________________

2013-07-09, 07:42	Link #156
Goty Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005	Best thing about the first episode was the duckface, that actually made her much uglier. I always hated it, can't believe there are people who think it's a cute thing to do. Oh and i love how she kept saying she needs to "recover her old conversation skills".

2013-07-09, 07:49	Link #157
Ceral はりゃほれうまうーっ! Join Date: Nov 2007	This show is straight-up, the truth, no sugar-coating here. Just watching the social ineptness was painful, but there's something about seeing someone in a humiliating situation that's intriguing. I'm laughing and relating at how sad Tomoko is, it's almost like this show is made for the sadistic sides of people. Other shows have painful moments, but when it's the entire subject matter, it's a refreshing premise I haven't seen. I find Tomoko's looks interesting from the creator's standpoint, on one hand they need her to be ugly to match the premise. But then the target demographic and genre, would suggest that the main heroine always needs to be cute and pretty. I think her looks strike a perfect balance for her role, not ugly enough to be a distraction, but not so cute I'm in disbelief about her not being popular. There's actually nothing wrong with the geometry of her face, it's just those bags under her eyes, even on Middle-aged characters in anime these days, they have near perfect skin. Looks like a solid anime to watch this season.