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View Poll Results: Suzumiya Haruhi (2009) - Episode 07 Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 26 | 9.22% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 9 | 3.19% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 11 | 3.90% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 16 | 5.67% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 11 | 3.90% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 14 | 4.96% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 9 | 3.19% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 8 | 2.84% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 11 | 3.90% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 167 | 59.22% | |
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2009-07-23, 15:16 | Link #202 | |
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So no, I don't think we'll be seeing a real S2 or that tenth novel, ever. |
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2009-07-23, 15:16 | Link #203 |
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This episode gets a 2/10, since the animation is great and all, but the content have been copied so many times that it just become a big pile of fail...
Do better next time Kadokawa and stop photocopying the same content from the last 5 episodes.
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2009-07-23, 15:20 | Link #205 | |
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Burning money for a gag during an economic downturn isn't a very smart thing for an entertainment company to do. They can never know when they could have genuinely needed it. The Moties of trapped in an endless recursion of their cycle of overpopulation, total war and societal collapse much like we are stuck with endlessly repeating cycles of Endless 8. I thought it was somewhat similar. Also, you win one free internet for catching the reference.
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2009-07-23, 15:21 | Link #206 | |
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People worry so much about things they can't change... At that time, they can just start animating the novels the way everyone keeps wanting them to, and then... |
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2009-07-23, 15:24 | Link #207 | |
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2009-07-23, 15:26 | Link #209 |
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Let me put it this way: for starting this re-airing or second season or whatever you want to call it, only for it to be at least half a hoax, they are assholes. If the president of Kyoani or Kadokawa invited me to his birthday party, I would not go, not even for free cake and ice cream.
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2009-07-23, 15:29 | Link #210 | ||
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Have the E8 episodes on their own DVD's. Divide the E8 episodes amongst the DVD's With the first one the malcontents will skip on the episodes filled with E8 and only buy the non E8 DVD's The second one will likely have more of the malcontents cave in and buy the entire season for the part that's not E8, but that will be canceled out by the Malcontents who won't buy any of the DVD's because of E8. Indeed. The cake is a lie.
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2009-07-23, 15:31 | Link #212 | |
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I'd go for the cake and ice cream. I'm genuinely interested in knowing how they came up with this idea in the first place. I'd love to hear the whole story at some point, not that I think it'll ever be exposed... Agreed. That's what makes this so fascinating; it defies most of what we think of as logical explanations. The only options are that there's a logic we don't see, or that it's just pure random chaos. Either way, it's interesting because it doesn't happen very often. |
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2009-07-23, 15:41 | Link #214 | ||
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I'm saying that this Endless Eight fiasco is probably hurting the Haruhi anime - possibly long term - amongst potential new fans. It would have been better if Season 2 had given the hardcore Haruhi fans more of what they wanted so that we'd have a positive buzz going which would help to bring in more potential new fans. These new anime episodes could have brought in new fans - it's not happening. Not from what I've seen on a few different boards, anyway. Aside from being an utter joke on more generic anime boards and pop fiction boards, Haruhi Season 2 (or whatever you want to call this) isn't getting talked about at all on these boards. Even if this is all just for marketing purposes - even if it's just to set-up the true Season 2; it's wasteful marketing. How many new fans do you honestly think Endless Eight is bringing in? Compare that to the new fans that could have been brought in if you had the production values and animation quality of Endless Eight but with actual plot progression. Even pure plot filler would likely be better than this (marketing wise), and attract more fans. Like another person said on this thread... I'll never complain about something like the Bounts arc in Bleach ever again because of this. I've read the destruction of Planet Namek compared favorably to this. |
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2009-07-23, 15:43 | Link #215 | |
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2009-07-23, 15:47 | Link #216 |
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Agreed. It's pure marketing stupidity.
This is why I have absolutely no faith in seeing anything Haruhi-related after this finishes airing, EVER. Why would they? It'd make sense. They've only accomplished three things: a) proving that they're idiots, b) destroying KyoAni's reputation, and c) turning Haruhi into a fucking joke. None of which will net them any money. They're more likely to lose it. |
2009-07-23, 15:50 | Link #218 | |
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If it's publicity, it's very expensive and, though it DOES work in making people talk about the show, it's not in very flattering tones. And as someone said, it's not because people are interested in watching a train wreck, they'll want to PAY to watch it. If it's artistic license, it seems hard to not see it's been pushed too far by a LONG way. If it's internal drama between Kadokawa and KyoAni... well, people like to know about drama Anyway, knowing at least the reasons about all this, is sure to be entertaining - sadly, it's sure to be much more entertaining than the EE itself, which is shamefully twisted for an entertainement show. But I doubt we'll ever have the real reason behind all this - I'm afraid that companies in general aren't too prone to speak about their secrets, and asian ones have the reputation to be even more secretive. |
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2009-07-23, 15:57 | Link #219 |
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Join Date: Feb 2009
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A play on a line from a song comes to mind...
If you're wondering why they troll and tease and other business facts...just repeat to yourself, "It's just a show, I should really just relax." 8/10 episode, if only because of the continued "outrage" of the fan base.
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2009-07-23, 16:03 | Link #220 | |
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That's a dead-end, and you know it. They're in a timeloop, and have only made changes that would allow them to continue showing loops without novel readers knowing when it was going to end. It's pretty essential to the concept they're pulling off. It's faithful except to the extent that being faithful would preclude them from keeping the surprise factor that they clearly wanted, so I'm not sure how to measure that "fault".
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I'm not trying to defend this as some sort of inspired move that's without parallel, or was the best of all the options they could have chosen. None of us know why they did this. I'm just saying that I have my doubts about the long-term consequences of this move. They obviously felt they wanted to re-air the show and add some new content. What they added was one new episode and this looping story arc, which had the effect of messing with the audience. Could they have sold more DVDs if they had just done what everyone wanted? I don't know... maybe? probably? possibly? Who knows... Will the show sell as well when they do eventually do what people want? Will there be a noted drop in DVD sales for the next season that's as a direct result of Endless Eight? Will said drop be significant enough to have any impact whatsoever on the future of this anime franchise? In all cases, we'll see. We're just playing armchair CEO here, and we don't have enough information or experience to make actual judgement calls. But if you think I'm trying to defend this whole thing as a "smart decision", I'm not. I'm just saying that I wonder whether it'll really end up being as stupid as people think. |
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