2013-07-06, 19:40 | Link #1 |
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Methods and Possibilities for Defeating Accelerator [Speculation]
Why is it that Accelerator is unbeatable? Why no one can beat him?
So Mikoto can't figure out the way that to penetrate Accelerator's repeling abilities? Then I'm lost, I'm lost like how Accelerator stepping on a thug that is beaten effortlessly, I'm that thug. |
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It's not that he's unbeatable it's just that Misaka doesn't have either the extremely intimate knowledge of his powers, or the kind of ability that he couldn't block, that would be required for her to be able to defeat him Some people in the series can beat him, in fact there are some people in the series who would crush him like a grape. But Misaka isn't one of them.
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2013-07-06, 20:11 | Link #3 | |
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1. Accel as the #1 lvl5 in AC has the highest computation power. In shear power and brains she already lost. 2. Exp, Accel has been through 10000+ fights that are design to increase his power. Mikoto does not simply has that kind of battle experience. 3. Mikoto is not a killer. Despite her burst of anger at Accel for killing 9982, she does not have the willingness to kill that Accel has. Mikoto can overcome 1 and 2 if she has access to the Misaka network but she no idea of the network so that is a moot point. To over come #3 she is going to need to turn into entirely different Mikoto, a Mikoto steep in the darkness of AC. they can beat him but i doubt they can just crush him.
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Impenetrable defense, and extremely effective offense. Misaka's best possible attempt against Accelerator would be an indirect attack, such as destroying all the oxygen around Accelerator to suffocate him. Except if he figures out what she's doing he can counter that easily by generating wind. So a powerful nuke might kill him by depriving him of oxygen. An indirect magic attack might defeat him- such as a spell that cause people hostile to the spells target to pass out- but even that may depend on whether or not the is a vector involved and whether Accelerator can identify that vector. (For example, this hypothetical spell might have a vector involved in identifying who the hostility is pointed at- in that case Accelerator could theoretically counter it directly). Is there a vector-less attack? That is the first requirement to bypass Accelerator's passive defenses. Then you'd also need to have it be immune or shielded from an active attempt at disruption using vectors.
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In fact, I can even see the Sisters zapping him with their measly power after correctly evaluating and testing how his reflection worked, perhaps around Sister no. 19990... EDIT: Ok, correction, it might need to happen much earlier than 19990 if the goal is level 6... |
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2013-07-06, 21:09 | Link #7 |
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No, attacks that are vectorless can.
Magic attacks (ie non-scientific attacks) might be vectorless, but they also can have vectors. For example, a magic attack that consists of launching a fireball at Accelerator will fail, because the attack ultimately has a vector.
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2013-07-06, 22:24 | Link #9 | |
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It's been argued whether Kuroko's teleportation works with the same principle, but the safest assumption is to say it does too. Regardless, Mikoto would never involve Kuroko with such a dangerous thing, not to mention ask her to kill anyone, for all that matters. |
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2013-07-06, 22:39 | Link #10 | |
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2013-07-06, 23:54 | Link #12 |
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As an aside for you debating folks ( I highly suspect this discussion will be moved or deleted. ).
Accelerator has the ability to adapt to unknown laws with regard to his shield through continued exposure to said unknown laws. Though directed "vectorless" attacks can still ( probably, you never know ) hit him. |
2013-07-07, 00:16 | Link #13 |
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The limit of Accelerator is the author's preference. It is the only truth.
Else, Accelerator can simply beat Touma by calculating the vector of Touma's leg movement. It is the only truth. Since Accelerator never encounter any magic, some people's confidence about Accerlator's loss is questionable statement. It would be a discussion for the imagination thread. The encounter has 999 possible results, such as Accelerator may end up turning magic into bubbles.
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2013-07-07, 02:04 | Link #18 |
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Accel is not unbeatable... you just need a specific power and right timing.... power basen on chaning vectors... you attack accel and before it hits his barrier you change the vector of the attack to the opposite... so accels shield would turn that vector again and it would make it fly into his own dirrection
mikotos attacks are streigh line attack based generally... so it wont have any use on accel... but she can create passive attacks with it like clone showed... create ozone to try and suffocate accel.... I guess bio bombs would work on him too...especially those that have no smell.... he would breath it in and without even noticing he is dieing... magic might work too I guess... curse like magic... no fireballs ect. as they all have vectors. |
2013-07-07, 15:56 | Link #20 |
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Now that I think about it isn't there a really simple spell that defeats flying people? It's the reason so few magicians fly iirc. If that doesn't use any vectors than pretty much any magician could beat Accelerator if he decides to start using his tornadoes.
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