2013-03-10, 11:07 | Link #61 | |
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So, I'll believe that Urobutcher will play nice when the last few minutes of the last episode ends.
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2013-03-10, 12:33 | Link #62 |
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I agree that Urobuchi doesn't just use "death" to shock the audience. The fact that the audience was shocked at Mami's death was more because of the genre, but Urobuchi's deaths are not just pointless and do move the story in important ways.
However I wouldn't say that Urobuchi never relies on shock value (although perhaps this is more the director's fault not Urobuchi). For example some of the violent scenes in Psycho Pass (especially during the riots) were a bit too much for me. I didn't really like how the rape scene was done in the first episode either. And in Fate Zero the scene with Rin's mom and Kariya I felt was also over the top. I just felt some of those scenes were a bit much!
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2013-03-10, 15:24 | Link #63 |
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Urobuchi Gen is not about body counts. There are countless shows that put out tons of carnage for the audience. And yes, his deaths also tend to serve a point. The infamy of Urobuchi Gen is the sheer despair he manages to bring to the audience with the deaths of his characters.
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2013-03-10, 15:58 | Link #64 | |
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That was my main takeaway from Mami's death scene. That death is going to be very realistic in a Gen work, and you may well not get the cliche bit where the fallen hero gets to voice some final words to his or her comrades. Of course, this could make his deaths more disturbing for some. Some probably laugh off Another and Blood+ because it's so insanely over-the-top. You can't really do that with a Gen death, imo.
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2013-03-10, 16:08 | Link #65 |
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Triple, Gen is messing with us, perhaps.
"Oh, you thought someone would die here... nope, they have to serve a purpose still, and maybe it'd be better if they died now... but too bad!" I need to catch up on PP though. /dodges trash thrown in my direction
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2013-03-10, 16:12 | Link #66 | |
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When I say over-the-top I don't mean in the Blood-C variety but the violence and disturbing aspect of those scenes linger too much for me, if I have one criticism of Gen. But like I said I am not really sure if Gen or the director is at fault in these cases.
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2013-03-10, 16:29 | Link #68 | |
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In high levels of any game, players know that there's a certain pattern that exists and other players and the audience run along those expectations. But they get that extra edge by using this against them. The same goes for experienced writers like Gen. And then they flip the table by doing the predictable thing we overlook, because it's too predictable. He is a Dangerously Genre Savvy Villain, Triple. So he knows what we think he knows. :S
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2013-03-10, 17:33 | Link #71 | |
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His scripts can be pretty vague, for example in Madoka the script would just say "Homura fights Walpurgis Night" but how that fight looked was all up to the rest of the creative staff.
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2013-03-10, 17:52 | Link #72 | |
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Anyways, I'd imagine that a fair number of the creative staff had significant input into how the Dominators work. Their impact on how the violence is framed in the show is too significant to suggest otherwise.
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2013-03-10, 17:53 | Link #73 | |
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Anyway, I agree Urobuchi is not the butcher some people are making him out to be. He doesn't kill or torture his characters for fun. Everything has a purpose in his narrative, and that's why I like him. I don't think he's all that "darker" than other writers, he just has the balls to do what needs to be done. Too many writers are scared to kill their characters because of the fan backlash. He, on the other hand, doesn't give a damn. His story is his first priority.
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2013-03-19, 19:41 | Link #76 | |
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If you go way back, there's Phantom: Requiem of a Phantom. Although IIRC, he only wrote a few episodes of that. He's also wrote many VNs, probably the most famous of which being Saya no Uta (be warned! That VN is known to cause nightmares ).
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2013-03-19, 19:45 | Link #77 | |
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Besides that there are only some other visual novels written by Urobuchi, since he started off as a writer for nitroplus and only recently got into the anime industry (as far as I know). |
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