Mobile Suit Gundam 00 Second Season - Episode 23 Discussion / Poll

[CC]

Probably the most "o shi" moment in the series;

Spoiler for Large Screencap from Ep 23:

Baw fucking Ali Al-Saachez, even if I knew this might happen... ;_; Regennnnnne.

[bran]

Originally Posted by CC

Baw fucking Ali Al-Saachez, even if I knew this might happen... ;_; Regennnnnne.

x2 he was my fav innovator

[Ardi220288]

hahaha what an episode. The action realy intense. Can't wait for next one

[LordStrike]

Originally Posted by CC

Probably the most "o shi" moment in the series;

Spoiler for Large Screencap from Ep 23:

Baw fucking Ali Al-Saachez, even if I knew this might happen... ;_; Regennnnnne.

Originally Posted by bran

x2 he was my fav innovator

yea he was cool O_O he will be miss T_T

[RDF2050]

Noooooooooooooooo patrick not you pease gundam 00 will not be the same with your jokes .

I fininished watch the Raw dam it not patrick please keep him alive.

8/10 becuase patrick see he is death.

[Roadie]

You hope that Patrick isn't dead and you apparently rate the episode 8 because you then say he is dead?

[Roadie]

Or that Regene's little trouble really was megalomania and he just wanted to claim ownership of the original plan for himself...

[Eleutheria]

What was the point of having mass-produced clones when the new trans-am suits are just suicide bombs? Just for the sake of the WTF shot last episode?

Well, I'd long since given up on thinking about the show - just watching the flow is fine.

My heart goes out to those users who post on weapons and mecha speculation... Sunrise changes the rules too often

[Roadie]

That was their point- Ribbons created them to kill them. And I highly doubt Gagas out of Trans-Am could stand up to Gundams especially when they're piloted by mindless drones.

[Anavel]

So the mass produced Tau Drives now have Trans-Am? That's really lame.

[Glio]

If they made it once, they can make more. And since Ribbons basically has unlimited resources, go for it.

[Roadie]

Not only that, they've also apparently gained the ability to make topological defects...from what I read earlier in this thread. Which makes them GN Drives, I guess.

[Galerian]

I don't get it.

Everything went pew pew and then everyting went KABOOM....

...and what started as a great series with great characters on both side ended up as this battle royal in which story and character development were the first casualties.

I was never a fan of the Innovator related stuff. I hoped that they were more a mid-level boss and that characters like Sergei, Katy and Ali would ultimately be the show's final 'bosses'. Sergei is dead, Katy, Soma and Patrick are CB sidekicks, Ali a mere lacky to Ribbons, and Graham: who knows? Not the direction I was hoping for. And now I find myself not caring how this will end.

The only thing I am really interested in is Patrick's possible end. He could be dead. He sacrificied himself for Katy, they called each other by their names and he went KABOOM. It is a good death and I am only upset that we won't see him again. Then again. We also had a different colour of smoke and what seemed to be some MS-part blasting off again. So he could be alive. I still have hope. If he is alive; he probably is badly injured and in the epilogue we'll see Katy caring for a hospitalized Patrick.

We'll see.

PS: What a worthless clone army. An entire Trans-am powered innovator army and it did not manage to slaughter CB outright. Talk about depreciation of battle assets. Lucky Ribbons had a cloaked battle fortress (what a big suprise that one was). I await the ultimate plan to destroy the earth/human race for next episode.

[Roadie]

Well, it should have been clear from the start that the first four characters you mentioned were either going to die or join CB- and the show went to notable lengths to display that Soma and Kati were ill at ease about A-LAWS' methods, and Patrick follows Kati without objection, so yeah. Graham's pretty much the standard masked guy- can't break such a longstanding tradition after all- and Ali pretty much had to be Ribbons' lackey to carry on killing.

Not really a depreciation when he has hundreds of them under his command...

[Ottocycle]

With Ptolemy going Trans-am on its own without a Gundam in it this episode, a fair bit of of the interesting quantum physics speculation has been rendered moot, along with my impression that 00 being the series most rooted in hard science. Well it still can be, if we look at pre-episode17 00.

But well, most of this series' viewers have never been people bothered with hard science. Considering that Very Good(And Well-Researched) Science Fiction Storytelling(TM) got the TBS people really bad ratings for a primetime timeslot(see Toward the Terra), it's not hard to see how series producers cave in to the pressures of capitalism. An inevitability, I guess, especially in the current economic climate.

The show's still entertaining though, still gotta hand it to them for that.

[brightman]

Originally Posted by humbug23

With Ptolemy going Trans-am on its own without a Gundam in it this episode, a fair bit of of the interesting quantum physics speculation has been rendered moot, along with my impression that 00 being the series most rooted in hard science. Well it still can be, if we look at pre-episode17 00.

GN Condensers can go Trans-Am too. Its just that after Trans-Aming it would have released all its particles and basically be powerless. Since Ptolemy isn't going anywhere after this there's no plothole here.

[LordStrike]

man i wonder whats going to happen to somarie -_-" anyway another cool thing was the face healing made wen she found out that tieria wasn't there in his gundam XD oh and the face tieria made wile pointing at ribbons was cool he has become such cool character

[Nightwing(T_T)]

now that is one totally action pack episode. it really get me on the edge of my seat. damn they should have made it one hour.

[Galerian]

Originally Posted by Roadie

Well, it should have been clear from the start that the first four characters you mentioned were either going to die or join CB- and the show went to notable lengths to display that Soma and Kati were ill at ease about A-LAWS' methods, and Patrick follows Kati without objection, so yeah. Graham's pretty much the standard masked guy- can't break such a longstanding tradition after all- and Ali pretty much had to be Ribbons' lackey to carry on killing.

Not really a depreciation when he has hundreds of them under his command...

I think you have a limited view on story telling potentional. Katy/Patrick (the duo, not the individuals as such), Soma, and Ali all were great characters in their own right. Now they are nothing more than appendages of CB or Ribbons. With a little more screen time (at the cost of those empty innovators) they could have been great opponents with their own reasons and view of the world.

And ESPECIALLY a depreciation when he has hundreds of them. What did they accomplish? The Destruction of the CB ship nobody cared about! With kamikaze attacks no less. Seriously do you even need clones for that? It took 4 of them to maybe kill Patrick. Four! Although it pains me to say it: a transam powered innovator suit should be able to fly circles arround Patrick. They should be able to fight a Gundam one on one. Maybe the raw will reveal some info on these clones and their suits (maybe the clones are vegetables and their suits are nothing more than missiles). I am curious, but I doubt any good explanation will be given.

[Ottocycle]

Originally Posted by brightman

GN Condensers can go Trans-Am too. Its just that after Trans-Aming it would have released all its particles and basically be powerless. Since Ptolemy isn't going anywhere after this there's no plothole here.

When/Where was that said? Official Files?