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RobotCat · 2013-10-12, 00:23

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Originally Posted by anime fan99

okay what is a guardian is it like a Warrior

of RPG classes I only know warrior mage and Rogue

I agree with Naotsugu about the two type of perverts But I do not agree on it only applies to men, women also can be open pervert or not open pervert

all the anime fans that Complain about Ecchi and fanservice are not open pervert

Guardian is usually a defensive warrior, ie Paladin in WoW, Crusader in Ragnarok, Templar in Aion etc. They are usually the main tanks, and have skills that reduce damage of their party members.

Puu · 2013-10-12, 00:30

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Originally Posted by RobotCat

Guardian is usually a defensive warrior, ie Paladin in WoW, Crusader in Ragnarok, Templar in Aion etc. They are usually the main tanks, and have skills that reduce damage of their party members.

In Guild Wars 2, Guardians can become defensive healers or tanks or sort of a squishier version of Warriors! (then again, in that game, all classes can heal on their own....)

tsunade666 · 2013-10-12, 01:11

Guardian here are define if they use shield for pure tank with 1 hand sword or 2-handed weapon for massive damage. Look at the OP with some characters that has huge ass sword or massive axe. They are guardian.

DragoonKain3 · 2013-10-12, 01:33

Mage main character in an MMO-inspired anime series? Count me in!

Although how mid lvl mobs are even a threat to max lvl PCs is certainly beyond my experiences in MMOs. Demon/Dark Souls this aint, or at least it isn't supposed to be from what I gather of it.

anime fan99 · 2013-10-12, 04:46

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Originally Posted by RobotCat

Guardian is usually a defensive warrior, ie Paladin in WoW, Crusader in Ragnarok, Templar in Aion etc. They are usually the main tanks, and have skills that reduce damage of their party members.

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Originally Posted by Puu

In Guild Wars 2, Guardians can become defensive healers or tanks or sort of a squishier version of Warriors! (then again, in that game, all classes can heal on their own....)

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Originally Posted by tsunade666

Guardian here are define if they use shield for pure tank with 1 hand sword or 2-handed weapon for massive damage. Look at the OP with some characters that has huge ass sword or massive axe. They are guardian.

Can you use a BioWare game as a example

ookamigirl · 2013-10-12, 07:42

Well, at least the players don't have to fear much in the game.
It would just be too easy and too safe that way.
I'm thinking there must be some catch to it all.
Guess it was about time players started to turn on each other..
Saw pretty much the same thing in SAO.
I like this anime. It's really fun at times.

eduard3 · 2013-10-12, 08:39

I don't think those mid level monsters are actually a threat to them. It's more of the fact that they're experiencing it like it's real life and remember that they're still practicing. Most of their attacks show to almost one hit everything anyway. It's more of their own mental fear that those attacks are going to hurt (Hell, those things do look like they'll hurt if they bite you =_= xD)

aohige · 2013-10-12, 09:03

Ep 2

A bit too wordy episode, although I understand why they did it.
The "censorship" method they chose is kinda diluting some things.

Spoiler for episode 2:

Basically all the dark tones were avoided all together.
It's understandable why it was done, but it does take away some of the edge and desperation from it.

MartianMage · 2013-10-12, 09:21

I just watched ep2 and it was pretty good really.

Not to start a LH vs SAO but so far this feels like a real MMO compared to SAO with actual classes doing their jobs and mounts.

aohige · 2013-10-12, 09:36

The fight was really wordy, but it really comes down to

General Discussion (384 viewing)
OMFG NERF CC!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Vocah · 2013-10-12, 10:04

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Originally Posted by aohige

Ep 2

A bit too wordy episode, although I understand why they did it.
The "censorship" method they chose is kinda diluting some things.

Basically all the dark tones were avoided all together.
It's understandable why it was done, but it does take away some of the edge and desperation from it.

I have to say that the anime sounds way better than the bloody mess that happens in the novel. Novel sounds more like stuck in a fantasy world than stuck in a MMORPG, so the anime making it more gamelike is a big fat plus in my eyes

aohige · 2013-10-12, 10:07

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Originally Posted by Vocah

I have to say that the anime sounds way better than the bloody mess that happens in the novel. Novel sounds more like stuck in a fantasy world than stuck in a MMORPG, so the anime making it more gamelike is a big fat plus in my eyes

It's inconsistency will probably come back to bite the anime in the butt later on though.

Especially the slain bodies disappearing like video games part.

Eijigawa · 2013-10-12, 10:42

Someone translated all the subclasses.

[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/uTIg4N2.jpg

Dairy Farmer? Cleaner? Okay those are some of the weird subclasses but......

WHAT THE **** is a "Rose Garden Princess" suppose to be?!

aohige · 2013-10-12, 10:43

There's a LOT more sub classes than what's shown there.

Like, 50+

Random Wanderer · 2013-10-12, 11:04

It looks like some of those are pure roleplaying classes. They look more like what D&D would call NPC classes. I can't imagine how "accountant" or "dairy farmer" would provide useful skills to a player. They're the sort of classes you take because you want to really roleplay living in a fantasy world.

It's hard to be a hardcore roleplayer in MMOs, from my limited experience, since you tend to get "lol noob" reactions from most people you encounter.

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Spoiler for episode 2:

There's an aspect I hadn't considered, and I suppose I should have. SAO (yes, comparisons again, sorry) had prevention mechanics for that sort of thing, but that's because it was designed as a virtual reality, so they'd actually considered the possibility of someone doing such a thing. This was a keyboard and mouse MMO until now, so there was no reason to create safeguards against that kind of behavior, because it wasn't possible in the first place.

aohige · 2013-10-12, 11:15

Yeah, you're spot-on on the "wasn't intended because it would never come up in a game" issue.

And you're double right about the role play sub classes. There's a lot of "useless" sub classes people can take up just for fun.

The foundation class systems are very EQ, while the battle system are very WoW, and the role playing elements are very UO.

Estavali · 2013-10-12, 11:55

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Originally Posted by Random Wanderer

It looks like some of those are pure roleplaying classes. They look more like what D&D would call NPC classes. I can't imagine how "accountant" or "dairy farmer" would provide useful skills to a player. They're the sort of classes you take because you want to really roleplay living in a fantasy world.

It's hard to be a hardcore roleplayer in MMOs, from my limited experience, since you tend to get "lol noob" reactions from most people you encounter.

True, especially when one might to give up on tried-and-proven cookiecutter builds that don't fit well the RP subject =w=

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There's an aspect I hadn't considered, and I suppose I should have. SAO (yes, comparisons again, sorry) had prevention mechanics for that sort of thing, but that's because it was designed as a virtual reality, so they'd actually considered the possibility of someone doing such a thing. This was a keyboard and mouse MMO until now, so there was no reason to create safeguards against that kind of behavior, because it wasn't possible in the first place.

The reason why this happens in LogHora is really because back in the old days, the GMs and publishers were around to (more or less) police the servers. No longer so in the new world.

For those interested, sub-jobs are classified under three general categories:

1) Craftsman types: Basically sub-jobs that allows one to craft items. Examples are Blacksmith, Carpenter, Scribe, Brewmaster, etc.

2) Role-play types: As the name suggests. Examples are Housemaid, Dancer, Apprentice, etc.

3) Special types: These sub-jobs are available only after fulfilling conditions. One example would be Sword Savant/Kensei.

Unlike main jobs, sub-jobs can be switched whenever the player desires and are usually easier to level too.

Spoiler for On the usefulness of the sub-jobs:

Also, the main job emblems for anyone interested =3: http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.p...st_id=35338053

Spoiler for Emblems:

Quol · 2013-10-12, 12:08

This episode was a really great episode in my opinion, the only problem with it for me would be how they over dramatized PKing.

Also akatsuki has turned into my favorite now lol

Dark Wing · 2013-10-12, 12:20

Yea from what I've seen this is going to be a bit more lighter and softer then it's novel counterpart. Not necessarily a bad thing because after all it's airing in the middle of the day on a kids network.

Anh_Minh · 2013-10-12, 12:20

OK, so I see why the badass adventurers are a better choice to go than the guild leaders. But why not borrow a healer? No room on the gryphons?

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This episode was a really great episode in my opinion, the only problem with it for me would be how they over dramatized PKing.

Yeah, I don't know why they showed any mercy to the PKers. Why not just kill them?

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Originally Posted by Eijigawa

Dairy Farmer? Cleaner? Okay those are some of the weird subclasses but......

WHAT THE **** is a "Rose Garden Princess" suppose to be?!

A Lillian Girl School student, I guess. With a skill to tie other girls' scarves.

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ookamigirl Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011	Well, at least the players don't have to fear much in the game. It would just be too easy and too safe that way. I'm thinking there must be some catch to it all. Guess it was about time players started to turn on each other.. Saw pretty much the same thing in SAO. I like this anime. It's really fun at times. __________________ My Blog --> ookami

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aohige ( ಠ_ಠ) Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Somewhere, between the sacred silence and sleep	Ep 2 A bit too wordy episode, although I understand why they did it. The "censorship" method they chose is kinda diluting some things. Spoiler for episode 2: 1. The player who died in combat with monsters and resurrected at the start of this episode. Originally, he lost all hope and in despair attacked a city guard, getting himself killed. Basically a suicide. 2. Getting killed by other players. Originally, you don't just vanish in flashy sparkling light. When Akatsuki killed the PK, she literally slashed his throat, blood and all. I guess that's just way too visually dark to pass. 3. The city of Susukino is in far worse shape than the depiction shown here. And not just "our guildie got chased by some mean people but she was saved". It's explained that "attacking" is considered dealing significant damage to another by the guards. But physical contacts aren't necessarily considered "attacks" if it doesn't deal significant damage. Especially with "young girls" involved there can be far worse fate than simply killing - insinuating, they were worried if she's been sexually assaulted. Thankfully Marielle confirms that the worst hasn't happened yet. Basically all the dark tones were avoided all together. It's understandable why it was done, but it does take away some of the edge and desperation from it. __________________ Last edited by aohige; 2013-10-12 at 09:14.

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MartianMage Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2006	I just watched ep2 and it was pretty good really. Not to start a LH vs SAO but so far this feels like a real MMO compared to SAO with actual classes doing their jobs and mounts. __________________ Homura: Die monster! You don't belong in this world! Kyubey: It was not by my hand that I am once again given flesh. I was called here by humans who wish to pay me tribute. Homura: Tribute? You steal girls' souls, and make them your slaves! Kyubey: Perhaps the same could be said of all religions. Homura: Your words are as empty as your soul! Lolis ill-needs a savior such as you! Kyubey: What is a loli? A miserable little pile of moe! But enough talk...have at you!

2013-10-12, 08:39	Link #267
eduard3 Member Join Date: Jun 2010	I don't think those mid level monsters are actually a threat to them. It's more of the fact that they're experiencing it like it's real life and remember that they're still practicing. Most of their attacks show to almost one hit everything anyway. It's more of their own mental fear that those attacks are going to hurt (Hell, those things do look like they'll hurt if they bite you =_= xD)

2013-10-12, 09:36	Link #270
aohige ( ಠ_ಠ) Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Somewhere, between the sacred silence and sleep	The fight was really wordy, but it really comes down to General Discussion (384 viewing) OMFG NERF CC!!!!!!!!!!!!! - started by Banditpker __________________

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Eijigawa Half-assed Nightmare~ Join Date: Jun 2007	Someone translated all the subclasses. [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/uTIg4N2.jpg Dairy Farmer? Cleaner? Okay those are some of the weird subclasses but...... WHAT THE **** is a "Rose Garden Princess" suppose to be?! __________________ Last edited by Daniel E.; 2013-10-13 at 13:23.

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aohige ( ಠ_ಠ) Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Somewhere, between the sacred silence and sleep	There's a LOT more sub classes than what's shown there. Like, 50+ __________________

2013-10-12, 11:15	Link #276
aohige ( ಠ_ಠ) Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Somewhere, between the sacred silence and sleep	Yeah, you're spot-on on the "wasn't intended because it would never come up in a game" issue. And you're double right about the role play sub classes. There's a lot of "useless" sub classes people can take up just for fun. The foundation class systems are very EQ, while the battle system are very WoW, and the role playing elements are very UO. __________________ Last edited by aohige; 2013-10-12 at 11:26.

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Quol That Guy Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Road of Life	This episode was a really great episode in my opinion, the only problem with it for me would be how they over dramatized PKing. Also akatsuki has turned into my favorite now lol

2013-10-12, 12:20	Link #279
Dark Wing Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Age: 38	Yea from what I've seen this is going to be a bit more lighter and softer then it's novel counterpart. Not necessarily a bad thing because after all it's airing in the middle of the day on a kids network. __________________