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Besides, think about it. They're the people sent after desperate psychos. They're the ones who've survived it, day after day for who knows how long. Sure, this time the bad guy was never much of a threat to them. They always got the drop on him. But they've got to worry about the times where that won't be the case. So, to reiterate, it's natural to assume they're a lot more familiar with fighting than someone who's never been in a fight. Quote:
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2012-10-16, 17:28 | Link #1003 | |||
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And, of course, this is still dealing with just capabilities. I reiterate that threat is based on both capabilities and intent. Quote:
below 60: the drunkard, not a valid target for enforcement over 120: Masaoka's CC, enforce at will over 160: the rape victim's CC, which appears to mandate sedation according to Masaoka Nothing here is inconsistent with having multiple tiers of latent criminal. Your flaw is assuming that if a person is a valid target for enforcement, then he must be targeted for sedation. If anything, the episode shows the contrary by labeling the different cases as "enforce at will" and "target for enforcement." As we have no suspect below 120 that was a target for enforcement action, there is insufficient evidence to say that just because the rape victim is a must enforce target, then any latent criminal is a must enforcer target.
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2012-10-16, 19:29 | Link #1004 |
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I liked the first episode, straight into the action with a good idea of who the main characters are going to be and an interesting concept of what's happening. Unique equipment too
Hopefully this isn't an anime that has one good first episode but starts going downhill from there.
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2012-10-16, 21:13 | Link #1005 |
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I thought this was a good first episode. It got me interested in how exactly this system works. Perhaps its the detectives job to regulate not only her enforcers but also to interpret the judgments of the gun. We all noticed that the victim was calmed down by Akane enough to lower the gun's assessment from lethal to non-lethal.
Remember that inspector Ginoza simply said he expected a report about her actions. What he didn't do was berate her about going against the judgment her gun made. It may well be expected for inspectors to use their own morality on whether or not to carry out a lethal judgment or to try to make it non-lethal but talking to and calming the target. After all, a computer system is not likely to discriminate between the circumstances that have lead to a target to having a high crime coefficient. It may be the role of the inspect to make a moral judgment though it certainly leaves open the possibility of inspectors viewing high crime coefficient people as subhuman and therefore it becomes unimportant how they are dealt with. Inspector Ginoza seemed to imply that was his view while explain the system to our rookie. I'm interested in seeing what, if any, fall out Akane actions cause. The episode was a successful first episode because just reading the preview on random curiosity left me uncertain if I'd be interested in this show. However, it set up a intriguing blade runner-esque setting and has raise a lot of philosophical questions about the legal system of this world. In short, it has done the job of hooking at least one new viewer. Not to mention the tension and atmosphere I felt the whole episode had. I wasn't bored once. I didn't mind the speeches because I wanted to learn more about this world. And its ending left me wanting to find out what the aftermath of Akane actions would be. It short, perfect first episode that did it job. Last edited by bigdeath; 2012-10-16 at 21:25. |
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2012-10-16, 23:03 | Link #1008 |
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Just saw the first ep. Okay I seriously don’t like the system here. It’s severely flawed, especially in handling a crime victim. While it’s true that directly tranquilize the violent victim is the most efficient method, the way she treated like a criminal just felt wrong. Also, what happen to police officer’s skill in talking some sense and comforting a traumatic victim? Sure there’s a risk, but the risk is worth it considering the rape victim is un-armed before she ran to that pool of gasoline. I mean, come on, she’s already been raped and tortured, why can’t the police show some kindness instead of just tazing her (or killing her at some point). Being tazed hurts, you know. It’s like rubbing salt to the wounds for the rape-victim lady.
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2012-10-17, 00:22 | Link #1009 |
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They can also turn a blind eye and let her get killed. The Enforcers on her team also are looking out for her. Something is going to be said to her for their benefit. It's like a policeman and a police dog. The dog is actually a partner and not a pet.
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2012-10-17, 02:11 | Link #1013 | ||
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2012-10-17, 04:34 | Link #1014 | |||
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Masaoka had a reasonable suspicion that the victim would have a high CC, because he is familiar with how CC can be contagious. Pointing the dominator at her confirmed his suspicion. After he has confirmed that the victim has a great intent to commit some crime, it would be highly irresponsible of him to not take steps to restrain her in some fashion.
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2012-10-17, 05:41 | Link #1016 | |
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The procedure called for Masaoka to scan and then take out the victim if necessary so if it were not in place they could have just taken damage-control measures or whatever cops do to victims rather than hostile acts that guarantee a shooting response is needed. CC may be contagious but it's not a new concept and if present they officers can deal with that issue without a mind-reading gun...
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2012-10-17, 08:44 | Link #1017 |
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Interesting that no one here questions why a psychological trait (the crime coefficient) is regarded as being contagious, which is a physiological characteristic of viruses/bacteria.
Admittedly, we do use the word and words of similar meaning metaphorically ourselves (as in "laughter is contagious", or "Stay away! I'll catch your stupidity!"), but I find it interesting that criminality is now regarded as being 'contagious', apparently in the literal/medical sense.
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2012-10-17, 08:57 | Link #1018 | |
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So the thing we call "evil" can be a sort of contagious illness.
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2012-10-17, 09:00 | Link #1019 | |
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