2007-03-27, 15:31 | Link #81 | |
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@Sabaku Kyu: I agree totally. I said (I think multiple times) that nothing will PROVE his leadership ability except for what he actually does as a leader. All I was saying is that I made INFERENCES about his leadership potential based upon his behavior and characteristics, and those inferences cause me to have doubt in his ability as a leader. It's not like I'm going to sit up here and battle about him being a bad leader if he actually proves to be a GOOD leader. I just have doubts right now is all I'm saying. |
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You said you follow the person that save you goal whatever it is, this should been no exception then. Quote:
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2007-03-27, 15:39 | Link #83 |
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@Rurouni Zeke
I know that why i said ppl .. and that Syndicate didnt just think of u at that moment .. @Rurik ffs .. after this i wont answear anything to u, becouse u simply cant understand anything or u just playing dumb .. even i told u 3 times that Sasuke saved Suigets and that was proven when Suigets said "WELL U DID SAVE MY LIFE".. U still CLAIM that Sasuke didnt save him, im sorry that u know better then Suigetsu .. Then your absurd with killing moms and such rediculous explanation which u can read when i said that Naruto fans would say anything dumb just to question something they dont like.. |
2007-03-27, 15:59 | Link #84 |
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A week without fabulous internet and already we have a thread of sasuke fanboys vs everyone else with sense.
Anyways, Sasuke will be a bad leader because his strength with undoubtedly be greater than his teammates, and based on Sasuke's personality right now, I would imagine him going into a situation that he could handle but that his "team" wouldn't be able to because of the lack of power, so thus putting his team in extreme danger. So yeah, Sasuke right now would be a horrible leader. I don't even understand why he would want a team, being the lone avenger that he claims to be, it takes away from his character. |
2007-03-27, 16:12 | Link #85 |
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@ rurik how is taking a scroll from a team go to as in bad choicce when its the whole meaning
@ sabaku kyu if leaving konoha makes you selfish then leaving the army because you wanna train for your own objective would be selfish too. If that indeed was selfish we can call everything selfish @rurouni sorry but i had that feeling since asianknight started in that way. But for the rest of it pretty much the same as how spir0 sees it |
2007-03-27, 16:15 | Link #86 | ||
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And Funny the translation doesn’t have “LIFE” in it. In any case, Sasuke saving Suigetsu doesn’t mean Suigetsu will follow him because he feels inspired by Sasuke leadership, but in this case, he will follow him or either out of debt or because he wants to accomplish something, which arent a relationship based on Leadership. And For your Info, I like Sasuke as much as I like Naruto, so your point of "Naruto Fan" just falls short. But I don’t think I could say the same for you and your likes, using your own word :A Sasuke Fan will use something not said in the Manga to try to defend their beloved character. Quote:
when it was a Decision taken without thinking the consequence of it? the point of The Test was not only to get a scroll , its was to get an specific scroll and to reach the designated area in a limited amount of time, not to mention the whole team was exhausted and Sasuke still had problems with the newly Acquired CS and that if Im not mistaken the one Kabuto had wasnt the scroll thy were looking for.
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2007-03-27, 17:35 | Link #87 |
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@ SpiRo, sorry I misunderstood you there. I get what you're saying now.
@ Syndicate, no problem; we all make mistakes. Just make sure to respond to people on a case-by-case basis. The fact that Asianknight said some things you don't like doesn't mean other people will too |
2007-03-27, 19:22 | Link #88 | ||
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seriously it was allright to take from those bunshin freaks but from kabuto it was wrong it doenst hold any basis whatsoever man The whole reason why i dont understand you saying it was a so-called-bad-descision THus he nust be bad leader argument is cuz no one knew which scroll they had and kabuto i think showed the one they needed. Job ninjas is to suprise them. sasuke at least this by wanting to fight kabuto for the scroll he said so himself that he thought it was nice of him to help them but he needed a scroll himself tahst nothing bad. Its not about buddy buddy its about getting results they were running out of time. the fact they were exhausted also means others are and that need to act fast going resting not doing the job was stupid. Even kabuto thought that sasuke taking his scroll was normal sinc ethat was the freaking TEST to become chuunin. They said it themself this test is to see if your able to do what it takes to become a chuunin fact that they were exhausted and that those others naruto sakura cant carry on is a weakness of them sasuke at least wanted to get the job done aka why he is a team player. about the decision thingy WHY in gods earth do you think he thought we needed a scroll and take that of kabuto. The whole reason why he wante dto to that and since there were so few left and people all should have one not to mention hey might not find new opponents there one in reach kabuto should i take it or not and fail if we dont find any opponents so no it wasnt a bad decision. sasuke was the only one in that team that actually had brains sakura was to occupied with sasuke and naruto is too dumb. Quote:
since when Teams composed of ninja's are christians? There cold blooded murders IMO thats how i view them spy's (people who lie and do everything the bible contradicts yet you come with arguments like the bible. I think you need to understand you view it from a differnet perspective then most of do. I am a christian but im not as stupid to qoute a bible on ninja's who basically disregard anything that written in the holy book every damn last person in this anime is required to sneak in enemy lines doe sthe bible preach that. they're supposed to take out people does the bible say your allowed to hit people i can go on and on but i think 99% of the people here understand that this is an unvalid arguments. The reason why I say you should this whole thread again and seriously it has nothing to do with taking it out on you is because i do that alot to see what is initially said. We came to the conclusion that leader come in all kinds of ways for differnet things in this context team leaders is about their abilities to do a job you havent grasped that. If it was an anime about morality then your argument would hold ground. and yes a child abuser can be a good leader when you look at his capabilities these are 2 differnet things. Team leaders is about leading teams to get something done not about their personal issues beside the team jobs. For example if you for example arein a team and your team leader is good WOW i have a good team leader. This is a fact you concluded then suddenly you read in the freaking news yeah he fucked his own kid doe sthis make him suddenly a bad team leader what nonsense is that? hit ler was also a good leader. if you looked his abilities to lead the germans DO I THINK HWTA HE DID WAS GOOD HELL NO. but he wouldnt be good if he could conquer 99% of europe hold it against UK USA and russians for over 5 years. The germans viewed him as a hero. your talking about what you see as good and what to see in his character as good which we dont since we talking about what can sasuke can achieve with his team or how they will operate. your talking about IMO i dont liek sasuke because he this that so he must also be bad leader which is like freaking pointless and has no arguments cuz it based on your opinion concluding he must be bad or something. @rurouni <3 Last edited by Syndicate; 2007-03-27 at 19:38. |
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2007-03-27, 20:30 | Link #89 | |||
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A) the idea (because it wasn't a decision itself) of Trying to fight Kabuto, someone at the level of Kakashi, without weighting the Fact that he could had called attention of other Shinobis looking for scroll and on top of that doing it with a team of Exhausted and battered Shinobies specially himself who had serious problem with the CS, was a bad Idea, reason why they didn't go trough it to begin with. if you think this was a good idea, then Naruto Wanting to fight Oro head on for the scroll was also a good idea. B) The reason why they Fought against those "bushin freaks" as you called them was because those people ambushed team 7 and not the other way around. Team 7 went close to the perimeter where the facility was because from there they could get a scroll without a direct fight, because it happens that there get a scroll easy by doing an ambush to other teams, a decision that was a wise one given the current team situation, no mayor fighting was suppose to happen. but it happened as noted by kabuto it could, so Even if that choice would had failed, it was well tough, opposite from just wanting to pick a fight to get the scroll. Quote:
they were just decision that proved Sasuke's Intelligence (the password) or Sasuke's state of Mind (giving the scroll To Oro and Sasuke wanting to fight Kabuto for the scroll.) Quote:
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2007-04-05, 16:56 | Link #91 |
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well this was thread for so long time ago but i just wanna jubilate that i was right about Sasuke .. he dont lead throughout fear .. muahaha
So everyone who said he lead throughout fear r wrong .. now this thread can die ^^ |
2007-04-07, 05:16 | Link #95 | |
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And why would he want to rid himslef from power ? Doubt this too .. but who knows . |
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2007-04-07, 13:29 | Link #97 |
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Imagine Juugo says that if a boy opens a door "i will kill him". However when sasuke does, Juugo doesnt attack cause he thought of him as a girl.
Doesnt this look stupid that sasuke wants an mentaly distrub person to join him. Why would he want that? Could it be that his team has counter abilities for the akutsuki member. |
2007-04-07, 14:55 | Link #98 |
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I certainly wouldn't put it past Kishimoto, given his abominable track record with female characters not named "Sakura" of late (either they get killed ala Yugito, or all but kicked out of the story entirely ala Hinata...)
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2007-04-07, 15:06 | Link #100 | |
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Come on, don't you feel sorry for her ? To stay on topic, I think all the members of Team Sasuke will die. Sasuke won't eternally hang out with them and they have nowhere to settle in, so Kishi will take the easy route. They may actually be better (I don't mean stronger) than Sasuke. After all, Karin and Suigetsu were mocking Juugo for coming by himself to Oro (Suigetsu even said he was "retarded"). Obviously, they don't know Sasuke was the one who is "retarded". (Sasuke looked sad at that time, so he may have regrets about his actions though. Last edited by Rahan; 2007-04-07 at 15:18. |
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