2016-07-07, 07:10 | Link #421 |
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I think it's showing that In UK people identify with their nationality over European status & many of them don't see the European status as part of their identity at much higher rate than many other EU nations.
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2016-07-07, 11:33 | Link #422 |
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Basically that the majority of people in the UK think of themselves as British, English, Scottish, Welsh, or Irish (northern of course) and not as Europeans. Some think of themselves as both, but few think of themselves as Europeans rather than British.
If there is any nationality in the world that has about as much pride as the Americans, it would be the British. They did have the largest Empire on the planet, and have not been successfully invaded since 1066.
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2016-07-11, 07:47 | Link #423 |
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Well, it came to be. Theresa May will be the next Prime Minister of the United ha Kingdom.
I sort of seen it coming, since it was her and Johnson who had their designs on the job for decades now. I even recall way back when I was in high school and people were already talking like her being PM was just a shoe drop away. Guess the other shoe did drop and now I'm stuck in a V for Vendetta prequel I never wanted to be part of. I'll miss having human rights, that's for sure.
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2016-07-11, 10:15 | Link #425 |
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Of course she wouldn't trigger article 50 anytime soon, she sided with Cameron (weakly, but ultimately she was with remain). Many will forget that, because they just want *someone* to take charge, and also because they understand how destructive an outright full withdrawal from the EU will cause, most of it on the UK.
Her end goal is trying to draw it out as much as possible, making the leave voters see how bad things had gotten and would possibly get once we are out of the EU, then settle for a Norway style deal. Then she can get to work on trying to get the UK to withdraw from the European Convention on Human Rights and install further surveillance on the populace. It's terrible for the UK, but slightly more than half the country voted to worsen our condition willingly. There's more suffering in the near and far future, sadly. I do like how the Leave leaders with any sense had, essentially, washed their hands out of trying to take charge of this ship they made. I'll give this to May at least, she is probably the only person capable (and willing) to drive things along, but I think she had always been prepared to be hated once she got to be PM.
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2016-07-13, 06:49 | Link #426 |
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Brexit will happen but in 2022.
Can someone explain to me what implications will this have on both UK and EU economies if it takes this long? |
2016-07-13, 06:57 | Link #427 | |
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2016-07-13, 07:31 | Link #429 |
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It will. Both EU leadership ( especially Tusk, Junker and Angela ) and new British prime minister confirmed it.
Problem is that EU has no regulation for a member that is leaving the union. This is all new ground so they are taking their time. Why is it lasting this long - 2 years of negotiations with the EU and 4 more years until all 27 members states governments pass the bill to allow British to exit. I mean, how can it not happened when European Parliament started holding discussions without British representatives? |
2016-07-13, 16:02 | Link #431 | |
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And the EU has regulations for members leaving. It's called the Article 50. What it doesn't have is provisions for kicking members out. Which is why part of me will believe the UK will trigger the Article 50 when they actually do so, not before. |
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2016-07-13, 23:35 | Link #435 | |
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2 years are just the timelimit for the exiting member to work out deals, if it wants to, with the EU. If it doesn't, they can exit straight away. Boris as foreign minister. Cannot wait to see him parachuting into russia, china, aso to promote london... i mean england, but in reality it is just london. |
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2016-07-14, 01:00 | Link #436 | |
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2016-07-15, 07:33 | Link #440 |
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Let me answer that for you:
1 - UK leaves the EU - they voted for that and it's bound to happen. Anything less will cause public outrage. 2 - UK doesn't leave the EU - not gonna happen, even the EU is pushing them now for separation. 3 - "leaves" the EU in name only - most possible scenarion. Not part of the EU but have some agreements with them ( just like Swiss, Norway, Turkey and even Russia ). |
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