Umineko no Naku Koro ni - Episode 16 Discussion / Poll

[risingstar3110]

Hmm... you guys remind me of how the Moe Beato start to become quite similar to the one Rosa met when she was small....

[maximilianjenus]

oh, but they got a ncie kinzo sidedish seasoned with absynthe.

[Echoman]

Damn, they totally butchered Kyrie/Rudolf vs Leviathan/Belphegor A shame, I was looking forward to that scene, too. First off, Kyrie's "You don't have nearly enough love or envy. Better luck next time, girl." was supposed to be delivered AFTER she shot Levi, not before, wasn't it? Unless I'm just remembering things wrong... And the whole duel trick where Rudolf gets Belph to stand in front of Eva was taken out completely... Totally ruined both of them imo. Though I guess they had a lot else to get into the episode, so maybe they didn't have time or something.

[Tomoya-kun]

Originally Posted by Echoman

First off, Kyrie's "You don't have nearly enough love or envy. Better luck next time, girl." was supposed to be delivered AFTER she shot Levi, not before, wasn't it?

No, she says it right before shooting her in the VN as well.

[Colorz]

Of course she would say it before.That seems more epic!

[Echoman]

Ah, I guess I remembered it wrong, then.

[KanonTheFurniture]

Probably stupid to bump this thread now, but I decided to watch episode 16 again and I noticed something I thought was a really nice time saving technique on DEEN's part. Pretty sure I can say this fully now since EP3 is over, and we know that Kyrie obviously suspected Hideyoshi and Eva when she suggested they go to the kitchen. They cut out a lot of the talk before that suggestion from the VN, that suspiciously hinted that Kyrie obviously had a hunch about something, but if you take a look at when Eva starts getting her headache again and Hideyoshi takes her off to their room and leaves, Kyrie stops and gives them a look as they walk away...I don't know, I thought this was really nice. It shows that she's not just arbitrarily deciding to go get food like I thought when I first saw the episode (since they cut out all that talk leading up to it), but watching it again and noticing that it felt really cool.

If only DEEN could make use of those little time saving techniques more often, it could help to incorporate some of the important emotions while at the same time not having to show a whole scene that could be considered more or less 'expendable' due to time constraints. Once you go back and know that Kyrie had suspected Hideyoshi with the whole cigarette butt thing, you can see that look as more than just a random closeup.

I just thought I'd mention it, since DEEN praise is often few and far between, and I think it's good to praise them for doing something good just as much as bashing them for screwing stuff up. :P

[Agent of Death]

Beatrice seems to change from evil to innocent looking witch.

[Crontica]

Originally Posted by Agent of Death

Beatrice seems to change from evil to innocent looking witch.

*Couggghh*

[OkamiNoKaze]

Great episode, Battler's dad and step mother are pretty cool, now we know where he gets it from, even if she's not his real mother, it seems to have rubbed off. How old was Battler when his dad married her?

[AuraTwilight]

12; it's the factor that caused him to run off six years ago.