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Spectacular_Insanity · 2008-01-13, 15:08

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Originally Posted by tbl

I'm not so surprised about Kenpachi, Ichigo was able to fight with him equally before he reached Bankai.

If that's true, what does that say about Tousen and Komamura? He pwned both of them... AT THE SAME TIME.

Yosei · 2008-01-13, 19:26

Unohana is monstrous. Gin is also surpsingly good, and I think Toshiro's a bit over-ranked.

I am disappointed with Ukitake. Even counted as an all-rounder, I would've thought he was at least equal to Kyoraku.

I'm surprised Aizen isn't maxed out. And I'm GLAD Yamamoto isn't maxed out.

WONDERMIKE · 2008-01-13, 22:41

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Originally Posted by tbl

I'm not so surprised about Kenpachi, Ichigo was able to fight with him equally before he reached Bankai.

Ichigo would have died without his hollow mask that appeared under his kimono and damped Zarakis impact(scene after the fight with Yoruichi), while Zaraki just passed out.. so after all Zaraki was stronger at that moment, even when it resulted in a draw

tbl · 2008-01-14, 08:59

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Originally Posted by WONDERMIKE

Ichigo would have died without his hollow mask that appeared under his kimono and damped Zarakis impact(scene after the fight with Yoruichi), while Zaraki just passed out.. so after all Zaraki was stronger at that moment, even when it resulted in a draw

Maybe, but it wouldn't be by much. Also, Ichigo sustained really heavy damage during the first half of the fight before he was able to fight Kenpachi equally.

Anima · 2008-01-14, 10:03

Unohana is scary! I'd love to see her fighting in HM arc. I am sure she will actually.

Spectacular_Insanity · 2008-01-14, 12:05

I still find it hilarious that while the members of squad 11 (combat squad) look down on squad 4 (healer squad), they are deathly afraid of Captaic Unohana.

Hisoka?? · 2008-01-16, 00:34

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Originally Posted by WONDERMIKE

Ichigo would have died without his hollow mask that appeared under his kimono and damped Zarakis impact(scene after the fight with Yoruichi), while Zaraki just passed out.. so after all Zaraki was stronger at that moment, even when it resulted in a draw

actually kenpachi won that match, even if they labeled it as a draw.

the mask aside, the fact that ichigo collasped and passed out first and kenpachi was still moving and could have just stabbed ichogo in the heart sort of seals that fact.

Pyrokinetic · 2008-01-16, 17:40

Its the same scenario with ichigo vs byakuya, i would say byakuya won since he was the last person standing and he was still able to do shunpo. well any of them could have won considering how many openings they had, they both weren't fighting their best and lot of chances they had they could killed each other but i still think byakuya closed the curtain. =]

Anima · 2008-01-17, 04:25

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Originally Posted by Pyrokinetic

Its the same scenario with ichigo vs byakuya, i would say byakuya won since he was the last person standing and he was still able to do shunpo. well any of them could have won considering how many openings they had, they both weren't fighting their best and lot of chances they had they could killed each other but i still think byakuya closed the curtain. =]

I thought Ichigo was at his limit in that fight. He went all out IMO.

Pyrokinetic · 2008-01-17, 07:17

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Originally Posted by FaceSmasher

I thought Ichigo was at his limit in that fight. He went all out IMO.

Ichigo could have won when he had that sword on byakuya's neck at the start and he could have also won if he let the hollow have fun for a little longer :P however byakuya could have won if he used all the blades at once for one immensely powerful strike at the second stage of his bankai (senkei). he could have also won if he aimed his kido spell (white lightning) or something when he pierced ichigo's foot at his heart or anywhere else vital. well i'm sure there more chances like that but to me ichigo is a loser, even ikkaku could have beat him when they fought in soul society because he knew bankai at that time (i reckon).

Ziv · 2008-01-17, 08:12

Ok people I think you're misunderstanding these ratings. All they do is compare each characters' strengths relative to their weaknesses. i.e. it shows that Zaraki is great at melee combat, but terrible at Kidou. It DOESN'T say that Zaraki is just as good at melee combat as Komamura. Each rating is relative to the person in question.

That said, here's a translation of the diagram for those who are confused:

chadrew · 2008-01-17, 10:41

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Originally Posted by Ziv

Ok people I think you're misunderstanding these ratings. All they do is compare each characters' strengths relative to their weaknesses. i.e. it shows that Zaraki is great at melee combat, but terrible at Kidou. It DOESN'T say that Zaraki is just as good at melee combat as Yamamoto. Each rating is relative to the person in question.

It would make sense if it's relative. Otherwise I call Hitsugaya overrated

Did he ever use demon magic...

Ziv · 2008-01-18, 01:40

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Originally Posted by chadrew

It would make sense if it's relative. Otherwise I call Hitsugaya overrated

Did he ever use demon magic...

I'm pretty sure the thing at the bottom is Reitsu control, not necessarily just Kidou. He probably uses it for his Shikai and Bankai.

-Shana- · 2008-02-16, 23:55

Regardless if this is real or not, it'd be incorrect to assume that this means higher number>lower number.

kagato3 · 2008-02-17, 01:26

Oh I found a web page that did translation summuries of the text on the pages here: http://kay-willow.livejournal.com/tag/bleach

note these are NOT scanlations

Kyttie · 2008-02-20, 15:58

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Originally Posted by Spectacular_Insanity

If that's true, what does that say about Tousen and Komamura? He pwned both of them... AT THE SAME TIME.

this is something I don't get...

Kenpachi owned those 2, yet it's pretty obvious at this point, that Tousen would own Gimjaw...

and Grimjaw was kickin the crap out of ichigo+Bankai

whereas Ichigo+BanKai should OWN Kenpachi if we use their last fight as a reference...

I mean I know GrimJaw couldn't fight back because of Aizen and all, but the way he did it, GrimJaw looked helpless against it, and Tousen cut his arm off with such ease...

so if Tousen is stronger then GrimJaw, and GrimJaw is stronger then Ichigo+Bankai, and Ichigo+BanKai is stronger then Kenpachi... how the hell did Kenpachi have a chance in hell against Tousen?

Just curious :\

mugenTaichou · 2008-02-20, 17:34

Can someone explain me, how kenpachi has 0 reiatsu, when he has to wear freakin' eyepatch to
pressure it... I think someone mistakenly put reiatsu beside kidou <<

EXEs · 2008-02-20, 17:42

I think it means their ability to use kidou, not the amount they have. Explains it quite well.

kagato3 · 2008-02-21, 06:06

It's reiatsu control, kidou being only a part of that.

kayote · 2008-02-21, 06:44

in the sum totals i can not belive that Byakuya is stronger than Ukitake.

that baffels me. apart from the illness hindering Ukitake he is a senoir captain and he should be more powerful than Byakuya

2008-01-14, 12:05	Link #66
Spectacular_Insanity Ha ha ha ha ha... Graphic Designer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Right behind you. Age: 35	I still find it hilarious that while the members of squad 11 (combat squad) look down on squad 4 (healer squad), they are deathly afraid of Captaic Unohana. __________________

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Pyrokinetic Dai-Enkei Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: East London Age: 35	Its the same scenario with ichigo vs byakuya, i would say byakuya won since he was the last person standing and he was still able to do shunpo. well any of them could have won considering how many openings they had, they both weren't fighting their best and lot of chances they had they could killed each other but i still think byakuya closed the curtain. =] __________________ You can try anything you want, but when i say"I will kill you" your death is assured.

2008-01-17, 08:12	Link #71
Ziv Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: ALASKA!!! W00t! I'm BACK FINALLY!!!! Age: 35	Ok people I think you're misunderstanding these ratings. All they do is compare each characters' strengths relative to their weaknesses. i.e. it shows that Zaraki is great at melee combat, but terrible at Kidou. It DOESN'T say that Zaraki is just as good at melee combat as Komamura. Each rating is relative to the person in question. That said, here's a translation of the diagram for those who are confused: Last edited by Ziv; 2008-01-18 at 01:39.

2008-02-17, 01:26	Link #75
kagato3 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006	Oh I found a web page that did translation summuries of the text on the pages here: http://kay-willow.livejournal.com/tag/bleach note these are NOT scanlations __________________ Higurashi: Its a bit like watching a trainwreck, except you keep getting to see different trains wrecking with roughly the same passengers, into a variety of different objects. Also, the trains are driven by monkeys. On LSD.

2008-02-20, 17:34	Link #77
mugenTaichou Sanity, you say? Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Countmania	Can someone explain me, how kenpachi has 0 reiatsu, when he has to wear freakin' eyepatch to pressure it... I think someone mistakenly put reiatsu beside kidou << __________________

2008-01-13, 19:26	Link #62
Yosei Death by writing Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Hong Kong/Brisbane	Unohana is monstrous. Gin is also surpsingly good, and I think Toshiro's a bit over-ranked. I am disappointed with Ukitake. Even counted as an all-rounder, I would've thought he was at least equal to Kyoraku. I'm surprised Aizen isn't maxed out. And I'm GLAD Yamamoto isn't maxed out.

2008-01-14, 10:03	Link #65
Anima Oh! You mean we don't? Join Date: Sep 2007	Unohana is scary! I'd love to see her fighting in HM arc. I am sure she will actually.

2008-02-16, 23:55	Link #74
-Shana- Member Join Date: Apr 2007	Regardless if this is real or not, it'd be incorrect to assume that this means higher number>lower number.

2008-02-20, 17:42	Link #78
EXEs Hallelujah... Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Hong Kong Age: 32	I think it means their ability to use kidou, not the amount they have. Explains it quite well.

2008-02-21, 06:06	Link #79
kagato3 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2006	It's reiatsu control, kidou being only a part of that. __________________ Higurashi: Its a bit like watching a trainwreck, except you keep getting to see different trains wrecking with roughly the same passengers, into a variety of different objects. Also, the trains are driven by monkeys. On LSD.

2008-02-21, 06:44	Link #80
kayote Looking for ONE PIECE Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Sleeping Forest	in the sum totals i can not belive that Byakuya is stronger than Ukitake. that baffels me. apart from the illness hindering Ukitake he is a senoir captain and he should be more powerful than Byakuya __________________