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2009-09-30, 08:02 | Link #43 | |
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2009-09-30, 08:05 | Link #46 | ||
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That's not how it works with this "science"...but perhaps. Quote:
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2009-09-30, 08:21 | Link #47 | |
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On the other hand, I am still interested in how you managed to come up with that '50/50' proposition. How did you reason your way to such a conclusion? What evidence do you have to make it a fact? |
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You cannot prove or disprove beliefs. What you can only do is believe and have faith---most do this, if instinctively, "automatically". Quote:
Assuredly(joking aside), its simple connections of definition. The fact of indefiniteness creates the fact of "not knowing" thus, it creates a simple possibility of 50/50---"now knowing" translates to that, does it not? Its either there is afterlife or there isn't. |
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2009-09-30, 09:42 | Link #51 | ||
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Let's play trivia. Guess the person who came up with this quotation. Quote:
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2009-09-30, 10:08 | Link #52 | ||
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2009-09-30, 10:34 | Link #53 | ||
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And you dared to claim that those of your fellow Muslims who are less "disciplined" about their faith should have their titles revoked. Hypocrite much? Quote:
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Humans, like "scientists", will inevitably have that constant period of "questioning"---for that is what humans are, curious beings. To be a scientist, doesn't mean requiring the removing of the religion. That is why there are several religious scientists. My example: I have my religion but I still believe that progress in this "reality" is important. I questioned my faith several times but never thought of removing it. This is because of the"practical" worldly benefits my religion gives me and the fact that it cannot be disproved(or proved of course). Quote:
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2009-09-30, 11:28 | Link #55 | |
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and while permanent in relation to the waves as you mentioned, the religion/philosophy would say that the ocean itself is part of the same conditioned genesis |
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2009-09-30, 11:40 | Link #56 |
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Um... full context. Einstein was referring to the then new school of quantum mechanics. He later regretted that position and affirmed that quantum mechanics does indeed work and joined the attempt to integrate it with cosmological theories of relativity (which also "works").
Right now we have several theories in physics which work for the domains they were developed to describe. Integrating them ("The Theory of Everything") has proved to an interesting challenge though there are several likely candidates being hammered on).
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2009-09-30, 11:43 | Link #58 |
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Can I at least call it 0? I just used your example of 50/50 because it shows balance. If there is no "knowing", we'll call it 0. If its 0, then its a point of balance between fact and false. A nothing. So on end, the afterlife may not or may exist.
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2009-09-30, 11:49 | Link #59 |
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Well, the main point is you're taking shots in the dark. It is one possibility out of a perhaps infinite array of other possibilities. This is my personal reason for not having a belief regarding an afterlife; though I can't rule it out, I can't really draw any logical conclusions whatsoever. There's no balance to be found in that reality - only mystery. Being a man of reason (or I'd like to think myself to be one, anyways), I can't render any judgments and this also leads to me questioning individuals like you who are so eager to.
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2009-09-30, 11:53 | Link #60 |
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I also believe that Science is also a supernatural thing, the "magic" of Humanity. Of course, I do this because I'm somehow trying to think outside of the boundaries of "human", as every theory and philosophy is made with using human measures, to prove my theory of "Universal Common Sense". Of course, this is impossible.
I also think, that there are no afterlife, beforelife or life altogether. Just life, what is eternal. And not. |
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