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I thought she might have disappeared since the (temporary) erasure of the Financial district and the midas money from existence might have changed a lot of things. However, since everyone else, including people that previously died/disappeared are fine, I guess she's alright as well. I suppose I'm just trying to find cracks in that overly happy ending which I'm having a hard time disgesting. Quote:
As for her likeness to Msyu, I don't really say it, but it doesn't really matter anyway. An asset doesn't always (and in most cases, don't, otherwise it'd be disturbing considering the appearances of most assets) look like the person you hold most dear. Need I remind you Msyu was the splitting image of the asset of Kimimaro's father? How do you explain that if Msyu is supposed to look like Hanabi? The anime very much hinted at Msyu being Kimimaro's daughter, and if the official website even confirms it, I see no reason to doubt it.
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2011-06-24, 11:45 | Link #1023 |
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Arrghhhhhhhhhh..... what the hell just happened????
Oh well, despite all the freaking confusion yada yada, the ending satisfies me for the LAST LINE ALONE. That was probably the best way to end this confusing series that was all over the place. They needed at least twice as many episodes as they got to bring this one home properly imho. But well, all's done and I can't say I didn't enjoy it. I will give it 7 out of 10 for being innovative despite all the risks associated and for having some really awesome concepts. It's a surprise that this even got made so I guess I can't be complaining too much about the lack of episodes yada yada. |
2011-06-24, 11:47 | Link #1024 | ||
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That's right anime really hinted at Msyu being Kimimaro's daughter in the previous episodes where Kimimaro saw some flashback that he is being in the hospital and holding the baby's hand with his finger. But at this point what intrigues most is that if she is Kimimaro's daughter why did she gave him kiss on the lips. That's what bothers me bost to tell you truth. And I also question that why Kimimaro's and his fathers assets looks so much a like? What his father tried to protect most? Which person he cared most in this world? If he cared Kimimaro then why his assets outer appearance doesn't spitting the image of Kimimaro? Well he looks like a bit girl so I don't know what to say lol. Lastly I just stated what I concluded from watching these moments at the end of episode. So if offical website even confirms it, then yeah there is no doubt she is his daughter but this situation leaves more questions on my mind. Last edited by Qpax; 2011-06-24 at 12:06. |
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2011-06-24, 11:56 | Link #1025 |
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Masakaki said it was the future kimi preserved. It could very well be that the whole epilogue sequence was a dream. Notice that before the epilogue Kimi is on his bed laying down when he is visited by the gawd of the FD. The whole wandering through future Japan is just an extension to the dream he is having. This explains why he doesn't go noticed by anyone. It also explains how the currency has swapped over to USD overnight (which is seemingly impossible). It actually all makes sense if you interpret the crappy epilogue as a dream of future things to come. Terrible epilogue is still terrible though.
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2011-06-24, 11:59 | Link #1026 | |
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I think the blog entry sums up the series, particularly its ending, nicely. |
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2011-06-24, 12:18 | Link #1027 |
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I think we are being a bit hard on the show. I think most of us would be hard pressed to resist watching the final episode after seeing a great episode #10. Must of re-watched that one 4 times and was patiently waiting for the 11th.
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2011-06-24, 12:51 | Link #1028 | ||
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2011-06-24, 12:59 | Link #1030 |
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No one has anything to say about "creative destruction"?
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2011-06-24, 13:32 | Link #1031 |
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It's weird...I still feel like I'm one of the only ones that saw this kind of ending coming a mile away. In any case I definitely don't feel the kind of disappointment a lot of others seem to feel because I didn't really have any expectations at all and haven't since about the time the whole financial collapse plotline just sort of...happened out of the blue.
The show had been hovering between a 2/10 and 3/10 on my ol' anime list for the past 5 episodes I would say and never managed to exceed 6/10 at even the series highest point (which I will argue were the individual story lines that showed how losing duels affected people around Yoga) so this episode is just what I'd call keeping with an already set standard. It was really a wholly appropriate way to end the show if you ask me. |
2011-06-24, 15:16 | Link #1033 |
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I enjoyed the fight and it looks like good ending when he bought the future back but mashu was gone and so as the financial district or so it seems but it isn't and if Q is Takako. The little sister of Mikuni then Mashu should be Hanabi but the pierot of financial district said she isn't Mashu.
It's good ending if its less confusing. Either way I enjoyed the show.
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2011-06-24, 17:26 | Link #1034 |
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Can someone confirm who's the family that came out of the house at the end? The nameplate of the house is not subbed so I am not sure. My guess is it's the prof's family since that would be the only thing that makes sense of the whole scene.
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2011-06-24, 17:51 | Link #1035 | |
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The professor's name was Ehara (江原) though, IIRC... (And that was Hanabi's house before Kimimaro 'reclaimed' this particular 'future')
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2011-06-24, 18:13 | Link #1036 |
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This confirms my theory that what Kimi saw at the end was a dream of the future to come. Either that or Kimi is physically transported to future Japan. Where else did that kid come from? The toddler must of been 5 years old, this shows that considerable time has passed by since 'C' passed through Japan. Hanabi probably moved out after college and is living independently now (or maybe still in the same room living as a depressed NEET lol).
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2011-06-24, 18:25 | Link #1037 |
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Facinating last episode. For the first time the anime showed that there is at least one person in their staff with some notion of economic theory.
For those without a background in economics, a global idea of what happened. As not everything is made clear in the last 2 episodes: Yen loses all value due to near instant hyper-inflation. Yen convertability is suspended on short notice so people and companies can't resort to capital flight. As the currency has lost all value, all debt and savings are wiped out. Assuming those savings are not restored when dollar is implemented as new currency. The result is that the Japanse government gets rid of the whole national debt (most of which is held by domestic investors) at the expense of the Japanese household and corporate savings. Japanese banking sector is now cleaned of all bad debt as their balances are zero. Reboot of the banking sector ends the credit crunch. Pegging the new coin to the dollar (actually it is the dollar) can and probably will off-set deflationay expectations. (These are the two main causes for the debt deflation spiral that resulted in Japans sluggish economic performance for the last two decades). Essentially there has been an enormous intergenerational transfer. The elderly lose their pensions and the households all their financial assets(which hurts the rich and rewards those in debt). The most valuable assets people have left are their remaining productive years and their children. Hence the all the children shown at the end as birthrates explode (no pension savings means people have to rely on their kids and grandkids again to help them in old age). It's an interesting (albeit very cruel and risky) theoretical scenario. It's hard to pull off in the real world given the panic it would cause on the worlds financial markets. Although this scenario has happened, to some extent, in post-WWII Europe where some countries implemented new currencies to undo unfair profiteering from the war and collaboration. |
2011-06-24, 20:09 | Link #1039 |
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This show had so much untapped potential due to the restrictive 11 episode format. Just another 2 episodes would probably be enough to give us a little more closure than what we got but sadly NoitaminA is like this and clearly someone had to beg a lot to even get this green-lit (how else would you explain what appears to be an embracingly low budget).
Anyway I'm wondering: are there any related works to [C] planned? Manga? Novels? Short Stories? Anything?
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2011-06-24, 20:13 | Link #1040 | |||
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Having thought about the ending a bit more, I wonder if the creators were trying to raise questions along the lines of Critical Theory. We all take the current economic system for granted, but it hasn't also had the form it has today. Can we truly say that this is the best system? The only system that works - or at least, that will work once we get it right? Can we truly get it right, or will the someone always screw it up by using the system in the wrong way?
Critical theorists would emphatically say "NO", and seek to overturn the entire system and establish a new one. In terms of this, 「C」's ending seems to suggest that 'actually, the current system can never be completely overturned, though it can be changed'. ===== Quote:
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Not that I know of. Though I haven't exactly checked all that carefully...
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