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That's pretty awesome actually. Spoiler:
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It's almost like they gave him limitless power and then ended up downplaying his power on every occasion, except in those mid-point Eureka eps, even limiting his screentime instead of actually giving him more of a story and deeper motivation since he had too much power to have more screentime, so he's been left in the middle as neither particularly scary with his huge powers nor particularly involving with any relatability/intriguing plans/whatever. He feels like a "mid-boss" which would be okay I guess if there was going to be a second season with a better villain. With a really compelling villain there'd be a lot less complaining I feel. Quote:
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I hope since he's actually here that Renton actually gets to do stuff in these next two eps. Last edited by CrowKenobi; 2012-09-27 at 20:11. Reason: Spoiler tags needs proper labels. |
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2012-09-27, 19:23 | Link #2426 | |
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Yeah, man with him showing up actually 2 eps before the end and not in the last ep or the cliffhanger of the ep before last hopefully that won't be the case still and he'll actually get some time to talk (and talk to his son). Spoiler:
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2012-09-27, 21:05 | Link #2428 | |
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Also, I agree that AO needs a second season. I feel your pain, when another show and not even a good one gets another season. Hopefully, we will get one for AO, because no way Bones will end all this in only three episodes without it ending unsatisfyingly. Ao and co. only just begun their real journey in episode 19. Judging from the preview, Naru seems to be no longer under the influence of the Scub Corals. Elena is back, but there is still Maggie. Eureka is still involuntarily jumping through timelines. Even though a few plots have closed there are still more still open.
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2012-09-27, 22:24 | Link #2429 | |
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What I haven't noticed is that the moon in 12021 is blank. Which means... the desolated wasteland is the new world's future. You know, this behavior of Scub Coral doesn't make any sense. Why would it try to take over the world so half-assedly? After all that happened? Why would it infect people and turn them into green goo? Something else I forgot to mention: the way they disposed of the Secret's head was both hilarious and very characteristic of this show. Renton being voiced by Keiji Fujiwara is the worst decision ever. They tried to be clever, but really just ended up ruining everything. It's wrong on so many levels, they could've casted ANYBODY, anybody who hasn't voiced a main character in E7, but no, it had to be Holland's VA. Now you're all going to feel awkward and uneasy if there's ever a scene between Renton and Eureka from here on. And no, that wasn't Storywriter. |
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2012-09-27, 22:54 | Link #2430 | |
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Yeah, even without anything involving old characters it really needs more time in order to accomplish everything it set out to do on it's own with the new characters and story. I hope they get it, there was some really good stuff, just Truth is such a non-personal villain that he hasn't directly pushed Ao, Fleur, and Elena like a traditional antagonist does, this is what I think has lead to a lot of the negativity which is a shame because there was a lot good in what they created for most of the show aside from some weird omissions of screentime (Naru needed more, if Truth was going to stay he needed more so he could be given a more detailed story or at least more menace if he was going to remain the villain). Spoiler for Random thoughts:
That's a good point, that'll probably be one of Renton's duties. You're right, that sounded like the new song he did. Last edited by DangerMouse; 2012-09-28 at 13:50. |
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2012-09-27, 22:56 | Link #2431 | ||
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2012-09-27, 23:02 | Link #2432 | |
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2012-09-27, 23:04 | Link #2434 |
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Holy CRAP Daniel Lind, I recognized Holland's voice as soon as I heard it. That's probably a bad sign, huh? I watched the original so many times I'd recognize that voice anywhere.
Admittedly, the ending with Renton was cool, but I'm just eager to get this over and done with, quite frankly. They've made a habit of showing cool things and then going WHOOPSIES HAHA YOU THOUGHT WERE KNEW WHAT WE WERE DOING! SURE FOOLED YOU! (I.E. theEND, Gekko-Go, whatever the hell they've done with the Spec2, and now Renton) Also, is anyone else freaking upset that Aikawa seems to think that the Nirvash can just be mechanically copied and built? That was never what the old E7 was about. The Nirvash was primarily an archetype, even if it was a unique one. Also throwing around terminology like Seven Swell (which the director obviously associates with the visual alone and not the cause or effects of the phenomenon) is just UGH. |
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Another thing to remember is that this is only small fragments of a much larger whole. I always got the impression that the Scub had a unified will because the command cluster. If pieces of it are getting zapped off the whole, then chances are they're losing that will. Then Naru comes in and makes them spread. There's no particular reason why it couldn't. LFOs used an organic base, but by and large they are machines. The base isn't even a complete human form. Only the final versions were totally organic. It isn't that much of a stretch that Renton, given time, could mechanically duplicate that.
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2012-09-27, 23:10 | Link #2436 | |
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2012-09-27, 23:49 | Link #2437 | ||
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The fact that the writer of AO COMPLETELY blows past all this in what is undoubtedly a ploy to turn AO into your generic military/mecha show makes me highly upset. He obviously doesn't know or care what the original E7 was about or what it stood for. I bet he just saw one shot of the Nirvash's eyes glowing before something happened and went "I want to do this too!" without ever asking about the context. Quote:
I'm not saying Dai Sato has always been a good writer, because he's definitely written some atrocities, but there are too many plot holes and lore holes, mostly created from the ignorance of someone who didn't really care to learn all he could about the series (a series that is arguably one of BONES' best) and just did whatever the hell he wanted. There's no room for forgiveness there, none at all. I just can't wait until this whole debacle is over. Its stupid and annoying and just needs to end. I used to recommend E7 to everyone I knew who would watch anime from time to time and even to those who didn't at all. Now I have to stress that they don't even try to watch the sequel, that its just better to pretend it didn't exist. Last edited by Tyr Valein; 2012-09-28 at 20:29. Reason: edited for accuracy regarding writers/directors |
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2012-09-27, 23:58 | Link #2440 | |
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As far as the director, its Tomoki Kyoda, the same as the original, and he should know the lore of the original series, considering just how involved in the creation of it he was...which makes whats going on in AO all the more puzzling... |
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