[Manga] Chapter 467 Spoiler Discussion

[Sasuke_Bateman]

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[Tsuyoshi]

Originally Posted by Sasuke_Bateman

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Looks like a Rinnegan mixed with the Sharingan. Perhaps that's what the original Rinnegan that belonged to the Rikudo Sennin looked like? And it also seemed to be the eye of the Jyubi.

[ajnas]

Going by that pic, Sasuke is more special than Naruto, I believe this is where all doujutsu's orginated from, the Jyuubi.

[lotus_lee]

[Frenchie]

Originally Posted by lotus_lee

wowowowowowowwowowowowowoww.

Rep time.

[Cub-Sama]

Originally Posted by james0246

^The crow thing was actually a bad early translation (of Kankuro's name at that). The real Jyuubi seems to have one eye and body similar to the Kyuubi.

Originally Posted by Sasuke_Bateman

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Putting those two things together and the shadow beast that we have seen in Sasuke I'm beginning to believe that Sasuke's sharingan is linked to the Jyuubi more than other sharingans. Maybe he is fragment of the Jyuubi and that is why Madara wants him.

It seems like the reason Nagato is significantly weaker than Rikkodou is because the original eye had both Rinnegan and Sharingan mixed and when he gave his son the power it was diluted until only the sharingan was left and the rinnegan a simple genetic mutation.

Also if Sasuke is a fragment of the Jyuubi and so is Nagato then I am calling Final Fantasy VII rip off.

[Tsuyoshi]

Originally Posted by Cub-Sama

Putting those two things together and the shadow beast that we have seen in Sasuke I'm beginning to believe that Sasuke's sharingan is linked to the Jyuubi more than other sharingans. Maybe he is fragment of the Jyuubi and that is why Madara wants him.

It seems like the reason Nagato is significantly weaker than Rikkodou is because the original eye had both Rinnegan and Sharingan mixed and when he gave his son the power it was diluted until only the sharingan was left and the rinnegan a simple genetic mutation.

Also if Sasuke is a fragment of the Jyuubi and so is Nagato then I am calling Final Fantasy VII rip off.

More than Sasuke, I'm willing to think that the entire Uchiha clan is a fragment of the Jyuubi, just like all the other Bijuu. The same can be said about the Senjuu clan. That explains how the Senjuu and Uchiha clans both were able to control the Kyuubi and possibly all the other Bijuu very well. Because they had the power of the Jyuubi, from which all other Bijuu are derived, they had the power of supremacy over them. What makes Sasuke different from Itachi and the rest of the clan (minus Madara) is that Sasuke's heart is filled with hatred, and it is hatred that enables him to make full use of the Jyuubi's power.

Another thing that just came to mind is how Rikudo Sennin sealed the Jyuubi's soul within him. He then split its soul into nine pieces, creating the Bijuu. There's no denying that his sons also inherited Rikudo Sennin's power. Perhaps, like Minato had done with Kyuubi, Rikudo split Jyuubi's power in two when his sons were born, placing the dark side of Jyuubi in his first son with the Sharingan, and the light side in his younger son, like Minato placed the light side of Kyuubi's chakra in Naruto and the dark side someplace else. That is why the Uchiha's power is defined by hatred and bloodlust, if you look at how their Sharingan is made to develop by killing one's closest friend and then taking the eyes of your sibling. Senjuu's power is defined by love and sympathy rather than hatred, and that is how they are able to access their side of Jyuubi's power.

[Gin]

Originally Posted by lotus_lee

rofl

[Mr. Johnny 5]

Originally Posted by Sasuke_Bateman

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Wow... i thought so but the stick and all from the Rikoudou Senin reminded me of something...

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[james0246]

Originally Posted by Cub-Sama

Putting those two things together and the shadow beast that we have seen in Sasuke I'm beginning to believe that Sasuke's sharingan is linked to the Jyuubi more than other sharingans. Maybe he is fragment of the Jyuubi and that is why Madara wants him.

It seems like the reason Nagato is significantly weaker than Rikkodou is because the original eye had both Rinnegan and Sharingan mixed and when he gave his son the power it was diluted until only the sharingan was left and the rinnegan a simple genetic mutation.

Also if Sasuke is a fragment of the Jyuubi and so is Nagato then I am calling Final Fantasy VII rip off.

Hmm, Sasuke's Susano'o/Genjutsu Monster doesn't really look anything like the Jyuubi. The Jyuubi has the Kyuubi's body only with one really big eye (which has the Rinnegan's concentric circles and 9 tomoe), whereas Sasuke's Susano'o/Genjutsu Monster is a weird humanoid giant with strange 6-finger'd hands.

That being said, this theory has certainly attained relevence again .

[rajin]

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[Cub-Sama]

Originally Posted by james0246

Hmm, Sasuke's Susano'o/Genjutsu Monster doesn't really look anything like the Jyuubi. The Jyuubi has the Kyuubi's body only with one really big eye (which has the Rinnegan's concentric circles and 9 tomoe), whereas Sasuke's Susano'o/Genjutsu Monster is a weird humanoid giant with strange 6-finger'd hands.

That being said, this theory has certainly attained relevence again .

I said that it might be a fragment a very small piece of the jyuubi, maybe it is a small piece of the jyuubi's hatred. I don't think that the showing of the shadow beast consuming Sasuke and the jyuubi being mentioned are two seperate events.

It looks like Naruto will be coming to an end soon but I wont be surprised if Kishi makes a spin-off story revolving around Rikkodou Sennin and his sons which explain most of Naruto.

@Where is Hidan in that pic I cant see him

[Rahan]

Originally Posted by Cub-Sama

@Where is Hidan in that pic I cant see him

Hidan and Sasori are missing ...
Those are only characters who interacted directly with Naruto, no matter how brief their interaction was (soon it will be revealed Kisame was Jiraya's mole, Deidara fought Sasuke because he was afraid Sasuke would hurt Naruto and Orochimaru is coming back to protect Naruto)

[The-Wolf-Of-Mibu]

Oh how useless Byakugan is in comparison to the way the manga was set up early on lol.

Remember when Hyuuga was touted as the one of the two greatest clans in Konoha. Sharingan evolved from Byakugan and all that. Remember how impressed Kakashi was when he saw Neji fighting Hinata and he exclaimed "I didn't know a guy like this existed. Our sasuke is no match for him".

Lol with all the insane powerups Sasuke or Naruto could kill Neji in their sleep.

I wonder if Kishi plans on tying up those kinds of loose ends or will he simply ignore them in favor of evermore grandiose narratives which pop out of the blue.

[darkmaster074]

Originally Posted by lotus_lee

WTF

iam sure that will happen at the end

[james0246]

@Cub: Oh, I misunderstood then, I apologies.

That being said, what a stupid colour cover page. No consistency, no theme, just random characters (and yes, they are random, considering that Naruto has interacted with far more characters (in far more important ways) than are shown in the image; I mean, where is Iruka or Hiruzen? Shikimaru or Hinata? Freaking Minato? etc) standing around in no particular order...

And the colour images of Sakura and company walking is equally unimpressive. Why would I want to see a colour image for characters I already know the colour of and a conversation that is ultimately boring...

And the magazine cover (of SJ) is equally stupid. Who wants to see an action pic of Naruto eating ramen?

Big disappointment for these colour pages...

[The-Wolf-Of-Mibu]

Who is this person top left of Jiraiya? And why is he among a the manga's reccuring characers

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[Rahan]

Originally Posted by The-Wolf-Of-Mibu

Oh how useless Byakugan is in comparison to the way the manga was set up early on lol.

Remember when Hyuuga was touted as the one of the two greatest clans in Konoha. Sharingan evolved from Byakugan and all that. Remember how impressed Kakashi was when he saw Neji fighting Hinata and he exclaimed "I didn't know a guy like this existed. Our sasuke is no match for him".

Lol with all the insane powerups Sasuke or Naruto could kill Neji in their sleep.

I wonder if Kishi plans on tying up those kinds of loose ends or will he simply ignore them in favor of evermore grandiose narratives which pop out of the blue.

Hyuuga are gone forever ...
Their crest didn't even appear among the ones of the clans fighting against Senju / Uchiha, unlike the Nara and a few other known clans. (granted we don't see all the clans, but they should have had a somehow central position if they were so important)
Ao is probably the last time we'll see one fighting.

Originally Posted by james0246

@Cub: Oh, I misunderstood then, I apologies.

That being said, what a stupid colour cover page. No consistency, no theme, just random characters (and yes, they are random, considering that Naruto has interacted with far more characters (in far more important ways) than are shown in the image; I mean, where is Iruka or Hiruzen? Shikimaru or Hinata? Freaking Minato? etc) standing around in no particular order...

Almost all the characters here appeared hostile to Naruto, but were changed at some point by Naruto. You could have a point with Iruka though. Even Kakashi took time to warm up to Naruto (didn't he say he was "starting to like him" in the Wind training arc ?)
That's why I joked about Kisame, Deidara and Oro, whose inclusion seems weird. (Kisame doesn't give a damn, Deidara was just infuriated and Oro was amused)

Oh, and Neji is missing (refer to the first part of this post)

Edit : forgot about Kimimaro. Can't make him fit in this. I guess it's just random after all.

Originally Posted by The-Wolf-Of-Mibu

Who is this person top left of Jiraiya? And why is he among a the manga's reccuring characers

It's Zabuza.

[ajnas]

Deidara and Kisame is just random, so is Kimmimaro.

[Tsuyoshi]

Originally Posted by lotus_lee

Watch this. Madara makes a Death Star out of the moon and takes over the world. He'll then use the Death Star to conquer other planets. And this is how Star Wars really began.