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EroKing · 2014-12-16, 13:53

Flower · 2014-12-16, 20:48

Ep 11

Hmm...I wonder how they are going to tie everything together here. That was a pretty good ep, and the story continues to hold my interest. Yui really is becoming a tragic character, though....

Legendzerox · 2014-12-20, 13:08

-In Search of the Lost Future episode 12 FINAL-
Oh joy. I love it when animes do this. The ending ended in the true end, but not the true end. The ending was clearly an advertisement to entice watchers to explore the source material to see the real ending. I really fucking hate this shit since we don't even have access to the source material. Before I watched the final, I had planned to include this in my top 5. Well not anymore. Overall it was an enjoyable watch, but since the ending was nothing but an advertisement, I will give it a 7/10.

VTHokiePride · 2014-12-20, 15:29

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Originally Posted by Legendzerox

-In Search of the Lost Future episode 12 FINAL-
Oh joy. I love it when animes do this. The ending ended in the true end, but not the true end. The ending was clearly an advertisement to entice watchers to explore the source material to see the real ending. I really fucking hate this shit since we don't even have access to the source material. Before I watched the final, I had planned to include this in my top 5. Well not anymore. Overall it was an enjoyable watch, but since the ending was nothing but an advertisement, I will give it a 7/10.

That wasn't the true ending? Can someone please tell me what it is? I thought the true ending was the Kaori wakes up and that's it.

For the finale, I thought it was alright, but I magically wish that an image of Yui appeared on the photo at the very end or ends where Sou decides to build Yui.

Overall, the series was interesting but the finale was meh.

Iby · 2014-12-20, 16:48

So... uhhh... Kaori was saved but actually wasn't, or what the heck was that in the end? I don't get it. I mean if the worlds have really merged then there shouldn't be the future where Kaori dies? And then they do this rewind thing in the ending...

serenade_beta · 2014-12-20, 17:26

*facepalm*
Well, it doesn't feel like anything was solved. In a way, there is just nothing to say, because it was so... bad.
The episode that focused on Sempai had good quality and the story was actually good. That was probably the only part of this anime that had value to it. The rest wasn't good in any way. Thankfully, that weird 3D art in the first episode wasn't used in the rest of the episodes, I guess?

3/10

Sayaka Rei · 2014-12-20, 17:35

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Originally Posted by VTHokiePride

That wasn't the true ending? Can someone please tell me what it is? I thought the true ending was the Kaori wakes up and that's it.

For the finale, I thought it was alright, but I magically wish that an image of Yui appeared on the photo at the very end or ends where Sou decides to build Yui.

Overall, the series was interesting but the finale was meh.

This was the TRUE END from the VN (thanks to Avaritica from MAL)

Spoiler for true end:

In one of the Yui x Sou loops, Yui disappeared in front of Sou on Oct 14,2008. Normally, to maintain the loop continuum, everyone forgot about Yui when she disappear. However, this time no one forget her. According to Airi, his feeling for Yui grew too strong and that break the causality of "Yui will be forgotten when she disappear". Ironically, because of that irregularity, they failed to create Yui in this loop. Sou couldn't bear this(given that she is his girlfriend in current loop) and time traveled to the past to meet with Yui again.

The future Sou merged with the past Sou. He found Yui and the two of them enjoyed some sweet time together.

The destined day has arrived. This time, the 2 cooperated to stop the accident. And........they succeeded. They finally prevented the terrible fate of Kaori.

Happy ever after .................................................. ........... not yet. Yui will be erased whether the accident happened or not so they only had one final night to be together. When Yui is about to disappear, Sou got an idea. Yui might be able to continue to exist if she can leave the proof of her existence somehow before the accident happened. Thinking that, Sou forcefully pushed the naked Yui into the elevator(their time-travel gate) and sent her back to the start.

This connects to the anime episode 2. The time-quake occurred and Yui was moved to the past. She was found naked by Sou. She immediately called the name of her lover but naturally, the current Sou didn't know her. Yui realized and thus feinted oblivious. This time, she acted without deeply involved with anyone and the day before the accident, she left the proof of her existence by copying all of her memories into the AI cube.

Oct 14, 2008, she went to stop the accident. The causality was somewhat messed up as this time a crane, not bus, was about to crush Kaori. But still, she succeeded in saving Kaori. With her duty done, Yui silently disappeared. Consequently, the group forgot Yui.
.
.
.
HOWEVER, after sometimes, they regained their memories about Yui. (Don't ask me why. You know the cliche xD) They found Yui's data in the cube, created Yui again and also succeeded in perfect of transfer of her memories. And finally, a future whether both Kaori and Yui are alive is found ~~~ FIN!

Well there are differences with the anime, but I thought that the end would be similar, however not entirely ...

Or rather, it's probably a way to push to buy the VN ... Suo, while talking in the car with Airi, seems to understand what will happen ... it's also discernible in the part where Suon decides on his future career (doctor?)... That is, in the end I think Yui will be recreated because they will remember her ...

I think maybe there could be two timeline .... one with adult Suo and Kaori who wakes up, the other with him that reminds Yui and recreates it in the end !

Burden · 2014-12-20, 17:49

...Fumbled at the 10 yard line.

Flower · 2014-12-20, 17:55

Ep 12

Hrm...well, after reading the above summary I can appreciate the attempt to even try to create a series like this. Talk about convoluted and confusing.

That being said, I did get that in the time line where Kaori was saved and Sou rejected her that it was implied that Sou was going to take up a career path that would somehow (not sure how) dovetail back into re-creating Yui. A weird sort of "chasing after his experiences of deja vu" or something...at least as implied in the anime.

If only they had made him at the very least somehow clearly remember Yui it might have made it more plausible for me as a whole. But as it was omitting that kinda blurred everything for me and I had to assume that he somehow did, giving it the great big benefit of the doubt.

And in the initial time-line Kaori and Sou were finally re-united after the former woke up from her coma. Which kinda made me wonder (anime only viewing perspective) whether or no what he did with Yui really was practical or realistic or necessary in the first place - it ultimately comes across as extraordinarily cruel and inhumane, especially considering he knew what he was doing and knew that Yui knew that she was being used as a tool.

Sorry, to me Sou just comes across as a rather despicable, self centered and even spoiled child type of person to be honest. I really don't think he "deserved" any other character in the story, no matter how well written the story on the whole was.

~Yami~ · 2014-12-20, 18:07

I guess 12 episodes won't be enough to make a future where every Astronomy Club exist

I love this ending... so finally there is a way to break the loop.. and Sou created Yui would support the first timeline where they suddenly find a mysterious AI with unknown creator
with that spoiler summary, I think this VN is really perfect in picturing time-loop without holes
There is also an ending where Kaori opened her eyes...

now.. I demand an OVA for Airi's ending

I guess in order for Airi's ending, Airi should muster her courage to confess first to Sou before Kaori did... or Airi would somehow ended up in Yui's role, where Sou rejected Kaori because he's in love with Airi

good anime and fun ride so far.. confusing but I like this

Stark700 · 2014-12-20, 18:09

I wish they focused a bit more on Yui in the finale. Sigh, the finale felt lackluster. The last few episodes had a decent momentum but the finale didn't do it for me. Oh well..

RX-78GP04G Gerbera · 2014-12-20, 18:17

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Originally Posted by Flower

Sorry, to me Sou just comes across as a rather despicable, self centered and even spoiled child type of person to be honest. I really don't think he "deserved" any other character in the story, no matter how well written the story on the whole was.

Yeah, it's like I said before, Sou doesn't even seem like he really wanted to save Kaori more so than that he just want to alleviate his own feelings of guilt for not properly responding to Kaori's feelings. He even had a wonderful woman like Airi who was always standing right by his side through the whole thing and always supporting him when it was probably tearing her up inside to see him how he is and such when any other woman would've most likely long since walked away.

VTHokiePride · 2014-12-20, 19:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sayaka Rei

This was the TRUE END from the VN (thanks to Avaritica from MAL)

Spoiler for true end:

In one of the Yui x Sou loops, Yui disappeared in front of Sou on Oct 14,2008. Normally, to maintain the loop continuum, everyone forgot about Yui when she disappear. However, this time no one forget her. According to Airi, his feeling for Yui grew too strong and that break the causality of "Yui will be forgotten when she disappear". Ironically, because of that irregularity, they failed to create Yui in this loop. Sou couldn't bear this(given that she is his girlfriend in current loop) and time traveled to the past to meet with Yui again.

The future Sou merged with the past Sou. He found Yui and the two of them enjoyed some sweet time together.

The destined day has arrived. This time, the 2 cooperated to stop the accident. And........they succeeded. They finally prevented the terrible fate of Kaori.

Happy ever after .................................................. ........... not yet. Yui will be erased whether the accident happened or not so they only had one final night to be together. When Yui is about to disappear, Sou got an idea. Yui might be able to continue to exist if she can leave the proof of her existence somehow before the accident happened. Thinking that, Sou forcefully pushed the naked Yui into the elevator(their time-travel gate) and sent her back to the start.

This connects to the anime episode 2. The time-quake occurred and Yui was moved to the past. She was found naked by Sou. She immediately called the name of her lover but naturally, the current Sou didn't know her. Yui realized and thus feinted oblivious. This time, she acted without deeply involved with anyone and the day before the accident, she left the proof of her existence by copying all of her memories into the AI cube.

Oct 14, 2008, she went to stop the accident. The causality was somewhat messed up as this time a crane, not bus, was about to crush Kaori. But still, she succeeded in saving Kaori. With her duty done, Yui silently disappeared. Consequently, the group forgot Yui.
.
.
.
HOWEVER, after sometimes, they regained their memories about Yui. (Don't ask me why. You know the cliche xD) They found Yui's data in the cube, created Yui again and also succeeded in perfect of transfer of her memories. And finally, a future whether both Kaori and Yui are alive is found ~~~ FIN!

Well there are differences with the anime, but I thought that the end would be similar, however not entirely ...

Or rather, it's probably a way to push to buy the VN ... Suo, while talking in the car with Airi, seems to understand what will happen ... it's also discernible in the part where Suon decides on his future career (doctor?)... That is, in the end I think Yui will be recreated because they will remember her ...

I think maybe there could be two timeline .... one with adult Suo and Kaori who wakes up, the other with him that reminds Yui and recreates it in the end !

So it all turns into 1 big loop, but after a while Yui comes back. I hope they make an OVA for when he eventually creates her then. More closure for Yui would be nice.

Miraluka · 2014-12-20, 19:48

Osananajimi won, but it was hard to pull it off.

TheInfinityZERO · 2014-12-21, 01:10

I thought it ended well.

Spoiler for My opinion on the ending.:

Ringil · 2014-12-21, 03:46

I felt that it ended fine. Nothing particularly special, like the anime overall. It was at least not as boring as the VN though.

frodonk · 2014-12-21, 10:23

Time travel, no matter what genre, always manages to confuse people, this one is no exception.

Yui has been to many different timelines, and yet I think we've been shown only 2 of those at the final episode, the original timeline where yui was first made and the other timeline where Yui finally succeeded in saving kaori by disappearing.

Considering how robotic Yui was in her manners, her apparent feelings for Sou didn't have that much impact on me. In the end, it was a perfectly fine series that I'll probably forget about when I wake up tomorrow, just like how everyone forgot about Yui.

Legendzerox · 2014-12-21, 13:40

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Originally Posted by Stark700

I wish they focused a bit more on Yui in the finale. Sigh, the finale felt lackluster. The last few episodes had a decent momentum but the finale didn't do it for me. Oh well..

The last episode had literally nothing going on for 15 minutes and they wasted all that time with pointless dialogue. The ending was pretty fail.

justsomeguy · 2014-12-21, 18:33

My god, reading that summary Sayaka Rei posted shines a very poor light on episode 12. The way the anime has it, Yui was left as nothing more than a tool who ceases to exist once her mission is over, and future Sou has to admit that he was being an ass, while the romance with her past Sou has is left abandoned. (Sure, Yui might have been a failed attempt to recreate Kaori, but in the anime at least she has grown into a much more interesting character than Kaori, who was just plain generic.) By itself, the anime finale was not bad, but the true end sounds much richer and gave Yui much fairer treatment. Of course, the true end also sounds like it'll take at least two episodes, which judging by the overall quality of the show I doubt the production team had the budget to even consider.

7/10. In the end, this show was nothing special. On the plus side, there's a decent and coherent plot. The songs were pretty good, with the Yui version of the ED standing out. On the other hand, the characters were somewhat generic and boring, and personally I think focusing on Yui's storyline for more episodes would have helped. And of course to mention the quality once again, the VN art still looks gorgeous, while the show's art would only be average even by the standards of 2004.

Anh_Minh · 2014-12-21, 18:40

Looking on the bright side, it avoids the father/daughter incest.

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Flower Blooming on the mountain Join Date: May 2010 Location: Deep in their roots, all flowers keep the light....	Ep 11 Hmm...I wonder how they are going to tie everything together here. That was a pretty good ep, and the story continues to hold my interest. Yui really is becoming a tragic character, though.... __________________

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serenade_beta そのおっぱいで13才 Join Date: Dec 2006	facepalm Well, it doesn't feel like anything was solved. In a way, there is just nothing to say, because it was so... bad. The episode that focused on Sempai had good quality and the story was actually good. That was probably the only part of this anime that had value to it. The rest wasn't good in any way. Thankfully, that weird 3D art in the first episode wasn't used in the rest of the episodes, I guess? 3/10 __________________ -Blog --> http://tdnshumi.blogspot.com/ (Mainly about video games) -R.I.P. Hiroshi Yamauchi, Gaming wouldn't have been the same without you (9/19/13)

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Flower Blooming on the mountain Join Date: May 2010 Location: Deep in their roots, all flowers keep the light....	Ep 12 Hrm...well, after reading the above summary I can appreciate the attempt to even try to create a series like this. Talk about convoluted and confusing. That being said, I did get that in the time line where Kaori was saved and Sou rejected her that it was implied that Sou was going to take up a career path that would somehow (not sure how) dovetail back into re-creating Yui. A weird sort of "chasing after his experiences of deja vu" or something...at least as implied in the anime. If only they had made him at the very least somehow clearly remember Yui it might have made it more plausible for me as a whole. But as it was omitting that kinda blurred everything for me and I had to assume that he somehow did, giving it the great big benefit of the doubt. And in the initial time-line Kaori and Sou were finally re-united after the former woke up from her coma. Which kinda made me wonder (anime only viewing perspective) whether or no what he did with Yui really was practical or realistic or necessary in the first place - it ultimately comes across as extraordinarily cruel and inhumane, especially considering he knew what he was doing and knew that Yui knew that she was being used as a tool. Sorry, to me Sou just comes across as a rather despicable, self centered and even spoiled child type of person to be honest. I really don't think he "deserved" any other character in the story, no matter how well written the story on the whole was. __________________

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Stark700 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Somewhere on Earth	I wish they focused a bit more on Yui in the finale. Sigh, the finale felt lackluster. The last few episodes had a decent momentum but the finale didn't do it for me. Oh well.. __________________

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Legendzerox Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2014	-In Search of the Lost Future episode 12 FINAL- Oh joy. I love it when animes do this. The ending ended in the true end, but not the true end. The ending was clearly an advertisement to entice watchers to explore the source material to see the real ending. I really fucking hate this shit since we don't even have access to the source material. Before I watched the final, I had planned to include this in my top 5. Well not anymore. Overall it was an enjoyable watch, but since the ending was nothing but an advertisement, I will give it a 7/10.

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Iby minority spirit(?) Fansubber Join Date: May 2011 Location: Hyakka Ryoran Age: 33	So... uhhh... Kaori was saved but actually wasn't, or what the heck was that in the end? I don't get it. I mean if the worlds have really merged then there shouldn't be the future where Kaori dies? And then they do this rewind thing in the ending...

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Burden Senior Member Join Date: May 2012	...Fumbled at the 10 yard line.

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~Yami~ a random Indonesian otaku Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Xanadu Age: 32	I guess 12 episodes won't be enough to make a future where every Astronomy Club exist I love this ending... so finally there is a way to break the loop.. and Sou created Yui would support the first timeline where they suddenly find a mysterious AI with unknown creator with that spoiler summary, I think this VN is really perfect in picturing time-loop without holes There is also an ending where Kaori opened her eyes... now.. I demand an OVA for Airi's ending I guess in order for Airi's ending, Airi should muster her courage to confess first to Sou before Kaori did... or Airi would somehow ended up in Yui's role, where Sou rejected Kaori because he's in love with Airi good anime and fun ride so far.. confusing but I like this

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Miraluka Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Age: 34	Osananajimi won, but it was hard to pull it off.

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TheInfinityZERO Mugen //Zero Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: San Diego, CA	I thought it ended well. Spoiler for My opinion on the ending.: Future Sou explained it in the last episode while riding with Airi in her RX-7 - eventually the different worlds will merge, but when it will is the issue. To put it short, Sou got to have his cake and eat it too. To my understanding, unless I missed something, they created a body to transfer Kaori's memories into and it failed leading them to creating Yui, it doesn't change the fact that Yui = Kaori. Kaori telling Yui that she reminded of her was evidence of the fact that all they changed on Yui's body was the appearance. Time loop broken, Yui then returns to her source.

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Ringil Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011	I felt that it ended fine. Nothing particularly special, like the anime overall. It was at least not as boring as the VN though.

2014-12-21, 10:23	Link #157
frodonk Master of Killing Time Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Makinohara Service Area	Time travel, no matter what genre, always manages to confuse people, this one is no exception. Yui has been to many different timelines, and yet I think we've been shown only 2 of those at the final episode, the original timeline where yui was first made and the other timeline where Yui finally succeeded in saving kaori by disappearing. Considering how robotic Yui was in her manners, her apparent feelings for Sou didn't have that much impact on me. In the end, it was a perfectly fine series that I'll probably forget about when I wake up tomorrow, just like how everyone forgot about Yui.

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justsomeguy Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004	My god, reading that summary Sayaka Rei posted shines a very poor light on episode 12. The way the anime has it, Yui was left as nothing more than a tool who ceases to exist once her mission is over, and future Sou has to admit that he was being an ass, while the romance with her past Sou has is left abandoned. (Sure, Yui might have been a failed attempt to recreate Kaori, but in the anime at least she has grown into a much more interesting character than Kaori, who was just plain generic.) By itself, the anime finale was not bad, but the true end sounds much richer and gave Yui much fairer treatment. Of course, the true end also sounds like it'll take at least two episodes, which judging by the overall quality of the show I doubt the production team had the budget to even consider. 7/10. In the end, this show was nothing special. On the plus side, there's a decent and coherent plot. The songs were pretty good, with the Yui version of the ED standing out. On the other hand, the characters were somewhat generic and boring, and personally I think focusing on Yui's storyline for more episodes would have helped. And of course to mention the quality once again, the VN art still looks gorgeous, while the show's art would only be average even by the standards of 2004. __________________ Currently watching: Arrow, The Flash, Gundam IBO, Euphonium, Occultic;Nine, Girlish Number Currently playing: LoH Trails in the Sky SC

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