2009-09-09, 04:15 | Link #202 | |
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I'm actually not even claiming Clannad is mature, nor am I contesting your opinion on the ending. I just don't think your explanation has anything to do with the show's maturity.
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2009-09-09, 16:31 | Link #205 | ||
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In fact I don't even understand how one goes about abusing a medium. Oh sure I can understand misusing a medium (I'm looking you, evangelion) but how does a someone go about hurting a medium? |
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2009-09-09, 16:53 | Link #206 | ||
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So just learning to enjoy (or hate) something for what it is helped me approach matters with a more open mind. I just looked up and realized... it's just entertainment anyways.
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2009-09-10, 04:04 | Link #207 |
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The irony of the word "maturity" is that those who use it a lot don't know what it really means, while those who understood it and have attained it don't need to say it out loud because their actions are enough to show it.
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2009-09-10, 14:04 | Link #209 |
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If you can't get agreement on what constitutes a mature story in the first, place, I don't think you'll get agreement on where series fit on a scale. In fact I'd go as far as to say it would encourage more vicious debates, since you'd essentially be pitting various fanbases against one another.
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2009-09-11, 16:42 | Link #210 | ||
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(I checked this scene on youtube for reference and don't know any background about this show...) Quote:
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Legitimate was probably a poor choice of words on my part. All I'm saying is that at the end of the day, it's not a scene that I look at and go "the writers and director shouldn't have included that or done it differently". I suspect that your opinion on this is probably quite different from mine, but I think it's also think it's safe to say that Clannad is not in general your kind of show. Now, let's go back to an earlier statement in this thread: Quote:
In the end, it all cycles back to my dispute with the OP for this thread: typical anime fanservice scenes may make me want to bang my head on my desk, but I don't thinkthey need to be relegated to OVAs only. I actually prefer my fanservice mixed with plot. |
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2009-09-11, 22:08 | Link #212 |
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Hey - I'm not going to concern myself with people's personal tastes, as long as we tone down on the use of fuzzy terms like "mature" or "adult" as if they have some inherent connection with fanservice.
As for the second point, I don't watch dating sim anime so I don't particularly care about their use of fanservice - if that's what the fans what, I'm not going to stand in their way. I would care if it showed up in anime I take seriously or think has artistic merit like Mushishi or Whisper of the Heart, which are of course a tiny, tiny minority. Like I said before, overall I don't particularly have a vendetta against fanservice - the kind of anime I find worthwhile rarely resort to it anyways. If we reach the point in anime-dom where all anime is forced to include ecchi scenes to be commercially viable, then I will have a problem.
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