2007-06-18, 10:27 | Link #2181 | ||||||
Adeptus Animus
Author
Join Date: Jan 2007
Age: 36
|
Quote:
Smith & Wesson have ripped the page with 'sublety' out of their dictionairy, haven't they? Quote:
Quote:
No... She'll definetely not like that.... Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Speaking of health drinks.... Keroko: Ah? Is everyone hanging around here? Ah! great, drinks, I'm thirsy. Nanoha/Kha: Kero-! Keroko: *Downs the entire drink in one go* Nanoha/Kha: *Stare with a large sweatdrop* Keroko: *puts down the glass, only then does the taste starts to register* Don't tell me... Liana's health drink? Nanoha/Kha: *nod sadly* Keroko: Ah... So ka... *stumbles back outside* Kha: *sighs* I'll get her a double lunch. She's going to need it after she's finished emptying her stomach. |
||||||
2007-06-18, 10:29 | Link #2182 | |||||||
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Philippines
|
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
__________________
|
|||||||
2007-06-18, 10:31 | Link #2183 | |
Human
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Currently - Germany
Age: 38
|
Quote:
Regarding fighting illusions, aside from VA reference , Serge doesn't need to keep his eyes open participating in a magical duel |
|
2007-06-18, 10:47 | Link #2184 | |||||
Secret Society BLANKET
Graphic Designer
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: 3 times the passion of normal flamenco
|
Quote:
And... how should Keroko and Mai meet anyway? Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Spoiler for Instant Death:
Quote:
And yes he is, although the 79th has their own Investigations Team, making them incredibly autonomous. Cocky are we?
__________________
|
|||||
2007-06-18, 11:11 | Link #2185 | ||
Adeptus Animus
Author
Join Date: Jan 2007
Age: 36
|
Quote:
Quote:
Keroko won't have any motivation to even try eating lunch at this rate. |
||
2007-06-18, 11:18 | Link #2186 | |||
Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Philippines
|
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
W-WHAT THE HELL?!?!? We're doomed! Run for your lives! Liana: Kusuha:
__________________
|
|||
2007-06-18, 11:21 | Link #2187 | |
Mistress of Impatience
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: In a place of extremes. From below freezing to above boiling.
|
Quote:
Cass: Boy, I did well in listening to Lieutenant Takamachi and Captain Testarossa >< Ken: Glad you did. I wouldn't want to put flowers in your coffin Chief Artes: You sure about that? Look above. Cass and Ken: Ken: Let's make a run for it Chief! |
|
2007-06-18, 13:06 | Link #2188 |
Adeptus Animus
Author
Join Date: Jan 2007
Age: 36
|
Oh, one more thing concerning Keroko. Due to problems between her ranking and Hayate's (Keroko was equally ranked with Hayate, but got promoted far before her, even though storywise Hayate was the first to get promoted that high that fast) I am dropping her rank from Commomwealth Air Force Wing Commander to normal Air Force Captain.
This mistake was mostly due to a combination of my own hastiness, ignorance of millitairy rankings, and love for X-wing novels. Talk about killing your darlings. |
2007-06-18, 13:13 | Link #2189 |
~ I Do ~
Author
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: In the XV-8A Spartan "00"
Age: 38
|
Just another thought that has been spinning in my head ever since one Espada referred to Vivio as "Seijou":
Spoiler for Vivio...?:
For God Empress H*****, and the Star Child VIVIO!!!
__________________
|
2007-06-18, 15:38 | Link #2190 | |
Adeptus Animus
Author
Join Date: Jan 2007
Age: 36
|
Quote:
Th-the god emperor of mankind!?!?!?! *looks again* Dammit Kha! You had me scared there for a sec! *Sigh* Oh yeah, I finished the second part of the getting-Nanoha-to-relax fluff: Sisters by soul. Spoiler for Sisters by soul:
Last edited by Keroko; 2007-06-18 at 16:10. |
|
2007-06-18, 16:11 | Link #2193 |
Hiromi
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: The Girl who Lost her Tears
|
Hello everyone. I have very little time for reading right now, so I apologize for not making comments on what you guys are talking about now...
However, I do have a few comments about what you guys were talking about yesterday (sorry ) which involves this thread's #1 target: the infamous Serge. Yesterday I had some time so I read through all 5 acts of An Hero's scenario. That was very nice, An Hero. I liked how the whole battle played out, Serge's objectives and motivations, and how thoroughly you explained everything. HOW DARE YOU DO THAT TO NANOHA, YOU B-- err... oops, I didnt mean to say that out loud. You know, I already had an idea of what special powers I was going to give Gaia by the time I created my 5 Relic users, but I did not have a good way to explain how his powers worked. However, thanks to An Hero's ideas about Serge's powers I now have a good way of describing how they work. You guys will not see Gaia in action until a couple of episodes from now, but expect some uber h4xness. I'm serious about this. This leads to what I want to say now: How far should we develop our characters? --First a disclaimer: while I will be using Serge to explain my points, I by no means am saying that he should be nerfed. In fact, I love Serge--he's just how I would do a badass villain.-- I dont know if you, An Hero, noticed while you were writing your combat scenario against the Aces, but I found out while writing my ficlets how... under-skilled (for the lack of a better word) the Aces are. What I'm trying to say is that our Aces only have about 4-5 major skills that they use in different ways. Example, Nanoha's offensive arsenal consists of Divine Buster, Accel Shooter, Starlight Breaker and Excelion Buster, and a few other, which are variations of these four main spells. The first three do about the same thing: attack the target directly with raw power. The fourth is Nanoha's attempt at melee combat. If we group her spells this way, we see that Nanoha's main ability is long range energy bombardment, and Excelion Buster is Raising Heart's attempt to give Nanoha another combat approach in battle. As you can see, Nanoha doesnt go too far away from her main combat style which is long range combat. She did reveal another spell, Stardust Fall (was it? forgot the name), so she might have other spells hidden from us right now, but I strongly believe that they will all fall into the long-range category. Now, if we see characters like Serge, he has 10 known abilities (as An Hero obviously has a bunch others trump cards under his sleeve) all of which do different things. In his case, 7 of the spells counter 7 or more different types of attacks, which include melee, mid-range, and long-range. In other words, this guy is capable of handling almost every attack thrown at him! And we were proven this by An Hero's scenario. To think that he is only two years older than our Aces... And what about characters like Kha? He has more spells, barrier jacket forms, and device modes than all our Aces combined. I cannot comment about Kha right now, though, as we have yet to see him in action. How does he handle his huge arsenal of spells? Is he a quick thinker? Can he actually remember all the spells he has and use each of them in the right circumstances? Does changing between barrier jacket forms and device modes affect his stamina? This is why I like to create characters with a main strength or ability, and then make them learn new moves by modifying such ability or using the ability in different ways as the need arises. However, I've been trying to make my characters fit into the main canon without problems, as proven in my little fanfic, so I guess that's why my characters are all underdeveloped, as I take a different approach when creating a character. BTW, these comments were all thought up after I tried to get Kha and Serge involved in my fanfic. They seem to be way out of my character's, and even the Aces', league. What do you guys think? |
2007-06-18, 16:22 | Link #2194 | |
Adeptus Animus
Author
Join Date: Jan 2007
Age: 36
|
Quote:
Spoiler for watch... and be amazed.:
Straight and simple copy-pasta from Wiki. And that is only Nanoha's spell list. Kinda puts things into perspective, doesn't it? |
|
2007-06-18, 16:47 | Link #2195 | |
Hiromi
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: The Girl who Lost her Tears
|
Quote:
I didnt want to go into listing every single spell Nanoha has, so I just took her offensive spells part as an example. Just look at the spell lists: her defensive abilities are all standard, so there is no point into going through them. Every mage should have them, or slightly different versions of them, or they wont survive. Now for the offensive spells, I'll go through it again: Divine Buster, Starlight Breaker (Plus and EX), Accel Shooter, Divine Buster Extension. These all fall into the long-range bombardment category. Forget the fancy names, they all do the same thing: long-range bombardment. Barrier Burst is quite a unique one, as it uses a shield spell to activate. And, as I said too, Excelion Buster is an attempt at melee combat. But basically she only does one thing: long-range attacks. That was my point. Its not how many named spells you have. My point was how versatile can or should a character be? Anyone could create a character that can perfectly perform long-range, mid-range and melee abilities, but such character would be considered unbeatable. (Read as: God-like). Please read my post again. |
|
2007-06-18, 16:53 | Link #2196 | |
Adeptus Animus
Author
Join Date: Jan 2007
Age: 36
|
Quote:
As for someone who can perfectly perform long-range, mid-range and melee abilities... a certian blonde haired scythe wielding mage comes to mind. If canon can do it, why can't we? Fate can do all three, and she's not invincible either. |
|
2007-06-18, 16:54 | Link #2197 | |
the "Z" is for "Zeta"
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Portugal
|
Quote:
Ok, the drawing of the "movie scene" as requested... Spoiler for Rice and Pasta:
Yeah, it was a bit rushed...kid of like the last movie scene...lol
__________________
|
|
2007-06-18, 17:11 | Link #2198 | |
Hiromi
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: The Girl who Lost her Tears
|
Quote:
Did you read Serge's fight against the Aces? That was what I was trying to discuss. I brought up Kha as a small example of a very well developed character who is very versatile and has a bunch of spells, but I never mentioned he is overpowered. And as I said, we have yet to see Kha in action, so I wonder how he uses his arsenal of spells. I wasnt picking on his number of spells, but just how good he is at using his extensive arsenal of spells in a combat situation. Just think of a scenario where Hayate has to search her Book for a spell in middle of combat and she is not able to find it in time. (An example. If you want, use another character instead of Hayate) Hehe... Not exactly what I was wanting to discuss... |
|
2007-06-18, 17:15 | Link #2199 |
Adeptus Animus
Author
Join Date: Jan 2007
Age: 36
|
Ah, well, can't disagree with the Serge thing. Heck, it's actually one of the topics of the moment who would fight how and win or lose against Serge.
Blah, my discussion skills are low at the moment, I blame sleep. I'll come back with good arguments tommorow. |
2007-06-18, 17:42 | Link #2200 | |
Hiromi
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: The Girl who Lost her Tears
|
Quote:
Well, internet time is over now. Be back in 20 hours... when the discussions are over, as always. See ya guys later. |
|
|
|