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思慕 is the word used by official Taiwan version without any ruby, which only appears in love songs/letters(/E-mails) nowadays. http://dictionary.goo.ne.jp/leaf/cj/...0%9D%E6%85%95/ This is the current 2ch thread. http://hello.2ch.net/test/read.cgi/magazin/1415980480/ Read post 196 and the few posts following (especially 198). Most interpret it as love. I personally do not believe we will get an answer for this until Omori himself adds more plot related to this skill specifically. As previously mentioned, this is a recurring discussion everywhere, which while is interesting to me, also never really goes anywhere except agree to disagree. I think when the English version comes out, the term will still be very ambiguous such as "feeling" or "yearning", which could really just be anything; or Yen On translator might surprise me with a more definitive translation, since s/he went with picking up girls for the title anyway. The one piece of new information that we MIGHT get is the ruby for Single Minded Pursuit. The Taiwan version totally ignored it despite not ignoring other rubies like Arcanum, which just makes me think the translator has no idea what リアリス・フレーゼ is supposed to be either. Either way, every single description of the skill can be interpreted some other way (especially 憧憬 in the skill name itself, which Omori has used it for Bell's idolization of heroes), with the exception of 懸想, which is what I'm basing my interpretation on. PS: Who the heck is Allegis or Eregis or Urekis or whatever? Original text is 戦士アレギス, anyone have any idea? Might be an Omori original but I'm curious (maybe an anagram even?). |
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2014-11-22, 22:18 | Link #1084 | |
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2014-11-22, 22:51 | Link #1086 | |
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Separately from what I Am saying above, we know that bates is off wrong from sword orataria. Aizu actually thinks bells of as a person who reminded her of her important people(parents). And he certainly not trash as bates calls him which he will later find out. Aizu as of yet has to show romantic interest towards anything... She just wants to become strong as quickly as possible( and meet a hero? Sword orataria vaguely mentions this, although she believes it is impossible).
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2014-11-23, 01:46 | Link #1088 | |
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"Either way, every single description of the skill can be interpreted some other way (especially 憧憬 in the skill name itself, which Omori has used it for Bell's idolization of heroes), with the exception of 懸想, which is what I'm basing my interpretation on." This is from Kunagisa. In his previous post he also included a link to a dictionary for this word in case you missed it. Not that these are not entire posts from(as they are too big I didn't include everything) him but just relevant parts. They might feel out of context, so reading his posts will help.
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2014-11-23, 09:50 | Link #1090 |
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Could be, but I doubt it. As I understand the difference between levels is absolute. Even the worst level 3 is supposedly better than the strongest level 2 by quite a margin. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong but the stat level at which one levels up is considered secondary to the actual level. The moment he levels up however Bell will probably be as strong as an upper level 3 who leveled up at a regular pace even if all of Bell's stats are only at I 0 because of the bonus the stats of his previous levels grant him. |
2014-11-23, 10:10 | Link #1091 | |
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what we know is that previous level stat are "added as bonus" to actual level stat... how that bonus work.. we don't know... it may be an "hidden bonus" in the form an addition to the actual stat (so a strenght of 300 with a previous level strenght of 600 would result in an actual strenght of 300 + y where y is the hidden bonus derived from the previous level stat of 600) ... or it may be a stat growth booster... based on the level the stat reached in the previous level your new level stat will grow faster (like a basic form of single mind pursuit... that would be exagerated by his own skill)... or it may act as a "cap level increase" as proposed by the one above god... fact is we don't know how it works... only that leveling with higer stat will result in some kind of bonus... unfortunately we didn't have any newly leveled up characather to compare to the bell as he just leveled up... so it's hard to tell if the bonus is an actual "hidden stat" or a more complex kind of bonus :/ |
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2014-11-23, 10:37 | Link #1092 | |
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2014-11-23, 12:52 | Link #1093 |
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I know we've been told that the difference in Levels is an absolute difference in Status, but we don't really have any detail to how that works, or whether that still completely applies to Bell since he has surpassed the normal limits with his SS and SSS rankings in individual statuses. I think we can be at least sure that it means he's stronger than most Level 2s as a Level 2, and will be stronger than most Level 3s as a Level 3. I'd like to know for sure if Bell at the end of Level 2 progression is stronger than a newly advanced Level 3, but who knows if we'll get that. Regardless, the difference in skill (and Luck) is probably the deciding factor at that point.
I think the absolute difference in power might apply to Magic as well, which is strange, because I don't think it's even necessary to advance that all the way to D in order to Level Up, unlike the other 4 base Stats. Here's my various theories for the mechanism to represent stat upon leveling from 1 to 2. Keep in mind that the stats need to be in at least the 500 range to Level Up and that 999 was considered the maximum before Bell came along 1. All stats are doubled, to the minimum of 1000 (in the case of undeveloped Magic this is absolutely necessary) 2. Same as 1, but the higher the stat, the higher the multiplier, seems a bit redundant. 3. All stats get ~500 points added to them, again, special exception for Magic below D. Where things really get confusing is how to treat points in stats gained after leveling, Are they twice as potent as the last Level? More? Less? Should each point Ottar gains as a Level 7 be equal to 64(2^6) points gained by a level 1, even before considering his accumulated, now hidden stats? |
2014-11-23, 14:50 | Link #1098 |
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Something that's been bothering me, the Amazons are still humans, right? They seem a bit tougher than normal humans, but nothing too different. (Urga's massive weight made it a weapon pretty much exclusive for Amazons, which seems odd to me, since I would think Status-derived Strength would be much greater the difference in strength between races.)
So Welf used the other half of the Minotaur horn to make a Minotan Mk 2? Anyways, he's already putting his newly acquired Blacksmithing ability to use, so I'm curious as to how it's different. |
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