2011-06-22, 15:17 | Link #241 |
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Chapter 7, the final chapter is up: http://anonscanlations.blogspot.com/...-ch-7-end.html
Madoka manages to find Sayaka and Hitomi, and they all decide they will find Homura and try to help her. Homura wants to ask Oriko a question, but Oriko still doesn't let up, and continues to fight the girls, her soul gem at her limits. Oriko knows that Madoka will come here, so she's going to keep fighting and try to exhaust Homura's magic as well. Kyouko then throws a spear at Oriko, but as she dodged the spear, the spear starts heading towards Kirika's corpse. Another flashback of Oriko's past. Oriko's father hanged himself. Oriko didn't know what was the purpose of her life anymore, so she wished to learn the meaning of her life. Oriko bodyblocks Kirika, taking the spear, then Homura flash steps in front of Oriko with a gun pointed at her soulgem. Homura asks Oriko one more question before she shoots. "Why did you start this battle?" "To protect my world." As she dies, Oriko has one last vision. She sees that Homura will fail to protect this world, and is frustrated she couldn't do anything. Suddenly, she sees a big piece of shard (apparently that is part of Witch!Kirika) fall from the roof, and she channels the last of her magic to shoot the shard. The shard misses all the girls, kills Kyubey, and goes through a wall. The battle is over, Oriko and Kirika are dead. It looks like Homura finally found the end to her long journey. The witch barrier disappears, and just as Homura was about to tell everyone something, they hear a scream, and discover that Oriko shot Madoka with the shard, instantly killing her. Homura collapses from shock...and once again repeats the loop. The last few pages show Oriko and Kirika in whats presumably the afterlife. Despite saving the world, Oriko knows she killed a lot of people in the process, and is too overwhelmed by that burden. Kirika tells her she will share that burden with her, and says that they should go together. The end.
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2011-06-22, 20:50 | Link #242 | |
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OOOOOOOORIIIIIIKOOOOOOOOOO just cannot keep that sentence(from a certain person in SRW Z2) For that question i asked, i got a feeling it happened in timeline 3.5. In which total it has 6 timelines (3.5 is trying to say it is timeline 4 but timeline 4 is timeline 5 and timeline 5 is timeline 6) Last edited by Scarletknive; 2011-06-22 at 21:03. |
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2011-06-22, 21:16 | Link #245 |
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Maybe. It can be either 3.5 or 4.5. by far episode 10 of Madoka magica just teleport from 4 to 5.Maybe we might get an answer to this if this comes out as an OVA. So in the end, it never explained the existence of WalpurgisNacht.
In the nutshell, Oriko mission:success Homura's mission:fail Because of what kyubey said in episode 11,cant Homura get out of this loop?(minus off the last episode because the loop stopped) |
2011-06-23, 02:54 | Link #248 |
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Damn Oriko, S2 of Madoka Magica should be Oriko being the final boss, with Oriko being somewhat knowledgeable about the old system and would want it back for some fundamentalist reason.
Long story short: Oriko is a great final-boss character
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The witch is attacked by all the magical girls except Oriko. The witch attacks all the magical girls except Oriko. Mere target priority? Quote:
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Rest in peace, Oriko, you silly, machiavellian hero. Isn't it ironic how a human antagonist orchestrating serial murders in this universe evokes more compassion in people than a well-meaning cute alien or a hardly involved violinist? But it's true. Maybe because unlike the girls in that timeline, we readers know it wasn't going to end well for Madoka anyway. Or maybe because Oriko is a girl scarred and changed by her past as much as... well, as much as pretty much every other Puella Magi out there, it seems. For the positive side: - most of the main cast survive. - I can't help feeling proud of Sayaka. Fighting her way out of a critical situation seems to be her preferred MO regardless of contracting. If not for inability to overcome her inner crisis in thetimelines where she was involved, she'd have actually made a brilliant Puella Magi with time. - oh, and... Oriko killed Kyuubey. Ineffective but SO satisfying. Quote:
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Btw, regardless of the timeline's position and keeping to the number of timelines we were really shown, we might indeed want to mark the final timeline as TL7 and the Godoka anime timeline as TL6 (yeah, I tend to be a Captain Obvious sometimes ). In short, this is a memorable midquel and an interesting file in the Puella Magi Madoka Magica case. But it doesn't quench my thirst for a glimpse at the sequel. Not that I don't want other spin-offs/flashbacks/etc. Seriously, I hope Urobuchi will spend a bit more time and effort on this franchise, there's still a lot to tell.
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2011-06-23, 08:13 | Link #250 | |
is this so?
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If I remember correctly, in the anime Homura said something like "thousands would fall victim to her if she (Walpurgis Night) materializes even once". I think that shows that Homura is concerned about civilian lives at least. Or even if she only cared about Madoka, letting WN destroy the city could leave Madoka homeless or worse..
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2011-06-23, 08:20 | Link #251 | |
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2011-06-23, 11:12 | Link #254 |
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I'm rather disappointed, considering the three new girls had a lot of potential, yet with a 2-vol long manga, you can barely flesh them out.
Oriko was a very interesting character. While she's definitely portrayed as the antagonist, she's hardly villainous, since she is concerned about the fate of the world, and unlike Madoka who got a wish to fix the biggest issues, Oriko had to do it the hard way. So, I'm pleased with her and the other two. I'd really like if, somehow, Magica Quartet manages to give these 3 new girls more exposure. I think it'd be a huge waste if they simply go forgotten.
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There was no way else it vould have ended really. The only solution to the core problem here would be when Madoka finally rewrites the system in the final timeline. Killing Oriko and Kirika, what does that achieve other than another two more, tragic, wasted deaths? In the long run it would be meaningless as Kriemhild Gretchen would still have to be born in the end seeing Homura cannot possibly protect Madoka forever even if she did take down the Walpurgis.
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2011-06-23, 15:31 | Link #257 | |
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2011-06-23, 20:32 | Link #258 | |
is this so?
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But it's nice to see that there are characters in other timeline (besides Homura) who are aware of the truth behind Kyubey's magical girl system. If Oriko is really evil, before going after Madoka she could have used her power to get revenge on the people at her school who mocked her. In the end all she wanted was to protect her world.
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2011-06-24, 02:18 | Link #259 | |
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On the topic of Oriko itself....well, Madoka dying was inevitable. Actually, mission accomplished for Oriko. Despite Homura's best intentions Oriko knew the truth, that Madoka would be contracted and she would turn into Gretchen no matter what. Kyubey would find Madoka, it was just a matter of time. The question in my mind is Yuma. Did anyone else think it was odd that she was so underplayed? Kyubey practically salivated over her (until he caught wind of Madoka), and she's not only powerful but she snapped the other girls out of their shock/despair like it was nothing. Outside of that, the only other irregularity was Kirika. She now holds the record for "girl with the longest time between busted Soul Gem and turning into a Witch". Sorry Sayaka and Madoka. I guess it's now canon that a Soul Gem that has turned black doesn't mean immediate Witch, for some girls. Could be plot armor I guess. What I take from Oriko is that there exists three timelines that Homura never found: 1. A timeline where Madoka never contracts, ever, but doesn't die. 2. A timeline where she does, and doesn't die, become a Witch, or a Goddess. 3. A timeline where she does, becomes a Goddess, and returns. We've seen the other three variations now: 1. She never contracts, and dies anyway. 2. She contracts and dies or becomes a Witch. 3. She contracts, becomes a Goddess, and ceases to exist to any mortal but Homura. We've also never seen a timeline where bringing girls back from being a Witch was actually possible. So outside of various stories of Homura failing, such as this one, and slice of life alternatives, there's still plenty of story telling left in the Madoka universe, not including stuff not directly related such as Kazumi.
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Yuma is apparently an efficient cleric and a capable Puella Magi (although I've yet to figure out WTQB she fights with ). Her power may be explained by the amount of grief she carries, and we know this amount is high. I consider her speech in ch 6 as her main highlight in the manga. That's a Puella Magi to handle the truth for you. If only she was around in TL6, during Sayaka's arc...
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