2006-09-29, 11:05 | Link #21 |
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Even earlier than that. Sasuke first mentions Itachi when they are introducing themselves to Kakashi. Sasuke says his goal is to "kill a certain man"(Naruto believes he's talking about him) and Itachi's eyes are briefly shown. That makes Itachi the first main villain to be referenced in the entire series (besides the Kyuubi of course).
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2006-09-29, 11:08 | Link #22 | |
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2006-09-29, 12:10 | Link #23 | |
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2006-09-29, 12:45 | Link #24 |
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I think the illness was a consequence of all the crazy medical/other experimentation of Orochimaru and Kabuto. To become forcibly so strong there must be some negative effects on him. And now we see how Sakura says that Sasuke's speed and power seems extreme, there must be some forbidden/bad way it was achieved.
However Sasuke will be saved from the bad effects before he gets a similar illness. Orochimaru collapses, his new body rejects him, Sasori can never achive a perfect puppet body, Itachi maybe going blind, etc... I think it's a fundamental moral message from Kishimoto, which determines the laws of this manga: these people will never achieve their ultimate goals. On the other hand it's funny to see that Kabuto is too human, and with that he is quite weak between all those monsters. He seems to be like an evil scientist, doing all those experiments, but never risking his own health, he uses his test subjects: Oro, Kimimaro, Sasuke, and the thousands of unknown people. |
2006-09-29, 13:21 | Link #25 | |
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Kabuto was as Good as Kakashi, So his Sanin potential was just an overstatement. And BTW, were did I say I had dislikes for Kabuto Yes I don’t find him a interesting Character, but that does not mean I hate him...In fact Were Do I say I dislike a fictional Character. And As I told you, If we are going to talk about who was introduced first, Iruka is one of the most Important characters in the series. we are talking about Importance in the plot, not how strong he is, you need to see why you really disagree.
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2006-09-29, 14:02 | Link #26 | |
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2006-09-29, 14:09 | Link #27 | |
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2006-09-30, 14:16 | Link #30 | |
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Kabuto has not been A very Important character as of late, his last real important role was at the beggining of the Chunin exams, after this, he has always been in Oros Shadows. If Kishi decides to make him Very Imporatanti in the future thats another story, but those are just speculations and/or wishes. And I decided to Ignore the realtions you have mentioned, because those meetinng are irrelevant and does not indicate the level of importance in a Character. Looking back, Its really funny the reason why you think Kabuto is the most important Villain in the story: no villain has been around as long as kabuto.
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2006-09-30, 17:08 | Link #31 | |
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ano...what hell just happened?
did the subject get drop I went to bathroom for only min, where the hell did it go? EDIT: Quote:
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2006-10-01, 08:36 | Link #32 |
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Orochimaru went to Tsunade (no doubt after trying to get help from Kabuto with his arms) because he was inflicted with something that Kabuto wasn't specialized in. Even though Kabuto rivals Tsunade in their talents, they both focus on different things (actually if I remember correct, Tsunade was able to save Rock Lee from what she witness in her fight with Kabuto/Orochimaru) and we have seen other things that Kabuto can do which Tsunade can't do (Chakra Scalpels, healing from a distance and so forth). Then while not really a factor in itself, we have to consider their ages. Kabuto is a young teenager (although there are some theories floating about with him being much older) compare to a proclaimed legend who has decades of experience. He is easily a prodigy.
Now I guess it is obvious that Kimmi got his disease from his genetics or what not; but I am finding it hard to believe that Kabuto couldn't do anything because he had 'no info'. Not only did he and Orochimaru (who wanted the body more than anything except for Itachi) has the means of getting the information they want, Kabuto did manage to keep him alive and in good health (well bearing the fact that Kimmi was bed ridden) for a long time and when Kimmimaro left to go after Sasuke, he was -no where- close to dying. Now we all may disagree, but I am sticking with this. It is a plot device, just like Kabuto standing there and taking Rasengan, just like Sasori and Hidan playing the ass and so forth.
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2006-10-01, 11:47 | Link #33 | |
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But that was a long time ago, and since we have only learned one thing about him (possibly the only twist in his character's plot), that he was supposed to be a spy for akatsuki. He hasn't shown a lot of power, hes technique's aren't too impressive. And for god sakes people, he got beaten by naruto! He is nowhere near sannin potential. He beat tsunade by being a little weener and throwing blood at her. Kakashi states this guy could be better than him, but again they didnt fight, so you have to assume its because he outsmarted him. His character while fresh was fun, but now has grown very stale. Now he seems nothing more than a scheming underling of Oro, who is very loyal to him (i was hoping this wasn't true, but it is which is lame story wise), and seems to be great at setting up traps and plotting. This kind of character doesn't in any way, seem very important. If he died.. it wouldn't change a whole lot. |
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2006-10-08, 14:32 | Link #34 |
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The time orochimaru was testing on anko with the CS, CS was still in early development, at that time i dont think it was clearly finished. Then ORO was exiled from KONOHA, then he met Kimimaru. But during that period and 3-4 years he had spies in KONOHA workin for him, that mizuki guy whatever his name is that stole the hidden scroll, he also tested CS but it fuckd up on him as seen in the fillers. My assumption here is the time Oro gave Mizuki the CS theory, he mustve had used it also on Kimimaru. The new CS theory must have been redefined by ORO with the success of the other sound4 members and sasuke. So he used an earlier theory which fuckd up on kimimaru. Even the scientist that was helpin ORO was still tryin to finish the project as shown in the fillers. His bloodlimit mustve had a bad reaction to CS, or CS was still in its early stages not completed yet, being used on kimimaru which stuffd up. |
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- He has a taijutsu style that rivals Jyuuken in the sense that not only can't you block the attacks (you have to deflect or dodge), but that they will completely disable the body part that is hit in one blow (similiar to how Jyuuken works but on a stronger scale) - He has a regenerative jutsu that can help him survive attacks that could kill just about anyone. Contrary to belief, getting hit by a well powered Rasengen is no laughing matter. Everyone else who had shown such a jutsu in the way it works (Tsunade, Orochimaru, and certain Akatsuki members) are extremely powerful. - He has shown one of the best healing jutsus to date. Spoiler:
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Plus he was strong enough to kill an ANBU member (though they haven''t exactly proven themselves to be any good) and smart enough to outwit Kakashi and he did say something like you need 10 Anbu guys to stop me... so he's obviously no weakling. Quote:
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2006-10-23, 11:58 | Link #39 |
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Well, it had to happen eventually. -shrug- I didn't like Kimimaro much, personally--but then again, I usually hold a grudge against someone that tries to kill my precious Lee...
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