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Ultimately the Force is established as simply a binding energy that pervades all aspects of the universe. I say simply, but obviously that is a giant freaking energy source that appears to be limitless. So, why is it so hard to understand that its macguffin nature makes it entirely up to the writer’s interpretation? Even Lucas struggled to keep the Force consistent within his series, and he simply gave up when it came to the games and other EU media. Quote:
The only powers Rey seems to fall into more easily than we think she should are Force manipulation and Telekinesis, and of those two only Force manipulation is potentially problematic (something like TK is taught to 5 year olds after all, and Luke was able to figure it out by himself). Truthfully, I have no real answer for Force manipulation, which is why I hope future information can shed some light on this power (though, it could be argued that Kylo's mind raping abilities are related to Force manipulation, and since she was able to instinctively hold out against those attacks, she might have gleaned some info as to how to project her own attacks). Quote:
Additionally, he is clearly painted as being untrained, or at least too volatile to be at his best at any given moment. Hell, his very light saber is a physical metaphor of the emotional turmoil that he is struggling with, and turmoil has always been shown to weaken a Force user (clear hearts and clear minds = badass Force user). No, but fiction does. This is a common trope within quite a bit of fantasy fiction that the world goes to shit in very similar ways every few decades, more often than not because some underlying force is still at work. Arguably, this is even the pinnacle of the meta-narrative that Lucas has presented us with the concept of the Force – a great power which exists in balance and will force the world to return to said balance when the scales are tipped too far. (I actually read an interesting theory somewhere that Luke deliberately removes himself from the action simply because he was beginning to grasp this meta-narrative as contrived by the Force.) Quote:
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In other words, using the physical limitations as provided by the lack of relevant technology in the 70s should not be the basis line for what the Force can and cannot do. Quote:
That being said, I do not truly believe it was a “power-up” beyond her realization that she could potentially use the Force, which was then influenced by the Force being used directly against her (by Kylo). Quote:
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LOL, since when is wielding a sword like a bo-staff something to complain about? She doesn’t know how to use a sword, so she uses it like she would a staff. There is nothing mystifying or reality shaking about this. As for everyone “loving” her, well that is partially true. There are several supposedly emotional moments were Rey receives unnecessary attention (most notably Leia consoling her). But, beyond those few moments, by and large she is treated about the same as Luke was by those around him. Last edited by james0246; 2016-01-14 at 01:11. |
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2016-01-14, 01:36 | Link #542 | |
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Like I said, very Guardian of the Galaxy.
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2016-01-14, 05:47 | Link #543 |
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I'll answer your questions like this, James.
This gent illustrates what is wrong with this film very well. He covers nearly every major non-political point that is wrong with this movie's script. Although I disagree with him about the music, and visuals, but even then, his points do have merit to a degree.
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2016-01-15, 21:42 | Link #544 | ||
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There's a reason why things like Who's on first? are still hilarious in 2015 no matter how old they get and how much society changes. You mean the same Guardians of the Galaxy that is a partial satire of Star Wars and, therefore, by necessity funny? Quote:
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2016-01-16, 05:05 | Link #547 |
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3d animated series made by Lucasfilm after they were acquired by Disney that follows up their earlier Clone Wars series that was on Cartoon Network. Much of the same people are working on Rebels as worked on Clone Wars. The one major difference is of course the Lucas isn't consulting the team directly anymore since he left Lucasfilm.
Rebels starts 4 years before A New Hope following the crew of a light freighter. Much like one would do with they were in a roleplaying game in terms of character setup. You have a pilot, a heavy, a weapons expert, a older Jedi type that wasn't fully trained, you have a kid that is Force Sensitive, and you have a droid. It follows these six characters as on a journey that seems to be heading towards the formation of the Alliance to Restore the Republic (usually known as the Rebel Alliance). It is progressively getting more serious in terms of storylines, much like Clone Wars did. Some characters and incidents form the Clone Wars have carried on into Rebels. But being much closer in time to the Original Trilogy, the artists and story writers are now getting to go into what they grew up on in the 1970s and 1980s. They are using Ralph McQuarrie's artwork as the style choice for this show. In terms of known characters from the OT, we've seen R2-D2, C-3PO, Bail Organa, Lando, heard Yoda, Obi-wan, and the Emperor, and seen Darth Vader. Are soon to see Leia (next week). Rebels seems to be dipping into the EU a bit for designs and some inspirations since Lucasfilm has all that stuff. Some stuff in the trailer is clearly Knights of the Old Republic inspired. Other things, like some of the older Kenner toys have shown up modified to look functional in universe. Also some clear references to the old Star Wars roleplaying game by West End Games are in there as well. The new trailer is also hinting at stuff we saw in The Force Awakens. The cross-guard lightsaber (in green this time) being the most obvious one.
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2016-01-16, 06:12 | Link #548 | ||
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2016-01-16, 11:45 | Link #549 | |
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I saw Ahsoka in that and wondered what the heck it was. I've seen some of the Clone Wars on CN, but I have not seen any of this new show. If Disney is doing it, I'm not sure I want to see it.
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2016-01-16, 18:33 | Link #550 |
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Tano is going to die, doesn't she?
Well, not the tread to talk this about but since it is the only SW thread... I just want to see a Jedi curbstomping a team of Sith(Knights of Ren) I mean why is it that always the Jedi that get curbstomped by the dark side? I want to see it happening be it Luke or the multitalented Rei. |
2016-01-18, 11:42 | Link #552 |
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I am very convinced by now that Rey isn't a Skywalker, but just someone that through returning Anakins lightsaber to it's rightful owner finds her destiny and possibly about her past and what happened to her real family.
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2016-01-19, 06:23 | Link #557 |
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Has that ever been done? I don't think this makes any sense in the Star Wars mythology/metaphysics. And it just seems too convoluted and would harm Rey as a character. She needs to be her own person, not the continuation of a different existing one.
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2016-01-19, 06:59 | Link #558 |
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If she doesn't remember who she truly is...the midichlorians will show her the way!
...but no, I would much rather have something new take place instead of bringing back the dead. Like ^ said, it would practically kill Rey as a character and possibly revive all the Anakin teen angst along with it! |
2016-01-19, 10:14 | Link #560 |
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In my eyes, they already went with something worse: a petulant child-ish antagonist called Ben Ren . As far as SW7 goes, that bitch seems even whinier and wimpier compared to Hayden Vader. I swear, his backstory arc which will probably be told in the upcoming movies better make up for the bad first impression he gave me and many other people who watched the movie.
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