2018-07-15, 19:44 | Link #1881 | |
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What happened in the last decade, was that American Fascists have finally READ UP what it means to be a fascist, and only in the last few years understood that it aligns with their values. They were offended being called such early on, because they thought being called a fascist means being called a German or a Communist. But now they realised being Fascist is exactly what they themselves support, and thus they became what they always were. They were just so stupid and ignorant, that they didn't know what banner to march under until now.
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2018-07-16, 01:44 | Link #1883 | |
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In the end, if anyone want to claim that there are no American Fascists, that the only fascists are communists, then that is on them. What it is that you disagree with, anyway? Which part? Also, interesting that you say i am wrong and want me to provide evidence. I am not sure evidence is what you really would have requested, if you truly disagree. You would have gave counter arguments.
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2018-07-16, 03:13 | Link #1884 |
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For starters you can explain where your information comes from and how you pieced it together to arrive at your conclusion. Leave out the part about American fascists existing, nobody disagrees with you on that.
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2018-07-16, 12:48 | Link #1885 |
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As a child growing up in the fifties and sixties, fascism to me was connected with Mussolini. Communists were Communists, and Nazis were Nazis. Somehow the Japanese weren't classified as "fascists" in those early days after the end of World War II. Perhaps it had something to do with the portrayal of Hirohito as the leader of Japan rather than more obviously militaristic figures like Hitler and Mussolini.
Communist governments like the Soviet Union and the Warsaw Pact countries were often identified as "totalitarian" rather than "fascist." Fascism assumes the existence of a private sector, just one that is largely manipulated by and indebted to the political regime. So in my upbringing "fascism" had more to do with the little guy who made the trains run on time in Italy. Nazi Germany was its own separate brand of evil. I recall more focus in popular media on the Japanese at ground level, fighting as if crazed on Iwo-Jima or dive-bombing American vessels in kamikaze operations. Hirohito and, more importantly, the Japanese General Staff were misty figures compared to Hitler, Stalin, Mao and, another rung down, Mussolini.
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2018-07-16, 19:27 | Link #1887 |
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Wow and we are back again and it's seens which the republicians or love to play dumbass or childshi or don't really know what they want.
Because we have again trump licking putin feets/ass and now everyone is angry even the republicians as if trump never did it before, basically trump do little to none efforts to hidden which he have a hidden agenda with russia and putin, it's really fun how trump and putin had read the same "text" to talk about how "putin" is innocent and russia is the tha best country ever and USA must bow down before putin. Well changing a little, at first i was more like to only see trump side as the wrong side, but after see also the problem with the "extreme left" and SJW destroying the world and see the sweden country being "conquered" by the "immigrants thanks to they "crap all female govern who is happy in see they womans and even males being raped and attacked and had they houses raided by crazy peoples every day and the country almost become a "new war zone" due to "SJW and PR, i'm now start to side a little with trump about "immigrants" and freedom" things are goind really crazy in western due to all the crap happening and while i'm still see trump as a asshole and scumbass somehow at last the "protect country from barbarians" start to look "reasonable" when you look to others countries where SJW are "winning and turning that countries in crazy places. Basically western is becoming a place of 2 "extreme sides" or extremists left with crazy SJW agenda with crazy liberals which alows rapists and terrorist free walk or go extremist right side full of racists, sexists and xenophobic peoples, having a "middle ground or not being extremists" is becoming almost impossible or the peoples which are "normal" and neither one or other side are being held hostage by the 2 sides.
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2018-07-16, 19:48 | Link #1888 |
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I would think the SJW ideals would work (Star Trek-ish future idealism), if the people they were letting into their countries also held those views or could at least maintain tolerance of all the populations. But they are letting in extremists for their mother cultures, which instead of trying to adapt like people have been doing for generations, they are instead seeming carving out their own new territories and declaring their own laws are in place, which is usually considered illegal and borderline rebellion two centuries ago (see Texas Republic vs Mexico for an example of the incoming population not conforming and eventually fighting a war of rebellion/independence).
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2018-07-16, 20:24 | Link #1889 | |
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There is no both sides in this One side is clearly more murderous and has killed people One side clearly has literal Nazis winning office positions One side clearly thinks more industry deregulation is a good thing One side is clearly trying to take more and more worker benefits and If the GOP wants to reduce victimization of women, do something about this mass shooting/murder problems. It's almost always about a dude being upset about a girl also stop supporting candidates who are ephebophiles. That's just a pedophilia mutant cousin Last edited by Key Board; 2018-07-16 at 20:34. |
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2018-07-16, 21:03 | Link #1890 | |
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We are getting in a point where a new problem is rising which is a sort of "beautyphobi, where now being "sexy or beautiful is a sin and that person must be blamed or hated or being straight(both male and female) is also a sin and you must "be bi or gay" otherwise you are a monster. I really can't see the idea of "equality in both sides when both sides doing exactly the same thing. Well about sweden i'm also read alot about the government "making fake reports" to hidden the issues https://www.spectator.co.uk/2018/02/...liticians-act/ https://www.politico.eu/article/swed...law-and-order/ i really think it's not "so simple like that and total fake they having issues with too peoples come to they countries in the way it's come out of control both sides are pretty ugly the only difference is which so far only one side killed direct peoples while the other only "attacked" (if you don't count many of the BLM raid on places). As i told while i do hate trump because he is represent many of the worst human traits, he still don't have all of them and some of that "crap traits" which he don't have and even some which he do have are appearing on the other side. But the worst so far from him is being a traitor of USA a total putin ass licker and he still have peoples "defending him even after that https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKBN1K601D really why we still have peoples believing which he don't get help from russia after how much efforts trump keep doing in show how much he is a puting fangirl, i can bet which if you ripe is cloth you can find a under t-shirt with a I LOVE (big putin picture) S2
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2018-07-16, 21:05 | Link #1891 | |
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2018-07-16, 22:35 | Link #1893 | |
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No one talking of Trump openly whoring himself to Putin in front of all television cameras out there? All media out there, including Fox News, called Trump's display as shameful of a POTUS who faces a Soviet/Russian leader.
Former CIA director John Brennan, who usually carefully chooses his words, didn't mince them today. Quote:
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That is why i feel the left is also crazy in the same way of right and i'm talking about both "extremists" where they are basically trying to "rule" what peoples can do or not by force" taking aways the "freedom" in both sides. Im' not saying which the extremists right are "noble" or pure" but they are not the "only evil in the wordl" both sides are pretty evil. And i agree in look for a "third or fourth side, but the problem is as i told it's become "hard to come as a third or fourth" power, cuz if you not on one of the extreme sides you be called as a traitor as a monster and bla bla bla by both sides, if you not enlisted to one side you will be considered automatically a enemie from the other side like if i'm not a left then the left will call me a right or a "coward" and things like that the same goes for the other side if you not on the right you will be mocked and attacked as if you are left ot a coward, it's aways ending in a lose-lose situation. Quote:
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2018-07-17, 07:16 | Link #1896 |
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Today I learned that feminism is a problem that can start nuclear wars. What on earth am I reading. You do have a point that people are getting more and more afraid of things they don't understand but then you bring up some ridiculous examples of beautyphobia (nobody cares) or feminism (which is not a left or right topic).
Here's some advice: If you don't want to be extremist left or extremist right, then just don't. By being afraid you only give them a platform. Be strong and tell them to fuck off, you're perfectly fine with being a moderate. Russia meddled in the US election, that's a fact. The DOJ just prior to the meeting came forward presenting new evidence against Russia but Trump basically said that he trusts Putin's word more than his own intelligence agencies. That's so disgraceful even Fox called him out on that. |
2018-07-17, 08:11 | Link #1897 | |
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Whether Trump actually believes Putin over US intelligence is certainly an issue, but it's complicated. Firstly Trump sees (or at least used to see) the agencies as instruments of the previous administration who are out to get him, so he has some reasons to not trust them. Secondly, he's petty and hates the media. So when giving the honest answer to a journalist would mean admitting he was wrong before (about Russian hacking), Trump will double down if only out of pride. I think Trump answered the way he did for those reasons. Not because he conspires with Putin. (I think he is ambivalent about Putin.) So, I'm not particularly concerned about this either.
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2018-07-17, 11:06 | Link #1898 |
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Although the meeting with Putin was a total blunder for Trump it will have very little impact (if any) among his supporters. The reason is simple; his hard-line stand on immigration is the sole reason why he is so favored by many in the country. As long as he carries out his promises on immigration nothing else will sway the opinions of his base. Of course, being a ONE trick pony makes for a particularly weak president.
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2018-07-17, 13:48 | Link #1899 |
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It seems Trump somehow struck a nerve with the military industrial complex. This is the second time that they reacted to Trump. You can see that due to everyone in the media, including the conservatives, attacking him, but Rand Paul and Ron Paul not doing so.
The first time the military industrial complex interfered was back when Trump sent a missile into a Syrian military base after all the bioweapon-use accusations against Assad. The reactions back then were the opposite, i.e. ALL the media, including uncharacteristically, the left-wing media as well, praised him like he was a saint. Back then Rand Paul and Ron Paul were very dissatisfied. In other words, the military industrial complex were very pleased with Trump back then. The situation right now is the exact opposite. Moments like these show that even the "Deep State" and influential people like George Soros, the Koch Brothers, big oil, etc. are not as significant compared to the military industrial complex.
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