2014-10-12, 22:38 | Link #3761 |
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You want to know what the difference between Alibaba and Hakuryuu?
Alibaba let his right to the throne go for the sake of Balbaad. Hakuryuu is threatening to tear Kou apart to secure the throne for himself. Hakuryuu does not have altruistic reasons for what he's doing. He considers the throne to be his by right and he's willing to do anything to get it. Alibaba's interest in Balbaad has never been about his self. Even when he wanted to return, it was because he felt obligated to do something for his country. All things considered, his sister was practically queen in waiting (seriously, En has been courting her for more than a decade and there's a reason why she wasn't married off like the rest of Kou's princesses). Hakuryuu's nieces and nephews would inherit the future, but all he can think about is how he was robbed and didn't fight for what he thinks should have been his. He's concerned about avenging his brothers' and stepping up so that they didn't die for nothing. |
2014-10-12, 23:33 | Link #3762 | |
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2014-10-13, 00:15 | Link #3763 | |||||
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well, "sasuke" is not a new invention, he is part of a specific class of character and .. ..even though he and Hakuryuu have some similarities, Hakuryuu have his own development. mm i am hoping for a tactical battle..not just a "laser" fight Quote:
and..is not like alibaba have a real problem in his hand...even the baldadd plot is a little inconsistent (idealisms) Quote:
mmm there are more things here...but i agree in any case. Quote:
...and, unless a member of the kou empire family choose to start a democracy...everybody is here for their own desires (and, altruism is for allibaba and not for a proper king) Quote:
there isn't another way to help Balbaad...i can see a little of pride hidden behind his speech Quote:
and i doubt that everything is gonna be fixed with hakoui marriage(which is probably the next move of kouen-marriage and a son) you can add the problem of the possible participation of kouen/or his family in "rebellion" that killed he first emperor (or the fact that kouen dad took Hakuryuu place as the ruler, and married his mother to obtain the throne ) so , no...there is not such a thing as a future here, till one of the side is dead or in the exile. ___________- what bother me a little is the fact that we aren't going to see a good rise to the power (Hakuryuu )...without the help of some djinns
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2014-10-13, 00:27 | Link #3764 | |
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To really mess with you, he is probably around 16 and she's around 11, give or take a year or so. And they're cousins. Obviously his intentions aren't likely to be romantic at this time, but with Kouen it's kind of hard to tell what he's thinking when he does or says something. The impression I took from the picture is that he's meeting her of his own accord and not because he was told to. He caught her alone with Hakuryuu and introduced himself in a formal manner in private. You also have to consider that Hakuei has been unmarried for more than a decade and Kou is a country that has a strong belief in blood-ties. Being the first princess might grant special rights and considerations when choosing a spouse for her, but Kougyokou didn't seem to think it was fair that she was being married off in Balbaad while Hakuei remained single. There's really just a lot to gain for Kou if he does marry her. The gulf between the two branches of the royal family would be bridged. Hakuei holds him in high regard and he probably likes her. It's kind of hard to tell with him. They're both king vessels, both highly ranked in Kou's military and society. And wind and fire are complimentary elements. |
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Compared to now with the flagrant murder of his own mother and the usurpation of the throne for himself, Hakuryuu has threatened the family bonds that hold the Kou Empire together. Even if he were otherwise a good king and ruler (he is very likely incapable of being this), his becoming king would threaten the long term survival of Kou. A short history of back stabbing and treachery is all that awaits them. |
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2014-10-13, 10:04 | Link #3766 |
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Can't say I find fault in Hakuryuu's actions.
Kou is an evil empire and he is the legitimate successor. Sure, in order to avoid a war Alibaba was willing to let go of Balbadd. That's admirable in its own way. However, fighting for what is right is not really, well, wrong. |
2014-10-13, 10:09 | Link #3767 |
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You gotta remember that while a certain someone was letting Al thamen free to do what they wanted for their own advantage, Hakuryuu took measures to make sure they obey the empire and at the moment he has yet to do anything wrong. He hasnt yet hurt the citizien or innocent people.
If En wanted to use al thamen to do what he wanted he should have at least put a leash on them. Sincerly if i were Hakuryuu at this point i'd ally with Sinbad in exchange for all al thamen's death(possibly using them as fodder against En army) . |
2014-10-13, 10:32 | Link #3768 | |
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His claim was over-ruled for relatively good reasons. He was too young. He had suffered a very traumatic experience. There was a good chance that he was going to die. He was unfit to rule and that remains the case. Which brings us to the next point; there is no reason to believe he would actually do a better job than En. Hakuryuu's father is the one that started the Kou Empire's path of conquest. Hakuryuu himself has not expressed any desire to do anything different. He's also using Al-Thamen to achieve his goals. If you had to choose between En and Hakuryuu, who would you pick? I'll tell you what; En has not murdered his own mother and instigated a coup. He has not fallen into depravity. He is older. He is wiser. He's done considerably more for the Kou Empire than Hakuryuu has. Most if not all of Kou's King Vessels will support him. |
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2014-10-13, 10:33 | Link #3769 |
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For what's right? He's fighting for selfish reasons. He wanted Gyokuen dead because he hates her (which is understandable, but selfish nonetheless), and wants to be king just because he believes he has the right, not because it's the best for the people of Kou. He's not thinking about his people at all; he just thinks about himself.
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2014-10-13, 11:00 | Link #3771 | ||
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I already told you that since En was okay with using Al-Thamen, I can't say I particularly favor him. Quote:
The alternative is... letting the evil organization stay in control of the Empire. So yeah... |
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2014-10-13, 11:12 | Link #3772 | ||
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2014-10-13, 11:19 | Link #3773 | |
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Difference is, he actually has them under mind control and (supposedly) killed their leader.
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She stole the title right in front of Kouen; so that's a lot of power for no power. Last edited by Redhazard; 2014-10-13 at 11:33. |
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2014-10-13, 11:32 | Link #3774 |
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I'm impressed that Hakuryuu conquered two dungeons. But yeah, whilst he did kill his mother and risks causing a civil war, I can't say that Hakuryuu wasn't in his right. Succession or not, it's not weird to think of En's lot as a bunch of usurpers. If anything I kind of like Hakuryuu showing determination not through speeches about honey and rainbows but actually doing something whilst being willing to deal eith the worst consequences. Teenage angst can get pretty annoying when it's overused.
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2014-10-13, 12:14 | Link #3775 |
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guys, Hakuryuu is smart and has al thamen under complete control (Until shown otherwise)
Kou used al thamen to ruin many countries and has no leash on them letting them do what they want for his advantage . No discussion there, i'd choose Hakuryuu without hesitation. You can't blame Hakuryuu for using Al thamen, i repeat HE has them on a tight leash with mindcontrol KOU was happy to let them do whatever they wanted bringing civil wars etc etc in other countries. IF kou wants to blame someone he should have blamed himself, even during the meeting after he learned their true intentions he had no intention on letting them go. |
2014-10-13, 13:36 | Link #3777 | |
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So, yes, maybe Hakuryu will cause a civil war that will splinter the Kou empire. But as far as I'm concerned, that's better than letting Gyoukuen or even En in control. That, and there's Judar to worry about, too. For much the same reasons. |
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2014-10-13, 14:07 | Link #3778 |
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I wonder what happens to a Djinn once they die? I would take it they go back to the rukh or go back to Hugo and then re-enter the world again.
As for the new Sinbad chapter 37. Looks like Drakon's wife is a music user. Still I would have liked to see each of the Metal vessels adventures into their dungeon that they went into. Plus there really should have been another chapter before that chapter as c37 made it look like it skipped stuff. |
2014-10-13, 16:41 | Link #3779 | |
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Hakuryuu will end up destroying the world if not stopped. Hate is like that. Nothing positive can come out of it.
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2014-10-13, 16:47 | Link #3780 | |
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Hakuryu's doing the right things (mixed with some wrong too...) for arguably bad reasons. (Though I'd say "Gyokuen is thoroughly, irredeemably evil" is a good reason to remove her, no matter how personal it gets.) |
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