(L) Shokugeki no Soma [Manga]

[MAX_COLA_POWER!]

Originally Posted by Xero8420

So you think the Elite 10 is the problem?

Six of them voted Azami in, becoming the first seat has turned out to be more a pain in the ass than a blessing for all 3 revealed generations, and safe to say that in majority if you don't have an ego as huge as your lack for wanting to learn anything new and sympathy for your juniors outside of Satoshi/Tousuke/maybe Terunori (the guy just wants his seat back so even though he was an ally his reasoning was just a tad selfish), I would say Rindou too but her voting for Azami out of lulz turning into more out of fear still makes me 50/50, I'll stay with just wanting to constantly honing my craft by learning as much as I can from others thanks. Not to mention, more paperwork than an office supply store aisle. Not to mention that if the Elite Ten system is disbanded, there's a higher chance we can avoid the constant need to rank characters in ability (it'll never happen since power leveling and shipping are the 2 major topics in a series forum when the main material itself has become stale and boring).

[dragon1412]

Originally Posted by Xero8420

So you think the Elite 10 is the problem?

It is, people call it since ages, cultivate them is fine, but let them control the board of directors >>> bad calling right there. It plainly show when how Azami easily talk Eishii into this whole things. The power is with E10, who is too young and easily swayed, giving them money and privilege is 1 things, authority is another thing altogether.

[NAJ P. Jackson]

Originally Posted by Xero8420

So you think the Elite 10 is the problem?

Students having the power to depose the head honcho of the school if they will it? Ah yeah it's clear that the power of the Elite 10 system can be abused by nefarious characters.

[Sixth]

Originally Posted by dragon1412

Not really, Souma accomplished what he can partly due to Erina as a kind of marker, determined is the food cooked enough is part of skill and trial involved, Souma skip all that with Erina. So if we are to be fair, it's either SOuma cook alone or Erina take turn helping every single one, and the result is likely that Souma is below them

Originally Posted by Ka-el

dragon1412 already replied about the second point so I’ll try again to explain the first one.
I didn’t say that Erina would have won if Soma made a terrible dish. I mean that to be able to stand up to Eishi’s dish Soma needed Erina tips about every single thing he has done, something that he would have never been able to do without her help. Right now his skills aren’t enough to face Eishi on his own. Erina, however, created a dish that surpass Soma’s (which thanks to her help was on the same level of Eishi’s) so she already has the skills to make a dish superior to Eishi’s on her own (here Soma helped her just because of the time, he did’t prepared anything that Erina couldn’t on her own for her dish with the right amount of time).

You guys aren't giving Soma's enough credits. Why must you guys assumed that Soma can only cook the Dino Meat with Erina's help and not because Soma chose to cook the Dino Meat because he has Erina? It was clear that he has decided to cook something different than usual because his entire plan is revolving around Erina as his tool. If there is no Erina or he doesn't want to use Erina, he would have chosen a different approach or strategy for this match.

In the end, Dino meat is Soma's idea alone and Erina is just a tool like those noodle maker or kitchen knife for him.

[Ka-el]

Originally Posted by Sixth

You guys aren't giving Soma's enough credits. Why must you guys assumed that Soma can only cook the Dino Meat with Erina's help and not because Soma chose to cook the Dino Meat because he has Erina? It was clear that he has decided to cook something different than usual because his entire plan is revolving around Erina as his tool. If there is no Erina or he doesn't want to use Erina, he would have chosen a different approach or strategy for this match.

In the end, Dino meat is Soma's idea alone and Erina is just a tool like those noodle maker or kitchen knife for him.

OMG... it's truly useless. So you think that the day after he used everything he got from the moment he was born to the last shokugeki he had to defeat the former 5th seat, Soma is improved enough to stand against Eishi and/or Rindo on his own?

Come on, there is a limit to power up and even to fan imaginations. Soma could have never created that dish without Erina and he even said it himself that he couldn't before because he didn't have her (that's why he didn't prepare it in his first match against Eishi). He used Erina to do practically everything. He imagined the dish, but Erina practically corrected him all the way through. Everytime she corrected him when he questioned her in his cooking, he was making mistakes that he couldn't see on his own and that would have lead to a failure (since he was combining to dishes the slightest mistake would have destroyed the balance of the final dish)

Soma chose to use Erina exactly because he got that he could have never been able to realize a dish that could being on the same level of the top 2 on his own. That's the whole point.

[Sixth]

Originally Posted by Ka-el

OMG... it's truly useless. So you think that the day after he used everything he got from the moment he was born to the last shokugeki he had to defeat the former 5th seat, Soma is improved enough to stand against Eishi and/or Rindo on his own?

Come on, there is a limit to power up and even to fan imaginations. Soma could have never created that dish without Erina and he even said it himself that he couldn't before because he didn't have her (that's why he didn't prepare it in his first match against Eishi). He used Erina to do practically everything. He imagined the dish, but Erina practically corrected him all the way through. Everytime she corrected him when he questioned her in his cooking, he was making mistakes that he couldn't see on his own and that would have lead to a failure (since he was combining to dishes the slightest mistake would have destroyed the balance of the final dish)

Soma chose to use Erina exactly because he got that he could have never been able to realize a dish that could being on the same level of the top 2 on his own. That's the whole point.

You are starting acting like those mob characters of SnS who always underestimating Soma's potentials. If you can accept Erina's ridiculous power up, I can't see why you can do the same for Soma. Do you seriously think that Soma will proceed with the Dino Meat if he doesn't have Erina? I am pretty sure that everyone agreed that Erina is stronger than Soma at this point, but to discrediting Soma to the point that he should let Isshiki and Megishima should get the higher seat than him? That is a nonsense.

Also, you should stop rationalized the main character's growth. They get stronger when the plot demands.

[Homura7]

It's Saturday and the chapter is still not out. Fuck this shit.

[NAJ P. Jackson]

Originally Posted by Knighto

It's Saturday and the chapter is still not out. Fuck this shit.

It's already Sunday over here. It'll probably out later today.

Edit: Translators are probably still dazed and drooling over Rindou's foodgasm.

[DragonOsman]

Originally Posted by Ka-el

OMG... it's truly useless. So you think that the day after he used everything he got from the moment he was born to the last shokugeki he had to defeat the former 5th seat, Soma is improved enough to stand against Eishi and/or Rindo on his own?

Come on, there is a limit to power up and even to fan imaginations. Soma could have never created that dish without Erina and he even said it himself that he couldn't before because he didn't have her (that's why he didn't prepare it in his first match against Eishi). He used Erina to do practically everything. He imagined the dish, but Erina practically corrected him all the way through. Everytime she corrected him when he questioned her in his cooking, he was making mistakes that he couldn't see on his own and that would have lead to a failure (since he was combining to dishes the slightest mistake would have destroyed the balance of the final dish)

Soma chose to use Erina exactly because he got that he could have never been able to realize a dish that could being on the same level of the top 2 on his own. That's the whole point.

Exactly.

No one's saying that Souma couldn't think of the idea to make that dish without Erina. They're saying (and I completely agree here) that without her help, he wouldn't have been able to make it as good. I mean come on, Sixth, did you miss the part where he made Erina taste the dish and ask her how it was or if he could make it better at every turn, with her also pointing out mistakes he'd made that he couldn't have spotted on his own (he couldn't have spotted them on his own)?

But that dish represents Souma's specialty so I hope he'll be able to create it or something else that uses the same principles on his own in time.

@Knighto: The chapter itself is out. Just wait for scanlations now.

[ImperialFlameGod8190]

The chapter is out and scanlated and man this was brilliant on so many levels. Even i can't criticize this chapter woo boy what a trip

[MAX_COLA_POWER!]

Originally Posted by ImperialFlameGod8190

The chapter is out and scanlated and man this was brilliant on so many levels. Even i can't criticize this chapter woo boy what a trip

Wow, 2 threads with no critiques? You feeling alright Imperial?^^;;

[LeftSeven]

right, giving erina's turn by mimicking soma's style to give a hard blow to azami is the best move. plus, reverse bursting that azami has will lock him up from his hypocritism.

mm..so i guess speciality is a highest-form grade dish that chef could make with their own style.

that oyakodon is the first speciality which erina ever made.

[James Rye]

That "Oyakodon." panel and the part where she mocked her father about how amazing he is to be able to judge her dish without tasting it was so Souma-like. She really got "the worst" of him in her. Just what she needed to cook freely and with joy. XD

[Blueknight78]

LoL, prepare yourself for the "foodgasmaggedon", the whole build or even venue or city or even country will be "naked to butt!!!!!", erina dish power level will be over 9000!!!!!!.

The next chapter will be the manga ginners book world record of naked/underwear peoples in a manga at same time!!!!

[Homura7]

Chapter 2

Soma: But this dish is about to show its true form!

I don't have any need to tell you to whom he did say that

[charasu]

Dont tell me that azami will react as tsundere just like erina reacting souma oyakodon in the first time :v

[James Rye]

Originally Posted by Knighto

Chapter 2

Soma: But this dish is about to show its true form!

I don't have any need to tell you to whom he did say that

I can already see Souma screaming "You stole another thing from me" and Erina will be all "No, I made it better" smug on him while Azami is dying inside because he really wants to dig in the dish after it transformed but his pride won't let him do so. XD

[Kanon]

Erina's smile is so bright I can't even look at it!

This chapter really was pretty much perfect, to the point the long awaited naked Rindou simply ended up being the cherry on top rather than the main event. Erina might as well call herself Yukihira from now on, she's acting just like Souma. It's only a matter of time until she marries him anyway.

[MAX_COLA_POWER!]

I guess we can all thank Jou for his powers of foreshadowing in the first chapter huh?^^;;

[Homura7]

Originally Posted by MAX_COLA_POWER!

I guess we can all thank Jou for his powers of foreshadowing in the first chapter huh?^^;;

The best part is that Soma is uknowingly doing exactly like he wanted him to.