High School DxD Light Novel - Character Speculation/Theories: Issei's Peerage

[TommyG]

I had an Idea for a knight or pawn from Hindu mythology, it's my understanding that in the Hindu religion there are denominations which focus on certain gods as the supreme beings one of which is called shaivism. The character would be a follower of that sect and more specifically the goddess of the moon and spirituality, Anumati. In DxD different factions have different magic so she would use Hindu magic based on lunar power. As a weapon she would use Gandiva, a bow from Hindu mythology that had 2 inexhaustible quivers and a bow with 100 strings. The power of the bow would be based on the compatibility of the user, the more compatible the more strings from which she can fire a barrage of lunar arrows upon the opponent.

[AzazelDxD]

Originally Posted by Ka-el

If we talk about some ideas that of course will never be realised in the novel, then I have some too.

Rook: the result of an experiment of Loki, realised mixing the genes of Bergelmir (frost giant), Surtr (fire giant) and Ymir (the first giant) in the body of a newborn human girl. To balance the amount of power injected into that girl Loki used his magic and forbidden spells, the purpose was the creation of a being that on his its could have caused Ragnarok. Mixing the colossal strenght of the first giant with the fire and ice, Loki would have created the ultimate weapon. And the fact of being human would have killed her in the moment her power became too great, granting Loki that she would have not been able to survive long enough to turn against him. Her body should have exploded so badly to ice the oceans and burning down the earth. Turning her into a devil and canalize her power though devil magic and, with the proper training, touki, could save her life. As Issei, she has to control opposite powers inside of her and find a way to balance them. Her physical strenght is extreme, and she can generate fire, ice and water which, once she will be able to master their full potential, could destroy the world. Sairaorg thinks that her full potential could put her on the same league or even above Regulus Nemea.

Knight: A european swordswoman of celtic origin with a SG called "Silver King" or "Silver Arm of Túatha Dé Danann". It's a SG which cover with silver the right arm (from the shoulder to the fingers of the hand) the owner. It grants the power to multiply the sharpness of the blade the right hand holds by 10 times. But when it's combined with the legendary sword Claíomh Solais, the conscience of the (dead) celtic god Nuada awakens and its real power is shown, evolving the SG giving it a power so great to be classified as a Longinus, since with the sword of the god himself, the sharpness is amplified by over 100 times and can cut everything in its way, even gods' soul with the Balance Breaker, which cover the whole body with transparent silver which turns the body into a sword itself (not physically, just the power), able to cut everything that tries to hit it, magic, weapons, body parts and even curses. The only way to stop the cuts, even the flying ones, is to catch them by the sides with an incredible amount of strenght. There are, however, weapons able, if properly used and with enough power, to hold on against its power: Caliburn and Gramr.

Pawn (3): The daughter of a half dwarf and half dark elf man and a human woman, so a dwarf-elf-human which gave her the height and appearance of a human woman, but the ability and magic of dwarves and dark-elves in creating and enhancing incredible weapons and objects. Since her power is supportive and not offensive, Evil Pieces required are just three, but she can greatly improve her force through the objects and weapons she can create.

Pawn (3): The inheritor of the soul of Circe, the goddess of magic/witch/enchantress/sorceress in Greek mythology. She has a SG called "Ancient Enchantress" or "Goddess of Transformation and Sorcery's Grimoire" which indeed has the form of a grimoire (spell book) in her left hand, with an incredible amount of magic formulas to perform great spells, especially the ones able to transform people and the creation of poisons. Her magic is also 3 times more effective against male opponents. With her Balance Breaker she can activate dozens of spells at the same time and, as long as she has a drop of magic in her, she is practically immortal. Another power granted by her BB is that her magic is 10 times stronger against male opponents.

Pawn (1): Kiyome Abe. Becoming a devil, she was went to the Familiar Master and using her ability as a Beast Tamer, enhanced by devil magic, especially considering the fact that Issei granted her the permission to promote in that forest, Kiyome captured many familiars and she was even able to take the evil and powerful Nine-Headed Hydra that Rias mentioned speaking to Issei long ago. On top of that, she also made friend with Tiamat and she accepted to become her familiar. Using her power of Beast Tamer combined with a spell she created, she found the way to improve her familiars' and beasts' power according to how she promote herself. When she promote to Rook, for example, all the familiars gain the trait of the Rook, improving their strenght and defense. She practically can promote her whole party of creatures when she promote herself.

Pawn (Mutation Piece): the descendant of the monk Rasputin, and she has a unique Sacred Gear since hers has been passed down from generation to generation because it was corrupted by the monk himself through mysterious black arts and pacts with the devils. It's called "Holy Profane" or "Evil Petrine Cross Which Defies God" and grants the wielder different powers. It has the form of a black Cross of St. Peter. The most feared of its abilities is the power to improve the power of any kind of evil creature, for example devils, fallen angels and vampires. It can also heal fatal wound on evil beings. It can also canalize dark power of the creatures with which the wielder came in contact, since a small portion of the improved energy it grants to evil beings is sealed into the SG. So the more creatures come into contact with it, the greater the power guaranteed to its owner. This power takes the form of what is called Dark Touki, a stronger and evil version of Touki, which is also much more difficult to control, since it grants the user an incredible amount of Senjutsu power. The malice that risks to corrupt the wielder is on a whole other level compared to Senjutsu itself, so it's almost impossible to master this power without losing oneself. If you are able to perform this feat, however, you obtain a body incredibly strong through Dark Touki and a Senjutsu so powerful to be considered almost bottomless, since it can only grow with new evil beings the owner meets. Once you master the Dark Touki, even if you're body is fatally wounded or even dismembered, it restores itself with dark healing power, giving the owner the ability to fight almost endlessly. In his BB, called "Symphony of the Dead" Holy Profane allows the wielder to summon a great amount of corpses imbued with Dark Touki, and the SG takes the form of a mystic keyboard. Playing it, the wielder controls the corpses with the music of a pipe organ and allows them use senjutsu to control the nature around them and dark touki to enforce their physical strenght. If they get destroyed, they becomes black mist and then they come back as they were before being attacked, so the only way to stop them is to stop the wielder. The Church classified Holy Profane as a "Desecrated Gear" because of its nature. They thought it was finally lost forever after they killed the last possessor (her father), then they found out that he had a child with a prostitute. Once they killed him, Holy Profane was passed to her and she was hunted down for months religious fanatics through the forests of Russia, and even Stray Devils pursued her to make her increase their power. Coming in contact with them and being force by them to use her gear, she absorbed malice and got out of control, killin the stray devils and chased away the fanatics with her evil power. Angels decided to kill her to prevent her from killing innocents like the other members of her cursed family, but Issei decided to stand up to them for her. Issei, being a devil, was not listened by her, and she attacked him after the malice in her got out of control, but Issei decided not to fight her, so he didn't even use his SG and kept taking all her powerful blows until her conscience stopped her own body when he was about to die instead of hurting her to defend himself. She healed him and started to cry desperately. Once she got he was about to die, she tried to kill herself out of guilt, but Issei stopped her with his hand, begging her not to do it, because her death would have hurt him much more than her attacks. Using Holy Profane with the instinct of wanting to save him, she healed his wounds and, in that moment, his Pawn/Mutation Piece started to shine, making him understand that she was the one destined to that Piece.

Too Dangerous your rook. I thought that I was reading again about what would happen with Ingvild SC powers in Hades hands or worst..


Mutation PAWN. That Rasputin descendant is TOO DANGEROUS for the world too.

I think Ishi is not going to give this kind of dangerous members to Issei Peerage... They will be strong but not in one crazy power level(except if Ishi adds Verrine as PAWNx8/Mutation Piece) I am sure that Xenovia will be stronger than the other KNIGHT.. Is more easy see your other options..

Issei&Ingvild will be the only with Longinus level powers in this peerage.

[Lucidrago]

Originally Posted by Ka-el

the power comparable to a longinus of the knight is only related to the use of the holy sword of god himself, without it is a simple sacred gear, that's a condition.

the rook was created with 3 powerful beings made up with the power of a god like Loki.

about the pawn I didn't want to create a longinus but something different from a sacred gear, a corrupted version of it.

Still you're putting their potential at the level of the Longinus possessors with their abilities and powers.

We already have Second who is a clone of the original Surtr who couldn't handle the immense power he had so the Norse gods discarded him and left him to die until Sirzechs found him. And her being able to destroy the world would just be putting her in the same tier as the Longinus possessors. And plus Issei already has a being connected to Norse mythology in his peerage.

For the knight, the Sacred Gear was fine until you added the holy sword and made the girl have the potential of god-class and what she can do with the combination of the Sacred Gear and holy sword sound awfully like Canis Lykaon.

And the abilities you gave the corrupted Sacred Gear in its base state makes it a Longinus. And I really don't understand how a Sacred Gear can be corrupted. You have Sword Birth which creates demonic swords. You have Aeon Balor, Gasper's Longinus. And you have Canis Lykaon. So not entirely sure how a Sacred Gear can be corrupted.

[TommyG]

The overpowered abilities of the mutation piece character aside, I liked the element of a sacred gear that's inherited through ancestry. It's an interesting idea

[cyberdemon]

For his second knight I think Issei needs a spear user. Like maybe the weirder of gaebolg. Something besides swords

[Lucidrago]

We already have an OP spear user in this series and his name rhymes with 'Mao Mao.'

[TommyG]

I take it you have forgotten that xenovia, Lint, Yuuto, Arthur, Strada and Irina all use swords.

[Lucidrago]

And Bennia uses a scythe. Sairaorg's knight who rises horses uses a lance.

[TommyG]

So so far we have yet to see a spear wielding knight

[B214]

Who needs that, we need a bike riding Knight. XD

[Lucidrago]

Or a gun-toting knight who rides a motorcycle.

[TommyG]

Knight or pawn idea (preferably pawn) a magi from Zoroastrianism who either practices sun magic from the god Hvar Kashita or is a descendant of his and uses it in conjunction with the demonic sword Shamshir-e Zomorrodnegar (a sword used by king Solomon to slay a specific demon but it had the ability to infect anyone it cut and the infection could only be cure by Solomon).

[Lucidrago]

What's with all these demonic and holy sword users? Why can't we have someone that uses a rocket launcher?

[Darksider555]

Knights are usually melee weapons wielders. Most usually wield swords with the expection of Bennia & Beruka Furcas. Swords are the most practical weapons to use and Holy/Demonic swords tend to be the strongest swords.

I wanted to add more characters from other myths but I don't have as much knowledge about Hindu or other myths.

I may alter some aspects of my pawns expect the druid.

[TommyG]

Pawn character: Egyptian priestess of Set or descendant of Set who practices Egyptian chaos and desert magic.
Sacred Gear: weightless feather, allows her to see truth, can't be confused by illusionary magic and can read people's minds
Balance breaker: Ma'at, allows her to return reality to order, instills a sense of truth and justice in those around her.
Her magic circle could contain hieroglyphics.

[Darksider555]

We have been discussing Ise's peerage but will we ever see who Rias replaces Asia, Xenovia & Rossweisse with?

I have some ideas for Rias replacements:

Bishop:Inheritor of the soul of Medea. She is a powerful sorceress who also wields a Twilight Healing but her BxB allows her to boost her healing abilites and buff her allies when using it. She is in a relationship with the hero Jason

Knight: Inheritor of the soul of Jason who was the leader of the Argonauts. He wields the sword of his great ancestor which has become a Holy Sword. He also has access to a SG called the "Sun Fleece" which is inspired by God of War's Golden Fleece. It allows him to empower his sword strikes with sun power and it can charge his sword for a powerful solar wave but that wave cannot be used repeatedly. His BxB is "Sun Fleece Guard" which allows him to create a barrier to shield himself against attacks but like his wave it cannot be used repeatedly. He is in a relationship with Medea.

Rook: Someone how wields a mace made by the Grigori which has anti magic abilites.

Originally Posted by Ka-el

If we talk about some ideas that of course will never be realised in the novel, then I have some too.

Rook: the result of an experiment of Loki, realised mixing the genes of Bergelmir (frost giant), Surtr (fire giant) and Ymir (the first giant) in the body of a newborn human girl. To balance the amount of power injected into that girl Loki used his magic and forbidden spells, the purpose was the creation of a being that on his its could have caused Ragnarok. Mixing the colossal strenght of the first giant with the fire and ice, Loki would have created the ultimate weapon. And the fact of being human would have killed her in the moment her power became too great, granting Loki that she would have not been able to survive long enough to turn against him. Her body should have exploded so badly to ice the oceans and burning down the earth. Turning her into a devil and canalize her power though devil magic and, with the proper training, touki, could save her life. As Issei, she has to control opposite powers inside of her and find a way to balance them. Her physical strenght is extreme, and she can generate fire, ice and water which, once she will be able to master their full potential, could destroy the world. Sairaorg thinks that her full potential could put her on the same league or even above Regulus Nemea.

Pawn (3): The inheritor of the soul of Circe, the goddess of magic/witch/enchantress/sorceress in Greek mythology. She has a SG called "Ancient Enchantress" or "Goddess of Transformation and Sorcery's Grimoire" which indeed has the form of a grimoire (spell book) in her left hand, with an incredible amount of magic formulas to perform great spells, especially the ones able to transform people and the creation of poisons. Her magic is also 3 times more effective against male opponents. With her Balance Breaker she can activate dozens of spells at the same time and, as long as she has a drop of magic in her, she is practically immortal. Another power granted by her BB is that her magic is 10 times stronger against male opponents.

While I like your Circe idea a lot and feel it would compliment Ise's effectivness male opponents as Ise can already deal with female opponent I do think that @Lucidrago does have a point in that some characters are too powerful such as the Rook & Knight. I am hoping to come up with a character who can fill the role Roygun had in the tournament. Also I maintain that the hierachy should be

Ise>Ingvild>Xenovia at full power> everyone else.

[TommyG]

When you say hierarchy do you mean authority or power? Also I would prefer that any new characters form relationships with existing characters (not Issei) but Yuuto or Saji or Lou, also your rook seems a little underwhelming to he honest. And wouldn't the healer have the golden fleece since healing is what it did?

[Darksider555]

Originally Posted by TommyG

When you say hierarchy do you mean authority or power? Also I would prefer that any new characters form relationships with existing characters (not Issei) but Yuuto or Saji or Lou, also your rook seems a little underwhelming to he honest. And wouldn't the healer have the golden fleece since healing is what it did?

Well I mostly based the Golden Fleece on GoW so it has more of a defensive side. As for the Rook, I kind of know but I would need to add more characteritics to make it a unique character. The fleece has a variety of interpretations so it's powers can vary. Maybe change the SG for Jason into something more offensive so that the Rook can be defensive as we already have Koneko who is a bit of a offeisve Rook. But her physical power pales in comparison to other Rooks such a Balam, Rugal or Bune. Yuuto already has several love interests as does Saji.

What I mean by hierachy is that certain characters in the peerage aren't more powerful that other. No one is going to be stronger then Ise in his peerage but I want Ingvuild to be the second strongest since she is a Leviathan & has high tier Longinus.

[TommyG]

I agree that Ingvild should be second most powerful after Issei but I really don't see a problem with his other new members being more powerful then his current members. Asia, Xenovia and Rossweisse were all reincarnated by a high class devil who at best is above maou class while anyone Issei reincarnates will have a peice from a heavenly dragon class king. It seems only logical to me that they be more powerful.
While Saji has 2 girls interested in him and 1 he's interested in and Yuuto has 1 girl interested in him and 1 I assume is interested in him those numbers pale in comparison to Issei. Also there are characters who haven't got a love interest yet like Lou, Bikou or Vali.

[Lucidrago]

The only problem is that it seems like we're getting way too much Vali, Ingvild, and Gasper for these servants.

For example:

Very powerful species, has a powerful Sacred Gear that should be a Longinus, wields powerful sword or weapon, or both. Is the child, descendant, or has inherited the soul of someone really powerful or famous. And let's give them a Sacred Gear with abilities that make it a Longinus.