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Sumeragi · 2012-10-27, 11:33

I would also think that it shows just how fragile the will to be good is. In a way the Templers are right in that humans need discipline, and that giving people free will can lead to grave results.

Renegade334 · 2012-10-28, 03:55

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Originally Posted by MrTerrorist

Just so you know, the King Washington DLC is not part of AC3 storyline. It's just a "what if" story if Washington became power mad rather than the good, responsible leader that he was.

I know what the DLC is all about and that those packs can be considered as standalone storyline/tangents. I just wish they stuck to historical accuracy, as that was one of the major sources of fun for me.

Anyway, this is a French commentary of an ACIII preview (the final version will be released in less than a week), but it shows a couple more things about the urban environment:

YouTube

https://youtu.be/xK7WzYiYQKI

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Connor's free-running moves are completely different from of Altair's and Ezio's - Ubisoft completely overhauled his movements, even the most basic ones, so don't expect to see Connor running the same way as Ezio or Altair - you'll notice the difference immediately
Geographical synchronizing is still present in AC3 - this time, unlike Ezio and Altair, you're not crouching when you're synching with the landscape, you're standing
On the console, it seems the "jump over obstacle" and "run" buttons were merged
Remember those infuriating minstrels in AC2, the beggars in AC2B and imporverished women in AC2R who hounded you for money and kept slowing you down as you walked through a city? This time it'll be young orphans pestering you at every street corner (yep, there'll be more children NPCs present this time around)
Unlike AC2B/AC2R where your playground was a gigantic city, this time you get to travel between towns/cities and the wilderness. One limitation: if you've started a certain part of the campaign/storyline, you can't fast-travel to a different location until you've completed the said part of the storyline (not just the current mission, but the current set of missions...or so it seems) or canceled it altogether DX

Chaos2Frozen · 2012-10-28, 03:59

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Originally Posted by Renegade334

Remember those infuriating minstrels in AC2, the beggars in AC2B and imporverished women in AC2R who hounded you for money and kept slowing you down as you walked through a city? This time it'll be young orphans pestering you at every street corner (yep, there'll be more children NPCs present this time around)

Oh God no... At least with beggars and minstrels we can hit them- but there's no way they'll let us hit children npcs

Renegade334 · 2012-10-28, 04:17

Apparently, giving them money does the trick...but with the financial crisis going on, I don't think we can all afford it. XP

Time to free-run, then...that is, if you can find a way out of their encirclement - they looked pretty insistent in the video and appear to be using swarm tactics. XD

BTW, I was kind of pleased at seeing Connor swinging his arms while running. I had always been perplexed with Ezio's own running stance (arms stretched behind him) - he seemed to think he was an airplane getting ready to take off.

Drake · 2012-10-28, 08:48

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Originally Posted by Chaos2Frozen

Oh God no... At least with beggars and minstrels we can hit them- but there's no way they'll let us hit children npcs

Definitely not...

Shame I used to enjoy throwing the beggers into groups of guards

Anyway this hasn't been posted yet and its pretty out there! for a fan made live action, especially the end which is almost priceless.

Tyabann · 2012-10-28, 13:53

The thing that's been discouraging me from getting hyped about this game is how obvious biased it is against the British... can't say these advanced previews have really allayed that fear.

RRW · 2012-10-28, 17:11

apparently the ending is a stupid as other trilogy

Tyabann · 2012-10-29, 01:58

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Originally Posted by RRW

apparently the ending is a stupid as other trilogy

Nothing will ever be as stupid as Mass Effect 3's ending, thank god.
I've heard just a little bit about how AC3 ends and honestly I'm not too surprised that they did what they did.

Renegade334 · 2012-10-29, 02:20

Which does suggest...

Spoiler for big AC3 spoiler:

RRW · 2012-10-29, 03:06

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Originally Posted by Renegade334

Which does suggest...

Spoiler for big AC3 spoiler:

Spoiler for ending:

Renegade334 · 2012-10-29, 03:59

^--

What I mean is

Spoiler:

RRW · 2012-10-29, 03:59

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Originally Posted by Renegade334

^--

What I mean is

Spoiler:

probably just ret-con really

Edge Meltdown · 2012-10-30, 07:23

Benny... you "mad bastard" who knew you'd be the naughty type

willx · 2012-10-30, 10:30

Thought I'd pop in here and mention a headline I just saw:

http://kotaku.com/5956011/store-sell...beat-hurricane

"Assassin's Creed III isn't supposed to be out until tomorrow, but you know what? There are more important things in life than honouring street dates when your town is about to be swallowed up by water."

PS: Just noticed Kotaku is down, but I thought it was amusing.. some people are playing it right now!!!

creb · 2012-10-31, 05:16

I generally play the PC version of any cross-platform games, if only for the improved (usually), visuals, but Assassin's Creed always pisses me off at the lag time between the console and PC versions. At least this time it's only 20 days...

JagdPanther · 2012-10-31, 08:23

I always buy games on the original platform for which they were released (or the original brand, if they span multiple generations of systems). So, for example, I will only buy Call of Duty games for PC because that's where CoD got its start. On the flip side, I will only buy Medal of Honor games for SONY consoles, because that's where MoH got its start.

AC is a SONY-console-only game series, for me.

willx · 2012-10-31, 08:45

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Originally Posted by JagdPanther

I always buy games on the original platform for which they were released (or the original brand, if they span multiple generations of systems). So, for example, I will only buy Call of Duty games for PC because that's where CoD got its start. On the flip side, I will only buy Medal of Honor games for SONY consoles, because that's where MoH got its start.

AC is a SONY-console-only game series, for me.

I'd generally agree .. although I have trouble with the AC series and pretty much all J-RPGs nowadays. Too many side-quests and too much backtracking.. I just don't have that much free time to spend sitting on a couch these days, although a couch is more comfortable for games of this duration.. At least on a computer I can multi-task though ..

Kaioshin Sama · 2012-11-01, 14:27

Greatest video game commercial ever just cause of who's in it.

Seriously that's the last person I ever expected to be under that hood, but if something needs saving (hurr hurr) he's definitely the man for the job.

willx · 2012-11-01, 15:46

From reddit (captioned, moments before the police arrived)

And this, just.. just cause:

creb · 2012-11-04, 06:38

So, I blasphemied against myself and went ahead and got the PS3 version.

About 20 hours in. Getting close to the end I think.

My review:

AC II, Brotherhood, and Revelations were far better. AC 1 was worse.

That's not to say ACIII is bad. It's just not as good.

Some points as spoiler free as possible:

* First off, be prepared to spend a few hours in what is essentially a very long tutorial/prologue.

* Conner is the worst protagonist of the series. Boring, angry, petulant, boring, did I say boring? His voice actor does a good or bad job depending on your point of view. He does capture the native american feel, if you (consciously or not) had this image in your mind of native americans being sub-standard brutes, as so much of Hollywood has over the years. It's wooden, and devoid of life, and a huge bummer after having played Ezio over the course of three games and so many hours.

* I also emphasize far more with the "white man" over tree-hugging hippies, so that probably added to my complete lack of empathy for Conner.

* That said, Conner does have a few moments where his boorishness can't completely hide his genuinely "good" motives.

* Tried to cram an entire life into one game. Ezio got three games. Altair got two. Conner gets one. Suffice to say, Conner's story suffers from this. The number of plot holes are staggering. I don't mind a few, but this was just sad.

* Improved movement. Freerunning, etc, has always been mostly a joy, and it's been smoothed over even more in AC 3. Still has its throw your controller through the window moments, but still, this is the most refined control of the AC games.

* Mostly boring plot. Instead of giving us a rich story about Conner, it really felt like the writers took the highlights from the Revolutionary War and haphazardly threw Conner into those points.

* If I haven't made myself clear, the AC 3 story is, by far, the worst of the entire series.

* Allies. I ******* hate allies. Their AI is insanely bad, and they are so slow, when you are forced to keep them close to you, it puts a serious cramp in your freerunning.

* Sandbox elements are all there. If you enjoy brain-numbingly boring things like trapping rabbits, and then you-tubing it with commentary, you'll have a ball.

* I realize the AC director/producer/whoever made that comment earlier saying women couldn't be an assassin, but I can't help but feel that individual doesn't like women at all. I don't think I've ever played a game of the modern era in which there are so few women at all. Major sausage fest.

* There are a number of literal invisible walls. We're not talking about the animus deconstruction thing as you try to move off the map. We're talking about invisible walls where Conner even goes into the animation of standing against an...invisible wall. Plus, a number of large swathes of cliffs that are completely unclimable to force you to a specific path, which sort of flies in the freerunning spirit of AC.

So, if I was to give AC II and Brotherhood both 9/10s, I'd give ACIII a 6. I kept thinking, the story is going to pick up. It's going to get interesting, but the only thing that's been remotely interesting are the Desmond bits, and that's just because you get to listen to Juno slowly reveal everything to you. If you strip out the story, or don't give a rat's arse about story, the underlying game is rock solid though, so keep that in mind when looking at that 6.

2012-10-28, 04:17	Link #164
Renegade334 Sleepy Lurker Graphic Designer Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Nun'yabiznehz Age: 38	Apparently, giving them money does the trick...but with the financial crisis going on, I don't think we can all afford it. XP Time to free-run, then...that is, if you can find a way out of their encirclement - they looked pretty insistent in the video and appear to be using swarm tactics. XD BTW, I was kind of pleased at seeing Connor swinging his arms while running. I had always been perplexed with Ezio's own running stance (arms stretched behind him) - he seemed to think he was an airplane getting ready to take off. __________________ << -- Click to enter my (dead) GFX thread.

2012-10-29, 02:20	Link #169
Renegade334 Sleepy Lurker Graphic Designer Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Nun'yabiznehz Age: 38	Which does suggest... Spoiler for big AC3 spoiler: there'll be a new trilogy/expansion for the AC franchise, this time without Desmond. Probably a new modern-day assassin, a faraway relative of Desmond or someone who is also descended from Adam and Eve. Remember, Ubisoft DID say before the release of Revelations that AC could continue beyond AC3, but without Desdmond as the main character - the hints were already there. Killing Desmond off is kind of radical and does leave a bitter taste in the mouth - Ubisoft probably tried to push the "Survival vs Freedom of mind" theme too far and Desmond was the sacrificial lamb. Anyway, the guy looks like he's lost a dozen pounds in this game, compared to the last we'd seen of him in AC2:R. Either that or the guy has cancer/some disease that's taking a toll on him. __________________ << -- Click to enter my (dead) GFX thread.

2012-10-29, 03:59	Link #171
Renegade334 Sleepy Lurker Graphic Designer Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Nun'yabiznehz Age: 38	^-- What I mean is Spoiler: that, at the end of AC2R when Desmond wakes up, he still looks fine (his cheekbones aren't so prominent and his face didn't look so thin) - but, yet, here in AC3, which is supposed to start barely a few days after Desmond regained consciousness and revealed where the central vault is, he seems to have dropped more than a few pounds. Extreme Weight Watchers? I don't think so. I can buy lack of eating over a long period, but his face seems to have turned thin very fast compared to the very last cutscene of AC2R. __________________ << -- Click to enter my (dead) GFX thread.

2012-10-30, 07:23	Link #173
Edge Meltdown AxS HxM TxA RxS JxK HxM Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: akihabara :D Age: 36	Benny... you "mad bastard" who knew you'd be the naughty type __________________ "Nothing is true, Everything is Permitted" - Altaïr Ibn-La'Ahad

2012-10-31, 05:16	Link #175
creb Hiding Under Your Bed Join Date: May 2008	I generally play the PC version of any cross-platform games, if only for the improved (usually), visuals, but Assassin's Creed always pisses me off at the lag time between the console and PC versions. At least this time it's only 20 days... __________________ http://myanimelist.net/animelist/creb http://myanimelist.net/mangalist/creb It feels like years since they've been updated, btw. Also, cake.

2012-10-27, 11:33	Link #161
Sumeragi Banned Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Dai Korai Teikoku	I would also think that it shows just how fragile the will to be good is. In a way the Templers are right in that humans need discipline, and that giving people free will can lead to grave results.

2012-10-28, 13:53	Link #166
Tyabann Homo Ludens Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Canada Age: 34	The thing that's been discouraging me from getting hyped about this game is how obvious biased it is against the British... can't say these advanced previews have really allayed that fear.

2012-10-30, 10:30	Link #174
willx Nyaaan~~ Join Date: Feb 2006 Age: 40	Thought I'd pop in here and mention a headline I just saw: http://kotaku.com/5956011/store-sell...beat-hurricane "Assassin's Creed III isn't supposed to be out until tomorrow, but you know what? There are more important things in life than honouring street dates when your town is about to be swallowed up by water." PS: Just noticed Kotaku is down, but I thought it was amusing.. some people are playing it right now!!!

2012-10-31, 08:23	Link #176
JagdPanther WE ARE.... PENN STATE.... Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Nazareth, PA Age: 36	I always buy games on the original platform for which they were released (or the original brand, if they span multiple generations of systems). So, for example, I will only buy Call of Duty games for PC because that's where CoD got its start. On the flip side, I will only buy Medal of Honor games for SONY consoles, because that's where MoH got its start. AC is a SONY-console-only game series, for me. __________________ A good plan violently executed today is better than a perfect plan executed at some indefinite point in the future. –General George S. Patton, Jr. Avatar v. 37.0: Fighter Squadron 31. The VF-31 "Tomcatters."

2012-11-01, 14:27	Link #178
Kaioshin Sama Banned Join Date: May 2004 Location: Neither Here nor There Age: 39	<p>No iframe support, please <a href="http://youtu.be/b1y3SQRJUsg">watch on YouTube</a>.</p> Greatest video game commercial ever just cause of who's in it. Seriously that's the last person I ever expected to be under that hood, but if something needs saving (hurr hurr) he's definitely the man for the job.

2012-11-01, 15:46	Link #179
willx Nyaaan~~ Join Date: Feb 2006 Age: 40	From reddit (captioned, moments before the police arrived) And this, just.. just cause:

2012-11-04, 06:38	Link #180
creb Hiding Under Your Bed Join Date: May 2008	So, I blasphemied against myself and went ahead and got the PS3 version. About 20 hours in. Getting close to the end I think. My review: AC II, Brotherhood, and Revelations were far better. AC 1 was worse. That's not to say ACIII is bad. It's just not as good. Some points as spoiler free as possible: * First off, be prepared to spend a few hours in what is essentially a very long tutorial/prologue. * Conner is the worst protagonist of the series. Boring, angry, petulant, boring, did I say boring? His voice actor does a good or bad job depending on your point of view. He does capture the native american feel, if you (consciously or not) had this image in your mind of native americans being sub-standard brutes, as so much of Hollywood has over the years. It's wooden, and devoid of life, and a huge bummer after having played Ezio over the course of three games and so many hours. * I also emphasize far more with the "white man" over tree-hugging hippies, so that probably added to my complete lack of empathy for Conner. * That said, Conner does have a few moments where his boorishness can't completely hide his genuinely "good" motives. * Tried to cram an entire life into one game. Ezio got three games. Altair got two. Conner gets one. Suffice to say, Conner's story suffers from this. The number of plot holes are staggering. I don't mind a few, but this was just sad. * Improved movement. Freerunning, etc, has always been mostly a joy, and it's been smoothed over even more in AC 3. Still has its throw your controller through the window moments, but still, this is the most refined control of the AC games. * Mostly boring plot. Instead of giving us a rich story about Conner, it really felt like the writers took the highlights from the Revolutionary War and haphazardly threw Conner into those points. * If I haven't made myself clear, the AC 3 story is, by far, the worst of the entire series. * Allies. I ******* hate allies. Their AI is insanely bad, and they are so slow, when you are forced to keep them close to you, it puts a serious cramp in your freerunning. * Sandbox elements are all there. If you enjoy brain-numbingly boring things like trapping rabbits, and then you-tubing it with commentary, you'll have a ball. * I realize the AC director/producer/whoever made that comment earlier saying women couldn't be an assassin, but I can't help but feel that individual doesn't like women at all. I don't think I've ever played a game of the modern era in which there are so few women at all. Major sausage fest. * There are a number of literal invisible walls. We're not talking about the animus deconstruction thing as you try to move off the map. We're talking about invisible walls where Conner even goes into the animation of standing against an...invisible wall. Plus, a number of large swathes of cliffs that are completely unclimable to force you to a specific path, which sort of flies in the freerunning spirit of AC. So, if I was to give AC II and Brotherhood both 9/10s, I'd give ACIII a 6. I kept thinking, the story is going to pick up. It's going to get interesting, but the only thing that's been remotely interesting are the Desmond bits, and that's just because you get to listen to Juno slowly reveal everything to you. If you strip out the story, or don't give a rat's arse about story, the underlying game is rock solid though, so keep that in mind when looking at that 6. __________________ http://myanimelist.net/animelist/creb http://myanimelist.net/mangalist/creb It feels like years since they've been updated, btw. Also, cake.