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I agree whole heartedly. That movie was a pure pile of crap. Then again... so was G-Saviour. Hollywood tried Gundam once, and failed miserably. If I had anything to say about it, they shouldn't be allowed to try again... Unless I were allowed to do it. Then I'd support it whole-heartedly.
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2007-12-13, 05:27 | Link #63 |
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Do note that the Transformers movie DID have ILM working on it, which is why the CG mecha were good. Not perfect, but until a better movie comes along, Transformers is the standard set for live-action mecha movies (that don't involve lumbering Battlemech-style tanks).
I think they should leave a Live-Action Gundam movie to an unknown writer and unknown director, but those who have talent and can work with the source material--not necessarily stick to it word for word, but know when they should keep stuff in and when to toss it out for new stuff. Lord, they've already done that a gajillion times with all the Gundam AltVerse anime. A big-name director is just going to kill the movie, unless they pull it off well--hey, look at where the Peter Jackson Halo movie/whatever is going. No-name writer, no-name director, but lots of talent. One more thing, though: Gundam just doesn't work in the Movie format, Live-Action or animated, because it needs lots of episodes of exposition. Char's Counterattack and Gundam Wing Endless Waltz worked because they had prior TV series, and the ones who watched them (And loved them) were fans. Watching this stuff cold would just not work. F91, for example (and mind you, I loved F91) just fell apart because 90 minutes is nowhere near long enough to give that epic War-Story Gundam feel. And it's not just Gundam--do compare the Final Fantasy "Spirits Within" movie and the Advent Children short--AC worked because people watching it were fans, and the other movie just didn't bite well. If a Live-Action Gundam is to be made, it's going to take one hell of a good director and a hell of a writer. IMHO (and only IMHO) the only way a Gundam movie could work is if you take the Gundam out of the equation; i.e. make it about GMs and Zakus et. al., a'la Black Hawk Down, instead of about the Gundam. Otherwise, it's just not going to work.
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2007-12-13, 17:10 | Link #64 |
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I don't see why everybody thinks Micha Bay sucks so bad? Transformers was a good movie, and its cash rake-in supports such. A friend of mine, who is horridly criticizing of this kind of thing, went to see the movie three times in theaters. This is a guy who I couldn't even get to laugh or even grin at the Lafina bunny costume scene in the final episode of SRW OG DW. >.>
While the Transformers CG may have been a little needlessly complex, it gave it a more modern feel to it. As for how well he'd do on characters, is there any way to get 50-episode-good character development into a 2-hour+ movie? I seriously doubt it.
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2007-12-14, 03:38 | Link #66 |
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That was, like, the intention. Transformers wasn't known for jaw-droping, awesome character development in the first place, so why make it known for it now?
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Off topic - Also, Transformers had a great deal of character development. Hell, the G1 Ironhide had more to him than all of the movie Autobots combined...
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Alright, you got me there. I still wouldn't want Bay taking on Gundam, though. It just doesn't seem like a series he'd be able to do justice to....
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Well to me in my opinion American television/film always SUCK in bringing in media from japan to the mass media in the west. One example of this is when I was in the US and was watching Gundam Seed and I was WTF the american version cut all the bloody sences or digitaly remove the blood and change the regular guns to DISCO guns!!
and in hearing that they are going to make a live action of dragonball Z it gave me the chills. Most anime turn live action movies always never turn out well, maybe because of lack of research of the show or they dont even approach the original creators or they did but fired them afterwards or the producers are trying to get as much people to see the movie and inturn get more money so thet try to make it very 1 dimentional. With most of them its all about the money and sometimes they dont care about the integrity of the story. Sometimes they dont approach it with a different angle. With G saviour (gladly i never saw it) from what I read it was typical american style "good guys beat bad guys" type film. So if they really want to make a good Gundam Live action movie. They should do A LOT and i mean A LOT of research on all the series. Have the hole staff including the cast to watch all the series and yes that includes G saviour XD as well looking at fan reaction from forums and other media such as this one. Have them try to stay true to the gundam tradition and try to approach it from a different angle such as instead of one movie make it like a trilogy or not even base it on UC or past any universe but make a new alternate universe, put in a relatively unknown director that has actually have talent in and most importantly have the original creators of Gundam actually be part of the project . BUT THEN I HIGHLY DOUBT THEY WILL MAKE IT THAT WAY!! -_- |
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