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Shiro Kaisen · 2010-10-11, 23:36

Ryuukishi interview time.

EPISODE EIGHT WILL HAVE (A) CHOICE(S)

Rough translation from Lazarillo:

I don't intend for this to be the end of the story.
Episode six was the end of Battler and Beato's tale.
Episode seven was the end of (spoilers omitted)
Episode eight is...

It might not be that it's over when the writing is done.
Is it okay to say this? I might worry you.
Before, BT-san used to say things like this. If it were him, would he really say it? It might have a different meaning in that case. (TL note: Bit unsure here)

Episode eight has (a) choice(s)
You become a character and make choices from his point of view.
There's also (a) bad end(s)
The choice(s) are pretty tough.
Seeing the murder for the first time, you might not be able to understand at first.

Thoughts? IMO it'll either be "Was it mystery, or was it fantasy?" or Yasu choosing his identity.

Used Can · 2010-10-11, 23:51

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Originally Posted by Shiro Kaisen

EPISODE EIGHT WILL HAVE (A) CHOICE(S)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shiro Kaisen

Episode eight has (a) choice(s)
You become a character and make choices from his point of view.
There's also (a) bad end(s)
The choice(s) are pretty tough.
Seeing the murder for the first time, you might not be able to understand at first.

WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAKSAAAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUUCE!
If I wanted choices I could be playing something else. And, what's more, I could even be getting porn.

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Originally Posted by Shiro Kaisen

Episode seven was the end of (spoilers omitted)

Was the "spoilers omitted" from R07 or from the translator? Because if it's from the latter, I'm interested on them.

Revelation · 2010-10-11, 23:52

Wow...

That's pretty unexpected.... You're worrying me R07, but I'm still loving this though...

EDIT: Still waiting for someone else to confirm this 'interview.'

Also with further contemplation: It might not be over when it's done? We won't understand the murders at first? This leaves me guessing a lot.... Maybe a new episode leading into a new series/arcs? At first I was expecting a light epilogue finally shedding truth on the rest of Rokkenjima, but now he's throwing us another curveball.

Shiro Kaisen · 2010-10-11, 23:52

The translator, I forgot what was there and he went to sleep.

Used Can · 2010-10-11, 23:58

Okay, I see. Hopefully, you can find that what that spoiler was later.

Anyway, hopefully that interview is a hoax.

Will Wright · 2010-10-12, 00:38

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Seeing the murder for the first time, you might not be able to understand at first.

Bring it on.

Golden Witch vs Golden Age:
ROUND 3, FIGHT!

Used Can · 2010-10-12, 00:49

Now that I think more clearly about it, if these options lead to endings that are clearly stated as fictional, yet acceptable enough for players who, perhaps, would like to see happier ends, then I'm fine with them, as long as we get a "true route" in which we can how the real events in Rokkenjima unfolded, no matter what they were.

Of course, if we get some "choose the answer you like best" type of ending, then I'll be extremely disappointed.

Shiro Kaisen · 2010-10-12, 01:07

Got sauce for you.

http://teal.sakura.ne.jp/time_of_bli...umi_live3.html

It's a transcript from a live interview Ryuu gave at a concert Dai did.

And as a translator myself, I can confirm Laz's translation. The "spoiler" was "Ep. 7 provided an end to the mystery."

Will Wright · 2010-10-12, 01:16

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Originally Posted by Shiro Kaisen

Got sauce for you.

http://teal.sakura.ne.jp/time_of_bli...umi_live3.html

It's a transcript from a live interview Ryuu gave at a concert Dai did.

And as a translator myself, I can confirm Laz's translation. The "spoiler" was "Ep. 7 provided an end to the mystery."

...Seriously?

So we aren't even getting a motive for all the killings other than "lol money"?

That's....Yyyeah okay. Well, I'll take it. It could have been worse, but it feels anticlimatic.

luckyssol · 2010-10-12, 01:19

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EP8は選択肢がある。
とあるキャラクターになりきって、主観で選択肢を選ぶ。

What an interesting way to end things if this is indeed the end.

Renall · 2010-10-12, 01:23

Well, I guess he had to make it count as a "game" at some point.

If true, I think this might set some sort of VN record for longest stretch of reading before a choice node, at something like 50+ hours.

Assuming this means what it seems to mean, and honestly at this point I don't even know with this guy.

EDIT: Also...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryukishi

It might not be that it's over when the writing is done.

Called it.

Used Can · 2010-10-12, 01:26

Hmm... Well, I guess now it sounds interesting. The idea that you can take the viewpoint of a character, may give us a lot of insight regarding their own personalities, motivations amongst other things, and all the information we gather from this may help us to get a clearer vision of the truth, and understand what exactly happened during EP7's Tea Party and why it actually happened. In addition, the happy/sad endings for each scenario would be something like Lion's world type of scenarios I suppose. I guess this sounds... hmm... rather intriguing.

But, if he does something like this, wouldn't EP8 end up becoming an extremely long episode to write... especially considering he said he started not so long ago? Although, well, the character's scenarios may not be that long.

So, my guess is that the main story will be the "multi-route" scenario. The Tea Party will probably (and hopefully) be the true story, and the ???? Tea Party will probably be an epilogue, or something like that.

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Originally Posted by Will Wright

So we aren't even getting a motive for all the killings other than "lol money"?

No, I'm guessing this is why we're getting these character-scenarios. We can see things from their perspectives, and then from the sum of all their perspectives, we can understand why things ended up that way during EP7's Tea Party. Well, who knows? Hopefully, it'll be something like this.

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Originally Posted by Renall

EDIT: Also...Called it.

How did you expect getting Umineko Zero otherwise?

Renall · 2010-10-12, 01:28

Nah, he's gonna screw with us. This is perfect. Give everyone the ending they want and never say a goddamn thing about what it was supposed to be.

Well-played, you ass. Well-played.

TehChron · 2010-10-12, 01:28

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Originally Posted by Will Wright

Bring it on.

Golden Witch vs Golden Age:
ROUND 3, FIGHT!

Bahaha.

INTERESTING!

Let's see what hes got left on this board to throw at us!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Renall

Nah, he's gonna screw with us. This is perfect. Give everyone the ending they want and never say a goddamn thing about what it was supposed to be.

Well-played, you ass. Well-played.

Yeah, I knew he's just trolling us.

Truly a master of the art. My hat's off to the man, it well and truly is.

Will Wright · 2010-10-12, 01:35

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Originally Posted by Renall

Nah, he's gonna screw with us. This is perfect. Give everyone the ending they want and never say a goddamn thing about what it was supposed to be.

Well-played, you ass. Well-played.

That sums up my reaction nicely. It's a magnificent bastard move if I ever saw one.

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Bahaha.

INTERESTING!

Let's see what hes got left on this board to throw at us!

Whatever he has, I am not losing. I read the first 7 episodes back to back, so I barely did anything past solving the locked rooms.

But now, NOW I HAVE EXPERIENCE. It's on. You hear that Ryuukishi? IT'S ON.
Eh bien monami, from now on it's elementary what you have to do; launch your challenge to the reader and the game will be afoot, and I swear I will solve it in the name of my grandfather who some argue might be Sherlock Holmes though my biographer might just be insane because I went Oxford leaving me with a slight English accent which makes living in a small british village an excellent opportunity to learn about human nature because I swear there is only one truth and I will catch the criminal, I swear, BUT YOU MUST GIVE ME TIME!

I'm not sure how many references I just made.

Renall · 2010-10-12, 01:35

I'm curious why he even bothers to say "a character," given that there's about a 90% chance of it being Battler.

But really, this is causing me to lose a lot of respect for him if it is as the suggestion sounds (though of course it may not be). I was interested in his answer to his own story, not mine. If I wanted to give him my answer, I'd write one.

The only way he could redeem himself with this is if you're making the choices as the murderer. Because, let's face it, it would be kind of awesome if we had to use what we think we know about the killer's plans and methods to execute the crimes.

But at this point I think he just wants to screw with us and run off laughing. Christ.

Will Wright · 2010-10-12, 01:38

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Originally Posted by Renall

I'm curious why he even bothers to say "a character," given that there's about a 90% chance of it being Battler.

But really, this is causing me to lose a lot of respect for him if it is as the suggestion sounds (though of course it may not be). I was interested in his answer to his own story, not mine. If I wanted to give him my answer, I'd write one.

The only way he could redeem himself with this is if you're making the choices as the murderer. Because, let's face it, it would be kind of awesome if we had to use what we think we know about the killer's plans and methods to execute the crimes.

But at this point I think he just wants to screw with us and run off laughing. Christ.

It could also be something like "turn the murderer in" or "run off with them and get rich."

Used Can · 2010-10-12, 01:42

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Originally Posted by Renall

I'm curious why he even bothers to say "a character," given that there's about a 90% chance of it being Battler.

Maybe my Japanese is not that good, but the idea I got was that you can become one of the characters, and then make choices from this character's viewpoint.

luckyssol · 2010-10-12, 01:43

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Originally Posted by Renall

I'm curious why he even bothers to say "a character," given that there's about a 90% chance of it being Battler.

To correct the translation a little it says 'a certain character' so it's probably implying that.

LyricalAura · 2010-10-12, 01:45

Hoh, is this our kakera-musubi, then? How pleasant, how pleasant!

The warning that the some of the choices will be unpleasant is quite interesting... Sounds to me like the game is either going to be from Yasu's POV or the culprit's. Either way we should see how the witch's illusion was orchestrated behind the scenes.

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Revelation lorem ipsum dolor sit ame Artist Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: CA, USA Age: 29	Wow... That's pretty unexpected.... You're worrying me R07, but I'm still loving this though... EDIT: Still waiting for someone else to confirm this 'interview.' Also with further contemplation: It might not be over when it's done? We won't understand the murders at first? This leaves me guessing a lot.... Maybe a new episode leading into a new series/arcs? At first I was expecting a light epilogue finally shedding truth on the rest of Rokkenjima, but now he's throwing us another curveball. __________________ Last edited by Revelation; 2010-10-12 at 01:03.

2010-10-11, 23:58	Link #18005
Used Can Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008	Okay, I see. Hopefully, you can find that what that spoiler was later. Anyway, hopefully that interview is a hoax. __________________ "The name is Tin; Used is just an alias. I'm everything Shoe Box would like to be." - Used Can of the Aluminium Kingdom

2010-10-12, 00:49	Link #18007
Used Can Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2008	Now that I think more clearly about it, if these options lead to endings that are clearly stated as fictional, yet acceptable enough for players who, perhaps, would like to see happier ends, then I'm fine with them, as long as we get a "true route" in which we can how the real events in Rokkenjima unfolded, no matter what they were. Of course, if we get some "choose the answer you like best" type of ending, then I'll be extremely disappointed. __________________ "The name is Tin; Used is just an alias. I'm everything Shoe Box would like to be." - Used Can of the Aluminium Kingdom

2010-10-12, 01:28	Link #18013
Renall BUY MY BOOK!!! Join Date: May 2009	Nah, he's gonna screw with us. This is perfect. Give everyone the ending they want and never say a goddamn thing about what it was supposed to be. Well-played, you ass. Well-played. __________________ Redaction of the Golden Witch I submit that a murder was committed in 1996. This murder was a "copycat" crime inspired by our tales of 1986. This story is a redacted confession. Blog (VN DL) - YouTube Playlists Battler Solves The Logic Error

2010-10-12, 01:35	Link #18016
Renall BUY MY BOOK!!! Join Date: May 2009	I'm curious why he even bothers to say "a character," given that there's about a 90% chance of it being Battler. But really, this is causing me to lose a lot of respect for him if it is as the suggestion sounds (though of course it may not be). I was interested in his answer to his own story, not mine. If I wanted to give him my answer, I'd write one. The only way he could redeem himself with this is if you're making the choices as the murderer. Because, let's face it, it would be kind of awesome if we had to use what we think we know about the killer's plans and methods to execute the crimes. But at this point I think he just wants to screw with us and run off laughing. Christ. __________________ Redaction of the Golden Witch I submit that a murder was committed in 1996. This murder was a "copycat" crime inspired by our tales of 1986. This story is a redacted confession. Blog (VN DL) - YouTube Playlists Battler Solves The Logic Error

2010-10-11, 23:36	Link #18001
Shiro Kaisen Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010	Ryuukishi interview time. EPISODE EIGHT WILL HAVE (A) CHOICE(S) Rough translation from Lazarillo: I don't intend for this to be the end of the story. Episode six was the end of Battler and Beato's tale. Episode seven was the end of (spoilers omitted) Episode eight is... It might not be that it's over when the writing is done. Is it okay to say this? I might worry you. Before, BT-san used to say things like this. If it were him, would he really say it? It might have a different meaning in that case. (TL note: Bit unsure here) Episode eight has (a) choice(s) You become a character and make choices from his point of view. There's also (a) bad end(s) The choice(s) are pretty tough. Seeing the murder for the first time, you might not be able to understand at first. Thoughts? IMO it'll either be "Was it mystery, or was it fantasy?" or Yasu choosing his identity.

2010-10-11, 23:52	Link #18004
Shiro Kaisen Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010	The translator, I forgot what was there and he went to sleep.

2010-10-12, 01:07	Link #18008
Shiro Kaisen Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010	Got sauce for you. http://teal.sakura.ne.jp/time_of_bli...umi_live3.html It's a transcript from a live interview Ryuu gave at a concert Dai did. And as a translator myself, I can confirm Laz's translation. The "spoiler" was "Ep. 7 provided an end to the mystery."

2010-10-12, 01:45	Link #18020
LyricalAura Dea ex Kakera Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Sea of Fragments	Hoh, is this our kakera-musubi, then? How pleasant, how pleasant! The warning that the some of the choices will be unpleasant is quite interesting... Sounds to me like the game is either going to be from Yasu's POV or the culprit's. Either way we should see how the witch's illusion was orchestrated behind the scenes. __________________ "Something has fallen on us that falls very seldom on men; perhaps the worst thing that can fall on them. We have found the truth; and the truth makes no sense."