(L+CR) Kyoukai no Kanata (Beyond the Boundary)

[Reincarnated]

I agree that this series is kinda lacking the skill of cinematography. Not only the action scene, even the slice-of-life scenes. But I do think it's because of the tight deadlines anime series usually has and I hope it'll be fixed in blue-ray version later.

Even Madoka Magica example that is stated above, I feel there's some difference compared to TV version.

[NinjaRealist]

Originally Posted by Reincarnated

I agree that this series is kinda lacking the skill of cinematography. Not only the action scene, even the slice-of-life scenes. But I do think it's because of the tight deadlines anime series usually has and I hope it'll be fixed in blue-ray version later.

Even Madoka Magica example that is stated above, I feel there's some difference compared to TV version.

I thought some of the cinematography was brilliant. For example, the scene depicted in your avatar.

[Lord of Fire]

Originally Posted by Reincarnated

I agree that this series is kinda lacking the skill of cinematography. Not only the action scene, even the slice-of-life scenes. But I do think it's because of the tight deadlines anime series usually has and I hope it'll be fixed in blue-ray version later.

Even Madoka Magica example that is stated above, I feel there's some difference compared to TV version.

KyoAni usually has no problems with deadlines, often finishing episodes well ahead of time, unlike SHAFT, who hardly ever finish on time, so I don't really think this is an issue.

The real problem with this show that I have, besides the lackluster action scenes, is the protagonists themselves. I find Mirai annoying as hell (did they have to make her clumsy and a complete airhead?) and the male lead isn't that much better himself. He's already showing bad taste in women and if these two will end up falling in love, I wouldn't at all be surprised.

[ZabiLegacy]

If we are using Madoka Magika as an example it seems like a mistake to not pick the fight scene where the incredible nature of the show's presentation, camera work, and art style played the majority of the role. the fight itself isn't anything unique or noteworthy, but the way it's presented is simpy so great that it remains one of the most memorable action scenes in anime history for me.

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[rulfo]

Originally Posted by SuzushinaYuriko

I feel like the main thing missing from Kyoukai no Kanata's battle scenes is good fight music and timing. They managed to do it well in the second PV by syncing it with the guitar in Chihara Minori's "No Line". However, the actual fight scene in episode 2 had an ambient background that was underwhelming and didn't really fit.

I've been wanting to say this for a long time but you gone ahead and pointed something related to it. The audio of KNK for me is too soft. The BGM never gets to support the scene that much because of problem.

Originally Posted by Reincarnated

I agree that this series is kinda lacking the skill of cinematography. Not only the action scene, even the slice-of-life scenes. But I do think it's because of the tight deadlines anime series usually has and I hope it'll be fixed in blue-ray version later.

Even Madoka Magica example that is stated above, I feel there's some difference compared to TV version.

I don't think this to be case with KnK. Last time KyoAni's scheduling caught up with them was in Tamako.

[Malkuth]

Originally Posted by Reincarnated

I agree that this series is kinda lacking the skill of cinematography. Not only the action scene, even the slice-of-life scenes. But I do think it's because of the tight deadlines anime series usually has and I hope it'll be fixed in blue-ray version later.

Even Madoka Magica example that is stated above, I feel there's some difference compared to TV version.

It's not just this anime... KyoAni has some brilliant animators, but their insistence on "somehow owning the rights and profits" to other peoples' works in order to make a larger profit, hurts them... aesthetically... still they can make a profit out of fanboys, but this is short-sighted, since they recently decided to expand into fangirls, and obviously their approach since the original Haruhi and TSR is not working out as their decision-makers had hoped

This anime had a lot of potential, like chuunibyou, but that got drowned under the love for short-sighted moeblob sales

[Vallen Chaos Valiant]

KyoAni is getting better. There was a time when I wouldn't even bother to try a KyoAni original show. They are learning, and I am prepared to see how much better they can get.

[Malkuth]

Originally Posted by Vallen Chaos Valiant

KyoAni is getting better. There was a time when I wouldn't even bother to try a KyoAni original show. They are learning, and I am prepared to see how much better than can get.

True! 4-5 years ago they were unwatchable, but still their approach and mindset is their biggest problem. Still they are unable to reach again their peak back in mid-2000's

[fertygo]

Hyouka is KyoAni best work, shame now they endorsing these LN adaptation now.

[Malkuth]

Originally Posted by fertygo

Hyouka is KyoAni best work, shame now they endorsing these LN adaptation now.

Really?! I am not sure if we are allowed to discuss such matters in this thread, but anyway... judging from the first two arc the only thing I watched in Hyokka was wasted potential, in other words, an overanimated with scenery porn first arc that introduced a moe-blob for a silly wordplay two decades long that rightfully none cared about in between about a very interesting period of Japanese politics that was just mentioned in order to avoid controversy and focus on the said moe-blob, followed by an excellent build-up of angst over someone smoking in a clubroom... it's one thing to have a story to tell, and another to sell one that doesn't exist as a masterpiece.

For the thread relevant part, the themes that the writer nominally handles in this anime are handled better in Yozakura Quartet and Gigitsune, despite not having the same amount of ca$h to work with.

[ZabiLegacy]

They've been doing Light Novels since they were founded. Full Metal Panic and Haruhi were both a light novel first.

[Malkuth]

Originally Posted by ZabiLegacy

They've been doing Light Novels forever. Haruhi was a light novel.

And FMP, the difference is that now they buy the rights to the novels before animating them in order to maximize their profit. That's why the storytelling has degraded dramatically over the past few years, they don't have any solid original material to work with, and copy/paste what made K-On commercially successful.

[fertygo]

Those are LN that legitimately picked by publishing company, not random title from unknown contest that god knows who the hell the participant and why they not applying in bigger contest if they have talent. Just telling their worth value.

Originally Posted by Malkuth

Really?! I am not sure if we are allowed to discuss such matters in this thread, but anyway... judging from the first two arc the only thing I watched in Hyokka was wasted potential, in other words, an overanimated with scenery porn first arc that introduced a moe-blob for a silly wordplay two decades long that rightfully none cared about in between about a very interesting period of Japanese politics that was just mentioned in order to avoid controversy and focus on the said moe-blob, followed by an excellent build-up of angst over someone smoking in a clubroom... it's one thing to have a story to tell, and another to sell one that doesn't exist as a masterpiece.

For the thread relevant part, the themes that the writer nominally handles in this anime are handled better in Yozakura Quartet and Gigitsune, despite not having the same amount of ca$h to work with.

Hyouka main attraction is production value that meat with smart composition in the storyboard make the mundane story feel alive.. and the story definitely not your standard LN welfare regardless you like it or not.

Whatever you think about the show, KyoAni definitely give it effort more than any show that they doing after it. The visual look cleaner, the storyboard feel ambitious, complete with well composed OST. Maybe they want to give nice goodbye gift for Kadokawa.

also there's no moeblob that as obvious as Mirai in Hyouka. But I know you're gonna mentioning someone, oh well..

[Kazu-kun]

You guys do realize the moment a mod sees all this KyoAni general discussion all these posts are going to get deleted, right?

[erika4dsl]

I just finished watching episode 3 and it was ... okay.
The animation is awesome as usual, but something just feels off about this show.
Maybe it's the humor that's not really funny or maybe the characters so far haven't really been all that interesting.

[MisaoFan]

Spoiler for Episode 3:

The third episode was rad to watch. Although the first half is mostly babbled with entertaining school interactions, the meat that comes within this week was the fight scene involving Mirai and her former friend, which might lead to rather strong emotionnal content later on when Akihito says some words in the last minute. I cannot wait for more in the future!

[CrowKenobi]

Originally Posted by Kazu-kun

You guys do realize the moment a mod sees all this KyoAni general discussion all these posts are going to get deleted, right?

I'm not going to delete the posts, but I will insist that any further KyoAni studio discussion move to its proper thread so that it won't get in the way of the discussion of KnK's third episode.

[EroKing]

Originally Posted by erika4dsl

The animation is awesome as usual, but something just feels off about this show.

The timing of the events I guess, music too. There wasn't much feel or impact in there making me go "meh" for most of the episode.


^Only good thing about the episode.

[ookamigirl]

So the scaredy cat girl decided money was worth overcoming her fears.
Interesting how necessity make you do things you don't want to do.
Their school stuff conversations are pretty basic though.
The best part is definitely youmu hunting.
I also like the Kuriyama - Akihito relationship.

[Shinhwa]

Originally Posted by TheEroKing

The timing of the events I guess, music too. There wasn't much feel or impact in there making me go "meh" for most of the episode.


^Only good thing about the episode.

Chihara Minori + Glasses = Nagato Yuki > >

8D