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Or you just could alter they laws that affects her powers making her useless against you without affecting the enviroment, like Kakine did to Mugino's Meltdowner. Or just go use legends based magic where they're inmune to lighting and derivated, shintoism has a lot of this like cutting lighting and thunder with a steel sword.
About what LevelSeven said, I can't recall examples so far but Opila rune card has an area effect that affects people awareness/senses including espers, it has worked several times in the series, and I think this one of the reasons why Mikoto was never able to find Touma after he went to the place where the Amakusa were fighting against Acqua of the Back. |
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Meh, Mugino has fought Kakine at least two times on vol.15, she should have (ab)used Meltdowner on him but afterwards we saw Kakine didn't even lose a single hair, so he should have done the same he did to Accelerator, he just messed up with the energies working behind the rules of her powers and he only had to just punch her to defeat her.
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2014-04-24, 10:31 | Link #2207 |
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Because, I'm deliberately trying to remind you in a rather indirect way that metldowner perfectly worked on him in NT + it was already stated that he just reflects back her beams in Vol 22 + what he did to Accel in Vol 15 has nothing to do with "messed up with the energies working behind the rules of her powers".
Son of God once said that you should ... I actually don't know exactly what it was, but it was something about taking one's advice for themselves first.
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Kakine from Vol.15 isn't the same from NT. The former cared about his body, the latter can just sapm more bodies and keep going on.
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Moreover, it doesn't make sense why he would downgrade his powers in the first place. Quote:
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hence, the only reaosn why kakine even loosed agaisnt a non-awakened person or a being from horus is because: 1. he is still a cocky bastard 2. he didnt even realize 10% of the power he should have with dark matter Quote:
but magic has nothing to do with physics so this stuff doesnt apply to that theoretical room... imagine: 1. someone creates/uses (like miraluka posted) something similar with a opila rune and creates a area where the physical laws doesnt exist... 2. the magician uses a exorcist spell and "expel" the "evil" demons 3. this "demons" are the underlying powers of the espers 4. accel or mikoto are inside such a place and......thier powers simply stop working...they can move, speak, breath but their powers (the "evil" demons) are "expelled" would this work? |
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While looking up information on comparative mythology, I came across stuff regarding the hypothesised PIER and I was wondering how it would be classified with regards to the "cracks" - what do people reckon?
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1. He is a cocky bastard full of himself. If he tried to attack Accelerator before going "Mwahaha, I'm so awesome" probably Kakine wouldn't have been put on a fridge. 2. Maybe he realized it but he chose to laugh and claimn victory without even ending with the fight before . |
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kakine attacked with wind => accel reflected it kakine analyzed the refleected parts => finds out that not the entire wind was reflected, only parts of him, the parts which are deemed harmful by accel kakine takes the parts which arent reflected and changes the laws of this energys, makes them harmful..... he didnt interfere into accels powers per se but he "deceived" its analyses system... Quote:
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and giving the pattern of: NT4: byouri using his power and recreating her legs NT5-6: kakine shows a extended version NT8: gremlin creates a holistic esper NT??: kakine will probably show the power to create PR's.... so lets wait until he shows up stronger and will be defeated in a ridiculous way.... |
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2014-04-24, 11:10 | Link #2214 | ||
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They why is he so pissed off?
Acqua and Fiamma didn't downgrade their powers for fun though. In fact, NT Kakine and Bettle-kun are supposedly a freaking upgrades of Vol 15 kakine. Quote:
Moreover, that "No, the white wings coming from the mask most likely could deflect those weakened Meltdowner attacks." was actually a quote for the novels. It's words of God, so don't ask me. Quote:
EDIT : And btw, Kakine just bypassed reflection using filter tricks. He's just attacking with unknown particles that Accel's filters don't recognize as harmful (yet), because they shouldn't be according to normal physics. It's like saying 1+1 = 10 is wrong, while it's actually right in binary base. It's not that he messed up with the laws, it's just Accelerator who used the wrong laws to analyse it and determine whether it was really harmful for him or not.
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That doesn't stopped him, though. Mugino appears and ended with his fun tormeting Accelerator.
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"The whole is more than the parts" Beetle 05 can't go all out or evil Kakine might take control over the Dark Matter as it happened to him before. To me, he just changed tactics now that he could use Dark Matter on other forms. All of this based on his obsesion with Accelerator and who has the bigger penis conflict. He even forgot the plans he had for Aleister I wouldn't be surprised if he got "forgot"(because plot) that last part he realized about his powers before being trashed by Accelerator on vol.15. Quote:
Which is: Dark Matter affects the energies from Meltdowner the moment it hits/touches it, making it useless. This based on the fight between #1 and #2. Now, does that question what is on the novels? No. Quote:
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2014-04-24, 11:34 | Link #2218 | ||
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Well, it did stop him from killing them. So yeah, it in fact did stop him.
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Yes it does, because he never did it or was implied to be capable of doing that to something like meltdowner. How, so?
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Trying to counter/post anything I post.
I if feel like answering I will do so, when Doom Paper does, I do, when Level7 does, I do. When you do... it feels like I'm getting into a pointles discussion with no constructive purpose. So I'll play the "Dealt it with" trap card and just agree to disagree . It's not fun discuss with you now. Quote:
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